Author Topic: Will Nintendo EVER go online? (Read 7855 times)

theRPGFreak · « **on:** July 30, 2003, 08:24:47 PM »

One thing that I was intrested in when I bought the Nintnedo GameCube, was for online gaming. Besides PSO, I was hoping for online versions of Mario Kart, Mario Party, Star Fox, F Zero, Super Snash Bros, and many more. However, when ever Nintendo is asked about online gaming, they change the subject to connectivity type games. Personally, I think that the games I have seen so far that use connectivity keep me amused for about 5 minutes. Sure, I had fun with animal island for a few days to make some bells, but now I just really dont care about it anymnore. This makes me want to know if online gaming is even a possibility in Nintendo's next-gen system.

nathan · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2003, 08:39:53 PM »

"Suppossing two swallows carried it . . . " haha, guess thats another story

I dont think nintendo will ever go online simply because of their stubborness to accept the inevitable . . . what the masses want. in this case, I think I can safely say every nintendo gamer wants online games on their fav console. nintendo will never, ever have the upper hand on the video game market if they keep up this marketing strategy. innovation sounds great on paper, but I cannot name one person who likes metroid prime, star fox, or the cel-shaded zelda--aside from the people on the internet--and I cant really name that many that like any of nintendos first party titles. therefore, I hope nintendo actually does NOT go online because they really wont last that long if you think about it.

ok, start flaming me now. thats ok cause im never gonna look at this thread again

PIAC · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2003, 08:45:39 PM »

you smell..
1) im a nintendo fan, and i dont really want cube online, i dont not want it online, i just dont really care if it is or isn't
2) i know lots of people who love metroid/zelda
3) i liek pie!

Mario · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2003, 08:49:55 PM »

mmmmm, pie

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but I cannot name one person who likes metroid prime, star fox, or the cel-shaded zelda--aside from the people on the internet--and I cant really name that many that like any of nintendos first party titles.

Nintendo first part games sell millions and get incredible reviews. You smell...

PIAC · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2003, 08:59:57 PM »

and GOTY ofcourse

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2003, 11:23:36 PM »

"Where'd you get the coconuts?"

DRJ · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2003, 04:10:10 AM »

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but I cannot name one person who likes metroid prime, star fox, or the cel-shaded zelda--aside from the people on the internet--and I cant really name that many that like any of nintendos first party titles.

O my god, what the hell are you smoking. You just named my top two games (MP and WW). Anyone who doesnt know that Nintendo is the best game developer is completely wacked out of their mind. Nintendo may not have the best sales department, or pr, Their consoles may not be the best, but their games are definately top notch.

If you dont like MP or WW it is either because you dont like games without lots of blood and gore, or you just havnt played them, because it only takes a few minutes to get hooked.

cubedcinder128 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2003, 06:58:27 AM »

Getting back on topic...

Probably not this generation, though I'm sure Nintendo will have some form of online connectivity for their next system. At least I'm glad Nintendo isn't rushing into this form of gaming like the others are. Because the sad thing is that I still don't have a broadband connection, nor is one offered in my area.

Round Eye · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2003, 07:04:27 AM »

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Originally posted by: DRJ<br Their consoles may not be the best, but their games are definately top notch.

Why, what is wrong with the GC?

Anyways...

Nintendo will be online early Q4. They cannot be the only console in the next battle with out a working online strategy. And it would make sense to have one up and running on the cube before then just to make sure the kinks are worked out. So that is what they are going to do. I know it, it will happen. Take it to the bank, put it into an envelope for deposit, lick it, close it up, put it in the machine. Get ready to make a withdrawl early Q4.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:36:39 AM »

Nintendo is coming out with online, hense they will have about one or two titles for it, since add ons that Nintendo itself comes out with and puts money into they usally make a quick game or two to try and recoup the cost. And their further support of it depends on how well the first game(s) are recieved.

misternull · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:45:18 AM »

i just hope they avoid that whole online subscription crap. when dreamcast started, you just got online with whatever service provider you wanted. the game companies ran the servers (like chuchu) and the players didn't have to pay another dime past buying the game. i can understand pso needing a subscription, but i really don't want to see a repeat of this 'x-box live' buisness.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2003, 09:17:36 AM »

I think a potential reason that Nintendo has been so hesitant with online gaming is because they're control freaks. They've always liked doing things their own way so that they have complete control over their console. That's why everything for Nintendo consoles from the Gamecube discs to the connection cables are all proprietary. If everything on their console is designed by them then they get money for any third party hardware. With the internet Nintendo can't control everything. They don't own the internet for example and they don't own the ISPs that people use. Therefore there's less control over the situation. This GBA connectivity stuff is much better in Nintendo's eyes because they have complete control and ownership over it. They make the GBAs and Gamecubes and they make the cables that link them together.

Now will Nintendo ever go online? Well since they actually made a modem for the Gamecube I assume they'll do the same with their next console so at the very least we might get one or two third party online games for sure. As for Nintendo themselves we'll have to wait and see. I think that if they ignore it long enough they'll eventually be forced to go with it like when they finally ditched cartridges. I'm hoping that they actually do have something big up their sleeves that will change online gaming as we know it forever. If they don't then they really are too stubborn and everything they've said so far about online gaming amounts to "we don't want to do it so we won't".

DRJ · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2003, 10:03:16 AM »

I think Nintendo will be stuck on the Lan idea for a while. Gamspy is working with them to make it easy for games to connect via Lan. So long as it is free I dont care. Online is a nice feature, but I dont think there are enough people willing to pay monthly fees for it to be prifitable. If you really want online games, you cane beat using a PC.

Raijin Z · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:11:04 PM »

http://cubeonline.gamefarmer.com/

Aside from that, a Japanese group has gotten Kirby's Air Ride to play at 60fps online.

Polyethylene · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2003, 05:30:00 PM »

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Originally posted by: Raijin Z
http://cubeonline.gamefarmer.com/

Aside from that, a Japanese group has gotten Kirby's Air Ride to play at 60fps online.

I read that they just have gotten Kirby's Air Ride to play at 3fps online not 60fps.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2003, 07:30:35 PM »

I don't care if Gamecube goes online or not.
Nintendo is making an online system whereby we won't have to pay any fees of any sort, except for buying the game and the modem, so n the end, it is Nintendo AND the gamers that benefit from online gameplay on Nintendo's system (GCN or GC2).

And what if Nintendo DID release online games for Gamecube late this year or early next year? What assurances are there that it will make ANY sort of profit? If MS and Sony don't have that many numbers, then what chance in hell does Nintendo have online with the basically non existent mainstream userbase? Of course there are us hardcore NIntendo lovers, but then again, there aren't many of us at all.

Now I'm not sure about this, but can MS and Sony's next consoles use the existing LIVE and Online services to play online, or will there need to be a whole new infrastructure created just for those consoles?
Nintendo is better off introducing their own Online service right off the bat of the launch of the new console, rather than introducing it so late in the Gamecube's life.
3rd party Games are also another issue for the Gamecube, which is another reason why Nintendo should start online next generation.

theRPGFreak · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2003, 07:36:00 PM »

I hate the LAN idea! It only works in the arcades and for rich people! Is anyone on this posty going to have another 3 other friends that have the same game, 3 broadband adaptors, and 3 TVs all under the same roof! This is one of the games that I wish that they would just simply put ONLINE.

joeamis · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2003, 07:46:46 PM »

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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
I don't care if Gamecube goes online or not.
Nintendo is better off introducing their own Online service right off the bat of the launch of the new console, rather than introducing it so late in the Gamecube's life.
3rd party Games are also another issue for the Gamecube, which is another reason why Nintendo should start online next generation.

why are all the australian gamers not interested in online gaming?
what is the deal there with online gaming, does it exist much at all?

you're right about introducing an online campaign for Nintendo right off the bat with NES5, instead of releasing it late in GC life, that would make very good business sense.

on a side note, i read like 3 months ago that gamespy will have gamecube running online by 1st q 2004 at the LATEST, so i expect gamecube online (through gamespy only) around this xmas time.

(don't flame me for calling the next nintendo nes5, as it is now the prototype name being used by industry insiders)

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:16:17 PM »

Well, the thing with me is that really, i don't care. There's just more money involved, and i have a hard time getting a new game as it is. The game i've got recently is Mario Sunshine, but only cause it was AUS$29, whereas new games cost around AUS$99.
That's why I'm waiting till Nintendo gives us the free online gaming, then i can truly and unregrettably invest in the modem and have a genuinely good time playing online.

That's just me. I don't know about PIAC, Mario, Infernal and the rest.

But there IS a lot of online gaming here, but only for PC, and even then i don't like PC Online gaming. CS is too dizzying, and i hate RTSs. I don't think XBox Live is even out here yet (i think it's out here in October).

joeamis · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:28:32 PM »

man, if you don't like starcraft im just at a loss for words.....
(I haven't played many rts games)
but
I love FF Tactics (rts rpg), Tactics Ogre (rts rpg), starcraft (rts), advance wars (rts)

and since FF Tactics is my fav game of all time, it's a no brainer that FF Tactics Advance is my most beloved release of the year (SEPT 9 I CANT WAITTTTTTT *DROOOOOL*)

lisa simpson: what is the english equivalent of Aggggghhh?... Trancendant!
(simpsons homer food critic episode)

now i understand why you personally aren't into online gaming, with games as much as 99 bucks DAMN!
i take for granted getting top notch games for 20-30 bucks, ps2 broadband adapter for 35, and free pc online gaming i guess, gotta love the USA... p.s. move to the USA

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:36:13 PM »

Hahaha. Please! you have to take into account the money exchange rates!
$99 in Australia is only about $45 in the US.
And I'm talking about ALL new games here cost 99 bucks.
99 bucks american would be like 180 bucks here! And that's how much a damn GBA SP costs!

Mario · « **Reply #21 on:** August 01, 2003, 12:01:53 AM »

I want a way to battle my Pokemon online.

And i want it now.

*twitch*

PIAC · « **Reply #22 on:** August 01, 2003, 12:45:13 AM »

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Originally posted by: theRPGFreak
I hate the LAN idea! It only works in the arcades and for rich people! Is anyone on this posty going to have another 3 other friends that have the same game, 3 broadband adaptors, and 3 TVs all under the same roof! This is one of the games that I wish that they would just simply put ONLINE.

its not nearly as hard as you make it out to seem, its not like everyone needs a massive HDTV, a small 51 cm tv would do just fine cube + bbadapter = easy as pie to lug aroung, and mario kart will be a huge game for the cube comnunity, most people with a cube will have it, i like the lan idea, i like it alot!

and speaking of online gaming in australia, yeah its pretty big, as big as anywhere else at any rate, its just i personally seperate my cube from my pc so much i dont even think of it being an online thing, i have games for my PC that i play online, TFC/HLDM/Q3RA etc but my cube is for single player and more personal multiplayer games, thats one of 2 problems with online gaming, 1) its too impersonal, sure you can make fun of people that are losing and such, but then it turns into utter noobery which leads to the second problem 2) the annoying idiots that seem to infest every online gaming server everwhere!

i did have more to write, but the lure of the simpsons is too great, hehehe its the who shot mr burns episodes.

men alive! there are... men... alive in here!

*gets gun* ahhhhhh now THERES the inflated sence of self esteem!

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #23 on:** August 01, 2003, 05:33:45 AM »

man, i went into an internet cafe once, and bloody hell, the amount of insane kids in there yelling and screaming abuse in their headsets was mind boogling!
"Who the f**k shot me?" *kid looks around room, and chucks can at killer*
"What the...? Hey pal, it's only a game, bitch!"
"Well don't f**king shoot me!"
"ARRRGH!!"
*both people vent their anger in CS and start to KILL! KILL! KILL!"*

It's wacko, dude.
I never wanna go in there again.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #24 on:** August 01, 2003, 05:35:48 AM »

Man, i went into an internet cafe once, and bloody hell, the amount of insane kids in there yelling and screaming abuse in their headsets was mind boogling!
"Who the f**k shot me?" *kid looks around room, and chucks can at killer*
"What the...? Hey pal, it's only a game, bitch!"
"Well don't f**king shoot me!"
"ARRRGH!!"
*both people vent their anger in CS and start to KILL! KILL! KILL!"*

It's wacko, dude.
I never wanna go in there again.

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Author Topic: Will Nintendo EVER go online? (Read 7855 times)