Author Topic: M$ and Nintendo? (Read 17438 times)

Perfect Cell · « **on:** August 28, 2003, 06:52:39 AM »

Here we go again.... Here Its in french though.... It says Nintendo and Microsoft will work together in the next console...

rpglover · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2003, 07:07:10 AM »

this is just wishful thinking on the part of the people who wrote this rumor
i dont think that nintendo would partner with microsoft anyway- it is just coincidence that now both microsoft and nintendo have ATI designing their graphics chips- there will be 3 systems in this next "console war" and it will include nintendo, microsoft, and sony- i can not see nintendo partnering up with another company to make a console with them in the near future

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2003, 07:13:42 AM »

Its not simply wishfull thinking. Ive read this before in mnay places including IGN.... Im hoping Rick or some of the PGC crew could shed some insider info on this

d_bomb_23 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2003, 07:29:57 AM »

I think this would be a very good move for both sides
they would own console market,sony couldnt even contest if this happened

Michael8983 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2003, 07:42:22 AM »

"Its not simply wishfull thinking. Ive read this before in mnay places including IGN...."

So what?
There have been tons of crazy rumors that have been widely circulated that turned out to be completely bogus.
This whole MS/Nintendo thing is as ridiculous as those reports of Starfox Adventures being moved to the PS2 last year.
The most I can see is Nintendo and MS agreeing to have similar architecture so developers can easily develope games on both consoles together.
That would be mutually beneficial and most importantly would help the fight against Sony.

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2003, 07:54:56 AM »

This is a rumor that's been reported on sites every where. It doesn't make the rumor any more true if it is though. I could start a rumor about Sony quitting theconsole business for the hell of it, and if everyone started reporting this it would not make it true. It would still be bogus.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2003, 07:59:28 AM »

CAN WE STOP WITH "M$" CRAP ALREADY!!!

It would benifit both parties, deal with it.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2003, 08:00:02 AM »

Why? Nintendo has nothing to gain from that partnership.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2003, 08:12:12 AM »

Nintendo has plenty to gain from a partnership.
You have to remember that MS is in its first year as a console maker and already has a tie in market share with the long time giant Nintendo. MS has captured a large portion of the US (teen/adult) market with the X-box while NIN no doubt has a loyal following and owns the youth market.

The two companies joining together would surely give Sony a run in the next wave of the console war, while separately they dont have a chance.

MS also has huge ties with the PC sector, which would mean this new console (if it happens) would get the best in PC style games, shooters, and all of the NIN games which everyone here likes. The joining of the 2 would also attract a huge amount of 3rd party support in all genres.

IMO there are many things that one could say have been clues to this:

- the RARE deal
- the ATI chip talks
- the fact that both console makers havent been able to touch Sony apart, in fact all they have done is split the non Sony market, a problem that neother company can ignore.

The only question I have is, can two very diffenrt companies from two very differant cultures get along well enough to make this happen?

joshnickerson · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2003, 08:28:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck

The only question I have is, can two very diffenrt companies from two very differant cultures get along well enough to make this happen?

Cue the "Odd Couple" theme song!

Seriously, don't we hear about this rumor every week? I am so sick of it. It's right up there with Nintendo buying Sega.

Michael8983 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2003, 08:50:40 AM »

Not only would this partnership allow Nintendo to get rid of a lot of those pesky profits but, even better, Nintendo would get a shiny, new knife RIGHT IN THE BACK the moment MS saw the oppurtunity

Nintendo is making a lot of money in the console market.
MS has lost a TON of money in the console market.
Iwata recently reaffirmed that Nintendo is a profit-driven company.
Seems pretty clear to me why no one should take this rumor seriously.

I'm really starting to think Nintendo fans will believe ANYTHING no matter how ridiculous it is as long as it leads to the possibility of defeating Sony. There was this INSANE rumor last year about Nintendo finding a way to sue Sony and steal the Playstation brandname along with all the profits made off of it. It was a part of the "megaton" thing and was reported on several sites. AND PEOPLE BELIEVED IT!!!!!!
LOTS OF PEOPLE!!!!!!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!!!!!

Actually, come to think of it, I heard this rumor that Nintendo's next console will be made of God himself and only people who buy it will go to heaven! Sony is dead!

The Omen · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:23:44 AM »

Say what you will, but a Sony/NIN partnership would make so much more sense. M$ sucks in Japan, and while joining with NIN might help them, it wouldn't help NIN, who already is well entrenched in Japan. If they partner with Sony, you have a massive user base pre-installed, along with the Nintendo loyalists, and there you have the unstoppable force which would be huge here in the USA and huge in Japan, all over the world, in fact. It would be a super machine. That said, i dont see either one happening.

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:28:35 AM »

This rumour is so false it hurts. According to that article they are "close" to inking a deal. Nintendo has been developing their GC succesor probably before the GC even appeared on shelf stores. If MS and the big N inked a deal now, they'd be starting development of a console about 1 and half years before the next generation is expected? Not likely. What's more likely is that websites run lame rumours like these one's all the time and feverent Nintendo fans eat up rumours and hype them up beyond belief.

We Nintendo fans seem to hype anything up and try to justify believing anything.

"No no, it must be true, because 15 french and russian websites said so, and I heard that Jesus was planning on developing a new game console with MS too! I hear he's calling it the Megaton!"

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:44:07 AM »

Mark my words, it'll either be the biggest console in the next generation or the smallest.

NintendoFanGirl · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:55:40 AM »

I'll give up gaming before I give any more of my $$ to M$.

NintendoFanGirl · « **Reply #15 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:58:20 AM »

Double Post.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #16 on:** August 28, 2003, 10:05:54 AM »

PLEASE, stop with M$ garbage, it makes your point look childish and blatently baised.

Also, stop looking at this from a Nintendo fan point of view, and look at it from a business stand point, and you will see it makes a lot of sense.

Yes, NIN is making money on consoles still, but the numbers have gone down with each of the last two consoles and will continue to drop without adding to their fanbase. In short they will eventually stop making money on consoles if Sony isnt fought a little better and MS keeps gaining more ground. Remeber that MS has lots of money, I know NIN does to, but they dont have enough to fight MS head to head, not even close.

When you look at this from a business point of view it does help NIN, it does help MS, and it would hurt Sony in the long run.

Remember, none of you believed the RARE rumor either.

Cap · « **Reply #17 on:** August 28, 2003, 10:30:07 AM »

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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
Remeber that MS has lots of money, I know NIN does to, but they dont have enough to fight MS head to head, not even close.

When you look at this from a business point of view it does help NIN, it does help MS, and it would hurt Sony in the long run.
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buy you are going on the assumption that ms would be willing to lose over 6 billion dollars to compete, and i really dont see them going that far. dont get me wrong, their large pile of money is definately an asset, but sooner or later they will actually have to make some money as well.

i dont doubt that a partnership COULD benifit both companies, i just think they would have a very hard time coming to terms on an agreement. they both seem to want very different things from the video game market. really though, the only thing i would see happening in the long run is that nintendo would eventually end up being taken over by ms.

Mannypon · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2003, 10:50:17 AM »

I dont know if this will happen but I can see some sence in it. If you really look at the idea of the both teaming up you can see that both can really gain alot in doin so, it'll practically fix both of their probs. Microsoft will finally break ground in japan which we all know they never will do without the help of a japanese company (in this case Nintendo) and Nintendo will be able to get rid of that kiddie image thats really doin them alot of damage weather anyone wants to admit it or not and it'll give nintendo a clear advantage in online gaming since xbox live is by far the best online gaming network for consoles. Them 2 teaming up doesnt mean that either one of them will own a part of the other, for all we know this could be a temperary thing till the market is more balanced unlike the sony monopoly it is now. I dont know, I'm a nintendo fanboy and always have been and I wouldnt be upset if I were to hear of this colab turnin out to be true. Nintendo is a smart company and if a deal is made, I highly doubt they'll give microsoft any type of leverage over them. Besides, it'll be good to have the best of both worlds, microsoft fanboys will finally get a taste for nintendo games and maybe in doin so nintendo will gain some more hardcore followers because its bein exposed to a larger audience, and that audience wont be shunned by the average gamer who sees the gamecube and nintendo in general to be too childish. It'll also introduce nintendo fanboys to a different type of gaming, basically online fps(HALO 2), mmorpgs and unique rpgs such as KOTOR and FABLE. Just think bout it, Nintendo has been doin alot of colabs lately with their games, fzero to sega, star fox to namco along with donky kong(a), lettin capcom do zelda for gba, retro doin metroid. If that trend keeps up, who's to say they cant do a colab with a console for one generation. There have been alot of suprises the these current generations of consoles, we'll see what happens.

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2003, 11:10:58 AM »

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Remember, none of you believed the RARE rumor either.

Remeber, tonnes of you believed "Megaton" too.

Uglydot · « **Reply #20 on:** August 28, 2003, 12:15:52 PM »

It is a rediculous rumor, some are going to believe it because they want to. Others are going to argue the same solid points over and over. And if you are going to argue about it, learn where the friggin s key is, the $ should be a banned character, so painful on the eyes.

The Omen · « **Reply #21 on:** August 28, 2003, 01:10:51 PM »

Sony/Nintendo makes much more sense. MS and Sony are in the entertainment box do-everything category. Add Nintendo's games, and Sony is unbeatable. Add Nintendo to MS, and Sony still comes out on top. But i think Nintendo wants to make their own console, make the most money, and just let the cards play out. Why change when you're the most profitable of the 3?...and thats when their hardly being accepted by the mainstream. N64 still had numerous huge titles, and a lot of people bought it on name recognition alone. It was very profitable.

In other words, whats their reason to team up with anyone?
They can change the 'kid' image on their own, and have taken steps already. The only other problem i see is advertising, and its changing already, as well.

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #22 on:** August 28, 2003, 01:45:05 PM »

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #23 on:** August 28, 2003, 01:46:22 PM »

Well, If there is some relationship. It could hurt Nintendo more than help. Microsoft DOESNT sell in Japan. Adding Nintendo games WONT change this. Microsoft has Sega and Tecmo and it still doesnt sell consoles. Seccond, Nintendo is still making money, Why would they do this? Why would Iwata say they wont leave the console buisness, and then this? All signs point to no. BUT this keeps getting spread, the last rumor that got this much play was the Rare rumor and look what happened there. About Rare. Why would Nintendo sell Rare, just to then sell out? Why not keep Rare instead? then theres the posibility, that the union, isnt Nintendo selling out to Microsoft, more of a joint venture, where Nintendo keeps its independence..... its possible. But with Gates, probably not. So im stopped. Im hoping the PGC guys have some info on this...

Mannypon · « **Reply #24 on:** August 28, 2003, 02:56:18 PM »

the way I see it, if it does go through, It'll def not give either one leverage over the other. Nintendo isn't stupid, they aren't goin to allow microsoft to have the upper hand in an aggreement. If it happens, it'll prob be a joint venture that'll only last a generation or 2 at the most. Sony/Nintendo does seem like the right pair but it didnt work before for the super nes cd drive and it definitely wont work now that sony has a firm grip on the lead. Sony doesnt need nintendo so it isnt goin to happen thus the microsoft/nintendo seems to be the only one with any possibility of happening. About the kiddy image thing, things are changing but I dont really see the masses even noticing, nintendo's sales are still gettin lower and the image hasnt really changed. About the majority of people believin in the magaton rumor, I know alot of people did but everyone has to remember that the megaton was real, it just wasnt what anyone expected.

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Author Topic: M$ and Nintendo? (Read 17438 times)