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RE: Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2003, 04:18:48 PM »
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2003, 05:25:04 AM »
Best release line-up ever!

1. Super Monkey Ball  NGE  Nokia  5  4.6 65.2% 65.2%
2. Pandemonium  NGE  Nokia  6  2.3 56.7% 56.7%
3. SonicN  NGE  Nokia  6  3.5 50.4% 50.4%
4. Tomb Raider  NGE  Nokia  6  1.2 45.0% 50.0%
5. Puyo Pop  NGE  Nokia  6  1.0 47.9% 47.9%
6. Puzzle Bobble VS  NGE  Nokia  6  4.5 20.3% 20.3%

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Can't understand why anyone would want to buy this. Saw it in the news, and there was massive TWO peoples playing it! And this is Finland, only country where you would think it's even little bit popular. Nokia's PR dude had an good explanation though, It's an adult machice, so everyone who would want to play it was in work. Okay then, I almost thought it was a flop!


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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2003, 05:35:39 AM »
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Nokia's PR dude had an good explanation though, It's an adult machice, so everyone who would want to play it was in work.
Haha.  That is one great explanation.
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2003, 07:58:32 AM »
In Nokia's defense, how can this device be a failure if it has the support of some of the top publishers in the business ? A lot of people are crying about having to remove the battery to change out a game, and while that can be a little cumbersome anyone who can not do it has to be either dense of just plan stupid. I agree it may not be practical to have to remove the battery but the designers of the N-Gage explained why the choose that method and from an engineering stand point it makes sense in some situations. If they would have used an external card slot the N-Gage would have been thicker and it would have weighed a hell of a lot more and nobody wants to carry around a heavy handheld. The N-Gage launch titles are anything but great and come to think of it they are medicore at best. The multiplayer is what is going to sell the N-Gage and N-Gage Arena is already more popular then Nokia have hoped it would be. The casual gamers are going to eat N-Gage up for breakfast and the N-Gage is going to sell well among casual gamers, however on the other hand hardcore gamers are not going to be as willing to even touch the N-Gage. A lot of gamers today are casual gamers and that is just the way that the industry seems to be heading whether hardcore gamers like it or not. I love what Nokia is trying to pull off what an all in one device and I wish them luck with their N-Gage system. I know the N-Gage has it share of problems and the lauch titles for the N-Gage are nothing to smile about, although I feel that Nokia can turn things around. Whether gamers love or hate the N-Gage gamers have to give Nokia credit for trying and like it or not, believe it or not this device will change the industry.  

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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2003, 08:13:23 AM »
N-gage will burn in the fires of the industry, not change it.(LOTR owns)

PSP is the only handheld who has the chance to overthrone GBA, N-gage will be like Gamegear or others.

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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2003, 01:40:57 PM »
The Ngage commercials are stale it just shows a very small clip of footage and a Ngage N going to a nother N with barely any sound. And those game rankings dont look too apatising.

" A lot of people are crying about having to remove the battery to change out a game, and while that can be a little cumbersome anyone who can not do it has to be either dense of just plan stupid."

Its very cumbersom and it gets annoying just to swap a game pack and the SIM card prequistic is just rediculous.


"The N-Gage launch titles are anything but great and come to think of it they are medicore at best."

Why would you buy it then since its just ports and less then mediocre.

"The multiplayer is what is going to sell the N-Gage and N-Gage Arena is already more popular then Nokia have hoped it would be."

I dont hear about people raving about Ngage or the Arena already so if Nokia wanted the popularity of this  swiss army knife of a handheld of about 1,000 or a bit less Nokia has accomplished this.And the 400+ dollars just to start the system off doesnt help Nokia anyway.

"The casual gamers are going to eat N-Gage up for breakfast and the N-Gage is going to sell well among casual gamers, however on the other hand hardcore gamers are not going to be as willing to even touch the N-Gage."

so your saying a casual gamer will buy a 300 dollar Ngage over a 100 dollar GBA SP or 70 dollar GBA then prove it to me, HC gamers can just invest the 300 dollars on games on other consoles that are better than Ngages.


"believe it or not this device will change the industry. "

A Ngage is like a very bad PS2 or Xbox because , PS2 and Xbox already offer more than just as a videogame console but their also a CD player and DVD player in the same package and Ngage is doing the same thing exept in a slightly different way.
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2003, 08:32:58 PM »
Well the N-Gage launch has come and gone and I had a chance to see what it can do courtesy of my local gamestop and co-worker who whips it out (the N-gage that is) when nobody's looking. Here's my verdict:

1) As a gaming system: Right now, it is for a better term 'sucks harder than....[insert lewd reference here]'. Case in Point? I stacked up my Sonic Advance to Sonic N. Sonic N is slooooooowww. That defeats the whole point of a Sonic game. Sound was messed up. Did I mention the chuggy framerate?
 I gave Pandemonium a whirl at my local gamestop: interesting graphics, but again, chuggy frame rate. Its got the potential to do some near PS1 stuff, but so far it chugs like a steam train.
 The controls weren't too bad, as they were comfortable, and had no problem adjusting. Menus were easy to navigate,and it was easy to load up the game. I also found out that you can multi-task, so if you get a call when chugging away at Sonic N, you could pause with no fear of your progess being erased. Now if Sonic weren't reduced to a snail....
 One could say that since these are ports of games that had their native hardware in mind, it could be just a technicality. If Nokia wants to stick around for more than a year, it will have to crank out original content that can doesn't stutter at 20-30 fps.

2) As an all-around cell-phone: Its actually pretty decent. Just don't leave your headset at home, or you'll be known as 'taco head'. It takes calls (duh!), has a decent radio, download ring tones that are high quality (My co-worker told me you can get lyrics to go along with it if you wish.), and can get images. My co-worker showed me everything from surrealist pictures, to NBA logos, to 'naughty' pics. He was unable to show me MP-3's as they required a seperate card that for some reason he was unable to find.

My Verdict: If you want a cell-phone that you don't mind being a little big and want extras, its a decent buy. A gamestop employee has said that doesn't use it for games as much, but it does everything else right. If you were looking for something that will complement your GBA collection, SKIP IT. Save the money, feed your self for a month, feed the homeless, just don't use it on the N-Gage. The Tapwave Zoidiac (or 'High-end Palm that plays high-end games')  isn't that far off, maybe it will put up some stiff competition. The PSP is a year off, so use your imagination there.

While it didn't have the strongest launch (Probably the weakest launch of recent gaming history), hopefully some original content will take advantage of its strengths (Wireless gameplay). Other-wise, the Nokia PR who was trash talking during the summer will have to eat their words, and quit his day job. There's my impressions, thanks for reading this far!

P.S for more N-Gage fun, head on over to Gameinformer.com. Mr.Berghammer has put up his little piece called "N-Gage vs a taco." It will have you craving for some taco supremes!
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RE: Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2003, 09:29:32 AM »
Sold around (less probably) 500 units first week in Britain last week.  Less that Xbox.  Way less that GBA SP, but then again the N Gage isn't competeing against the GBA.  
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2003, 10:29:13 AM »
Well not many try to enter the "sell crap to stupid people" industry...It just turns out that they do...
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2003, 11:36:21 AM »
While N-Gage only sold 500 units so far in the UK keep in mind, N-Gage only sold 500 units through game stores such as EBGames and GameStop. This sales figure excludes mobile phone retailers who usually will sell N-Gage at a reduced cost if the buyer signs a service contract. Therefore, N-Gage sales figures are incomplete at best and should not be judged just on how well it is selling in game stores.  

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RE: Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2003, 07:53:56 PM »
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2003, 08:38:34 PM »
I found out how many N-Gage units my local Software Etc has sold since launch. Total all together.







ZERO.


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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2003, 09:13:41 PM »
the one thats going to get nintendo is sonys handheld
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RE: Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2003, 10:13:31 PM »
nolimit: Nope. The law of Inverse Darwinism* dictates the failure of the PSP!

Grey: That article explains why everybody here was so shocked about the SIM-card requirement...


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RE: Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2003, 01:49:42 AM »
Snes vs Sega was the exception to the rule, but it is the exceptions that prove the rule right?
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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2003, 03:39:01 AM »
400,000 is the # sent out to stores.  Nokia must be taking a page from Sony, refusing to say how many have been sold to consumer instead just giving a # of ho many has been shipped.  Shame on you Nokia.  
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2003, 04:54:25 AM »
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On the N-Gage's lukewarm reception by gamers, Nada Usina, general manager of Nokia Entertainment & Media in North and South America, blamed the media. "The games press is a pretty cynical audience," she said. But Usina admitted some aspects of the console would take getting used to: "It is interesting to see the things that are difficult to get over, things like the removal of the battery."


Blame the media?  Why don't you try blaming *yourself* for making a poor design?!?!?  Man, it must suck to have to be a Nokia apologist.


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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2003, 08:21:32 AM »
KDR: It has nothing to do with power and everything to do with marketability. If the more powerful machine is marketable and the people like it, it will sell better. You can't just make a blanket statement and say that machine A will outsell machine B simply because it's less powerfull.
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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2003, 08:52:37 AM »
I don't really see who their target market is.  They say GBA is for kids, but those kids buy millions of GBAS, not to mention the millions of adults that own it.  All they're doing is pissing off people-kids dont want to be deemed kids, and adults dont want a company telling them theyre playing a kids machine.  I'm certainly not going to say, 'Oh, wait, i'll go get an Ngage, thats for adults!'.  People who own the GBA know better than that Nokia, come on!  Its about games!
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2003, 09:42:38 AM »
mouse_clicker: It's like Murphy's Law, not meant to be absolutely serious and accurate.

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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2003, 09:54:13 AM »
It's funny how Nokia claimed the N-Gage was in direct competition with the GBA, even going as far as to bash Nintendo and the Gameboy, then when the N-Gage has demand that can be likened to that for spam by the cubic, I'm sure Nokia will be staunchly denying that N-Gage was ever meant to compete with the GBA. You guys are finding some funny articles.
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RE: Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2003, 11:02:58 AM »
I think it is very safe to say they did not sell 395,000 units outside the US and the UK.

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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2003, 10:49:00 AM »
Its safe to say Ngage didnt sell 30k
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RE:Official Nokia N-Gage Discussion
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2003, 01:45:03 PM »
Ngage PRICE DROP

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« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2003, 04:58:23 AM »
One PENNY.