Author Topic: Playstation Nintendo 05 (Read 11358 times)

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2003, 03:06:04 PM »

Multiple consoles aren't required for innovation- I don't know where anyone got that idea. The NES had some of the best videogames ever on it and it was pretty much a monopole. The GameBoy holds 99% of the handheld market and there's a plethora of amazing games for it. There's 3 home consoles now, more than there's ever been this long, and a lot of people will tell you innovation is slipping. Truth be told, if there was one standardized console, the competition that would foster innovation would be between the developers themselves. They'd constantly have to compete with their fellow developers of the same genre for who has the best one, and hence which one sells better. 3 consoles has actually inhibitted innovation this generation. Since Sony and Microsoft barely release any games, much less original and innovative ones, 3rd parties have barely anyone to compete with. Since 3rd-parties don't get good sales on the Gamecube due to the fact any smart Gamecube owner would buy Nintendo's superb titles over a crappy 3rd-party game (these superb 1st-party titles don't exist as much on the PS2 and XBox leaving a bigger market for 3rd-parties), 3rd-parties flock to the PS2 and XBox. It's easier to sell a bad game to a bunch of people who don't know the difference, or more likely have no choice, than to people who do know the difference and do have a choice. And since there's 2 more consoles on which crappy 3rd-parties can release their crappy games, they're more spread out and don't compete with eachother as much. A version of your game already on the PS2? Release it on the XBox and get just as good sales. If there was one standardized console, at the most two, all the crappy 3rd and 1st-parties would be stuck with all the good 3rd and 1st-parties and force to innovate in order to stay in the game. Nintendo and Sega benefited heavily from competition during the SNES/Genesis generation and their quality shows, but when 3rd-parties find they can't compete with such quality, they flock to a place where that quality doesn't exist.

Pale · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2003, 09:10:22 PM »

You're right mouse_clicker, thats why we just have to hope that Capcom, Namco, and others continue to try and challenge Ninty's first part titles..... =)

Celebi · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2003, 10:30:58 PM »

Nintendo has halt Gamecube productions.This is an early sign of....

PIAC · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2003, 11:43:04 PM »

this is an early sign of having too much stock onboard, that is all, when the current stock is cleared out they will reopen production, i think xbawx stopped production for a wee bit aswell.

Celebi · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2003, 11:57:43 PM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3134651.stm

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11039
"ATI severed contacts with Nintendo earlier this year"

http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/949543.asp?0dm=c21bt&cp1=1
-Satoru Iwata promised the struggling games company was developing a radical new product to be announced next year
-He gave few details save to say it would be a departure from mainstream gaming consoles “that will have a big impact on the world”.
-Mr Iwata declined to provide any more details about what kind of new product Nintendo is working on, saying only that the company would make a further announcement with details next spring

KDR_11k · « **Reply #30 on:** August 19, 2003, 07:31:38 AM »

From the few data we have about that "new and innovative" announcement, it could just as well be a weapon large enough to blow up the entire planet. That "departure from mainstream gaming consoles" bit appeared on MSNBC only, I guess that's one of those details they "figured out themselves" (like they figured out where Iraq's WMDs were...).

The Omen · « **Reply #31 on:** August 19, 2003, 01:03:20 PM »

Being into conspiracy theories, i instantly thought..hmmmmm...but now after thinking about it, i'd have to say no. Although it would make sense to merge with the Playstation name, and not M$. It would ensure Japan domination...and the Playstation kicks ass in the U.S., so it would be a big hit here. The only problem with this idea is ....you know what? I dont have a major problem if they collaborate. In fact, i've convinced myself ! Nintendo Playstation for x-mas!

ThePerm · « **Reply #32 on:** August 19, 2003, 01:51:18 PM »

god wtf is up with the industry...everyone is just hoping someone dies...its sick.
When did the industry become a pit of aligators?

Berny · « **Reply #33 on:** August 19, 2003, 04:08:19 PM »

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Originally posted by: ThePerm

When did the industry become a pit of aligators?

When The Crocodile Hunter went mad and started eating them.

They had to go somewhere.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #34 on:** August 19, 2003, 06:18:31 PM »

Welcome to business. It's full of Aligators. For all you know I could be sitting here waiting for you to die so I can eat you.

But here is the thing about monopolies it both encourages and discourages inovations. And there is a point when the free market collapses because of all the me to companies that drown out inovation.

Accually their is a lot to be said in defense of having a monopoly in control of an industry, one is price to consumer its accually lower in a monopoly setting.

Celebi · « **Reply #35 on:** August 19, 2003, 10:14:58 PM »

Microsoft has always been making lotsa money from their pc softwares.They will never die if they quit the console business.But if its the other two,Nintendo or Sony if they were to fail,they would take a rather big hit and probably close doors forever.The global console market today will not be even as half as large as today.

BigJim · « **Reply #36 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:31:36 PM »

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Accually their is a lot to be said in defense of having a monopoly in control of an industry, one is price to consumer its accually lower in a monopoly setting.

You must be the first source I have ever heard that from.

Pale · « **Reply #37 on:** August 20, 2003, 08:10:40 AM »

Yeah, blkpaladin, what crack are you smoking?? Consoles are the cheapest they've been in years.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #38 on:** August 20, 2003, 09:21:56 AM »

pale: Well, I got my SNES for 300DM (about EUR150) back then with Super Mario World and the Super Game Boy... The GC costs EUR200 with one game.

Uglydot · « **Reply #39 on:** August 23, 2003, 10:57:58 AM »

Sony is a MASSIVE company, they aren't going anywhere. Nintendo rakes in money, they aren't going anywhere.

PaleZero...neat case, though those are expensive, I have a hatred for that keyboard, however. :-)

Pale · « **Reply #40 on:** August 23, 2003, 01:40:08 PM »

Heh, the keyboard is an "Mine broke and I was broke, so i needed something easy to obtain and cheap" keyboard.

I wasn't broke when I get the case however....
it was kind of frivilous(sp?) spending. I did the window mod myself. I think it came out pretty good. Could be a little better though.

JSasky · « **Reply #41 on:** August 25, 2003, 06:59:48 PM »

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this is an early sign of having too much stock onboard, that is all, when the current stock is cleared out they will reopen production, i think xbawx stopped production for a wee bit aswell.

It means that they didnt' sell as many units as they thought they were going too. Oh well, I am optimistic that this could be one of Nintendo's biggest Xmas coming up. Man do they ever have a lot of sweet ass games coming out if the current line up of games coming out can't sell systems, then I dont what will.

As for the consiparacy theory, I totally believe it. Then again I also believe that there is a secret alien group called the greys building a human camp on Mars where only the elite and influeintial will be able to live. Well the rest of us wallow and die in catastrophic enviromental world events.

PIAC · « **Reply #42 on:** August 25, 2003, 08:52:04 PM »

not that again! *shakes fists towards the skies*

and yes, i also belive that nintendo has this quater covered, in all regions. some big rpg's coming for japan, and harvest moon, soul calibur, f-zero gx, veiwtiful joe, mario kart DD, mario golf for australia/europe etc

something for everyone! but.. not enough money -__-

norebonomis · « **Reply #43 on:** August 28, 2003, 04:09:40 PM »

a few thoughts on the innovations being limited by three different consoles, i agree, the gaming industry needs to set some standards, games should be able to play on any console, like i can install linux on a dell or a gateway or a mac. it would be better for the consumer, which i know, is never really priority for microshaft so?ny or ninty. it seems like these companies are getting to aggressive in the console wars, get over it say i, give the gamers what they want!

The Omen · « **Reply #44 on:** August 28, 2003, 06:22:56 PM »

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As for the consiparacy theory, I totally believe it. Then again I also believe that there is a secret alien group called the greys building a human camp on Mars where only the elite and influeintial will be able to live. Well the rest of us wallow and die in catastrophic enviromental world events.

Thats a conspiracy theory? I thought that was common knowledge! Its called 'alternative 3' which.....nevermind

Anyway, the GC has the best lineup for a Nintendo system since the SNES. This holiday season is going to be expensive...

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Author Topic: Playstation Nintendo 05 (Read 11358 times)