Author Topic: Half Life 2 on the N5!! (Read 8518 times)

Bishman · « **on:** September 01, 2003, 10:40:17 AM »

Vossey.com : Will Half-Life 2 be released on other platforms?

DL : Yes, notably on Xbox. The game will be available on Xbox but not until 2004. The partnership with Microsoft isn’t exclusive and we will also see this game on the next consoles by Sony and Nintendo.

What is Nintendo doing these days. They are getting so many big name titles over for the GC and N5. Wow, I'm am really glad that Nintendo is being agrresive and get some big name titles.

BF1942 and HL2 = Ownage.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2003, 10:51:12 AM »

If thisi s true, it makes me an extremely happy man.

My computer's WAY too crappy to run anything remotely close to Half Life 2.

The Omen · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2003, 11:59:58 AM »

In a way, i'm ecstatic that Nintendo seems to be securing all kinds of games for the 'N5'. In another way, i'm a little concerned to see that the GC's lifespan is about 12 more months. But they seem to be getting it right this time by being aggressive so early on.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2003, 12:07:22 PM »

If its on PS3 and N5 why even bother with the xbox version. Those systems will apparently sport some massive power that the box cannot compare with. And no mention of MS's next system or why its not on that system instead of xbox. Maybe there will only be 2 systems next gen afterall. With the extra power of next gen consoles they might improve the game over the pc version. This could just mean that the X2 won't be out till 06 while the others will be out in 05.

kennyb27 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2003, 01:59:18 PM »

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If its on PS3 and N5 why even bother with the xbox version.

Because a gaming company is in the business for money, and they will make money on an Xbox version. Pretty simple idea.

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2003, 02:36:40 PM »

I'm getting HL 2 for the computer, what it is made for and what it will run best on.

FPS's aren't great at all on consoles. The only thing FPS's are good for is multiplayer on consoles, IMO.

Mannypon · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2003, 02:59:05 PM »

fps are great on consoles, not as great as on pcs though but I wouldnt go so far as to say they arent great. Ive had ma share of sleepless nights with goldeneye back in the days and perfect dark, halo has been the only recent fps thats really been above the norm and somethin special like goldeneye was, on consoles.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2003, 03:03:49 PM »

It depends- PC FPS's play differently than console FPS's. Doom wouldn't work on a conole, and likewise Goldeneye wouldn't work on a PC. If the time is taken to accuratley port the game, though, it doesn't matter what platform it's on. Look at Halo- it started off as a computer FPS and then made the transition into a console FPS, and in my opinion Bungie handled it beautifully. If Valve wants to, they can make Half Life 2 play just as good on a console as on a PC.

mattcube · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2003, 04:34:15 PM »

No good FPS on consoles?! Goldeneye *cough* Halo *cough* Perfect Dark *cough* TimeSplitters 2 *end of cough*

I must agree with mouse_clicker, PC FPS and console FPS are way different in terms of gameplay mechanics. But the way keyboards and mouse accessories are becoming needed more on consoles, I wouldn't be suprised if they're standard on N5 and PS3.

kennyb27 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2003, 04:48:16 PM »

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But the way keyboards and mouse accessories are becoming needed more on consoles, I wouldn't be suprised if they're standard on N5 and PS3.

I understand what you are saying but I seriously hope the developers wouldn't go this far. I've always been a firm believer that home gaming consoles stay as consoles and computers stay as computers--one reason that I believe online gaming should stay with computers. But that's another topic for another day...

Mannypon · « **Reply #10 on:** September 01, 2003, 05:14:06 PM »

I feel you there kennyb, the reason I play consoles moreso than pc is for that console feel. Ima always feel more comfertable with a console controller than a keyboard, but thats just me.

BrianSLA · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2003, 11:07:54 PM »

>> If its on PS3 and N5 why even bother with the xbox version. <<

Probably because UNLIKE the PS3 and N5, Half Life 2 will be on Xbox THIS generation and it will look pretty close to the PC version. And it's ship date is early 04'..... whereas the possible Sony and Nintendo versions won't be out until next generation. Ages.

>>Those systems will apparently sport some massive power that the box cannot compare with. <<

Well yes if you compare this generation's Xbox with NEXT generation's PS3 & N5...... yeah I really would hope for Sony & Nintendo's sake that they blow away a generation older console by then.

>>And no mention of MS's next system or why its not on that system instead of xbox. <<

Why no mention? Because it will be on THIS generation's console. The Xbox can handle HL2 now.

>> Maybe there will only be 2 systems next gen afterall. With the extra power of next gen consoles they might improve the game over the pc version. This could just mean that the X2 won't be out till 06 while the others will be out in 05<<

If there is only 2 consoles, it will be Sony and Microsoft. BUT no all three will have consoles and all will launch near simultaneously. All 3 consoles makers have said so.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #12 on:** September 02, 2003, 03:28:03 AM »

Any system can handle Half Life 2 now- the XBox is only marginally more powerful, if that (there's strong evidence that the Gamecube is actually the marginally more powerful one), so why should a game that doesn't even use it's hard drive be impossible on the PS2 and Gamecube? My guess is MS has a timed exclusivity deal, like they've had so many times before.

Uglydot · « **Reply #13 on:** September 02, 2003, 08:20:22 AM »

Half-life 2 isn't Doom 3. The game isn't that much of a beast to run. Whoever pays more or gets the better deal gets it faster/at all. It's just like any other game out there.

BrianSLA · « **Reply #14 on:** September 02, 2003, 11:34:34 AM »

It isn't a timed exclusive deal....... this post already says psTHREE and Nintendo FIVE. That isn't timed exclusive but saying the game will appear on Sony and Nintendo's NEXT generation, not this one. As for DOOM 3, John Carmack SAID that the Xbox is the only console that it is possible on.
I am not trying to get in some Fanboy war, but I find it sad that someone is hyped about a game that will come out NEXT generation.... MANY years away. Seriously I think almost everyone will probably upgrade their PCs by then... assuming you have an old PC now like I do ( if you don't have an old PC you will probably run HL2 NOW as it only needs a P3 700mghz PC to run on low ) ...... many many years later, you will probably have enough dough to buy even a cheapo PC which by that time will be able to run HL2 / Doom 3 by then. My PC is an old hunk of junk ( P3 , 500mghz), I am currently waiting till around December to upgrade to a Power Game rig ( probable Alienware ). It is sad to be excited about a game that will be 2 years old by then. It is like getting excited that GTA3 will be on N5! BUT in addition this post went on to rag on Xbox but the Xbox will be the only console to get HL2 and Doom 3... and then basically says the Xbox is a weak console ( whereas the PS2 and NGC won't be getting either / running either ). I was just debating the post.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #15 on:** September 02, 2003, 11:36:14 AM »

Why is Doom 3 only possible on the XBox?

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #16 on:** September 02, 2003, 04:03:22 PM »

HL 2 needs like half the power to run. I don't know how Half-Life did it, but it will run on some of the older comps. My comp is a P4 1.6, Geforce 4 MX, 512 DDR and I'm pretty sure it'll run smooth. Maybe not maximum, but I can't run most of the newer games at maximum without lag. Doom 3 on the other hand needs a lot of power to pack. I got a ripped Doom III version demo (cough*Don't ask me how or where*cough) and it was freaking laggish on my computer. Although I think it had a little to do with being a demo, but I could definitely tell my ocmp was nothing for it.

About HL 2 and Doom III on X-Box. They will look great, but not nearly as great as their PC counterparts. Just like Star wars KOTR, they are beefing up the graphics for the PC version. they'll just lower the power needed for the X-box versions.

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #17 on:** September 02, 2003, 04:42:05 PM »

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Originally posted by: Manny
fps are great on consoles, not as great as on pcs though but I wouldnt go so far as to say they arent great. Ive had ma share of sleepless nights with goldeneye back in the days and perfect dark, halo has been the only recent fps thats really been above the norm and somethin special like goldeneye was, on consoles.

I really can't quite agree with that. As someone who spent a lot of time gaming on both consoles and PCs I'd have to say that PC FPS are generally better. In general control is much sharper with a mouse than with a keyboard. For example, I don't know how many ex-dreamcast players there are here, but when PC users were able to hack into DC Quake III servers, DC players were getting slaughtered.

Regardless, to get HL2 looking awesome, it's probably better to just play it on the PC. The XBox version will no doubt be slightly stripped down from the PC version. Then again if you don't have a killer PC or just a middle of the road one, then maybe the XBox would be a good choice for HL2.

As for me I'm definately going the PC route. P4 3ghz, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (256), 1 Gig PC3200 DDR Ram... oh yes, it shall be sweet.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #18 on:** September 02, 2003, 04:59:19 PM »

Hope you've got the pretty penny it's going to csot you to get that juggernaut, sirmorphix.

BrianSLA · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2003, 09:30:17 AM »

>> Why is Doom 3 only possible on the XBox? <<

John Carmack, the creator of DOOM 3, said so. I am not a technie but when the creator says the Xbox is the only console that DOOM 3 is possible on / he knows DOOM 3's tech specs, I'll take him on his word.

>> P4 3ghz, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (256), 1 Gig PC3200 DDR Ram... oh yes, it shall be sweet. <<

Yeah that is is a sweet rig ya got. I am tempted to go upgrade right now just for HL2 but I can wait awhile longer to get more bang for my buck / I am hoping for a 3.4 or 3.5 Ghz rig by December ..... better than current 3.2ghz. Or at the very least it will be cheaper.

Cap · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2003, 10:24:04 AM »

i'm extremely doubtful about the claim that doom3 can only be done on xbox. i think the only reason that its been said is becouse John Carmack makes pc games, not console games(at least not that i'm aware of). he has no experience with the gamecube hardware, while the xbox is more or less the same as developing for the pc as i understand it. i'm also pretty sure that ms would be willing to pay to bring doom3 to the xbox, so that could be a factor as well.

of course, i could be completely wrong. i dont really know the individual strengths and weakness' of the systems, so maybe the xbox is better suited for doom3. i just have a hard time believing a claim from someone who has never done a single thing on the hardware. everthing i've seen shows that the gc and xbox are relatively close in terms of power, with certain developers being able to get amazing results out of either one.

Kyosho · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2003, 03:21:46 PM »

Yeah cap, it's probably cuz it's easier to make it for Xbox. Programming is basically the same as for PC... Sony/Nintendo is rather hard to program for. I heard Sony is the worst of the three though. If Carmack was to do it for this generation, PS2 no chance in hell would be able to handle it. Nintendo is a *maybe*. I say maybe because it uses ATI chip and i think it's a generation under the 9700.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2003, 03:39:53 PM »

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John Carmack, the creator of DOOM 3, said so. I am not a technie but when the creator says the Xbox is the only console that DOOM 3 is possible on / he knows DOOM 3's tech specs, I'll take him on his word.

"John Carmack said so" isn't good enough for me- I want the hardcore technical explanation of exactly why Doom 3 is possible only on the XBox and no other console.

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:39:21 PM »

Maybe he meant it in a way that Doom III could run on Gamecube, but it would have to be tweaked a lot to perform on Gamecube.

I doubt he would've imagined that fanboys would be on his ass for stating that. Otherwise, I think he would've said something more subtle.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2003, 04:44:37 PM »

I just really don't see why it could only be possible on the XBox and not on the Gamecube, since the Gamecube can do anything the XBox can do. Even Factor 5 said Rogue Leader could run on the PS2 just as well, although it would need some tweaking, and the difference between the PS2 and Gamecube is much larger than the difference between the Gamecube and Xbox (if one exists at all).

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