Topic: Should Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles really use GBA connectivity??

[kennyb27]

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The GBA should be used to sell GC and GC games rather than using the GC to sell the most successful system on the market. God what are they thinking.

Now you're the one being hypocritical, either that or just lost.  If, or rather since, GBA is the most successful system, then it will be the GBA aspect that will sell systems and games.  And again with it being the most successful system, it wouldn't be hard to find friends with the GBA willing to spend some time on the game with you, now would it?

[nemo_83]

By saying you need to buy four GBAs to play the Cube Nintendo is using the Cube to sale more GBAs.  

[rpglover]

even though the use of the gba's are a little dissapointing, they are needed in order to play the game correctly
the gba shows your menus and you go through them with the r/l buttons and equip magic and stuff to use for the game
it just could not be done all on one singular tv screen unfortunately- i dont mind though
i think the gba thing is interesting and it is worth a look i would think

"if your friends do not own a GBA already, then I think you need to get yourself some new f**king friends."

absolutely- not much else to say there

"I would rather have just bought the game and been able to sit down by myself and play it like Kingdom Hearts. So let me say go to hell one more time. "

somebody is touchy about connectivity
and you can play the game singularly- as michael said its called single player

[vroenis]

it's a great idea, and i'm going to get an SP specifically just for ff: cc - so i have a totally opposite attitude.
the implementation is awesome - an idea the dreamcast started a long time ago - so yeah, i don't currently have a GBA at the moment, but will at the launch of ff: cc!  that will probably start me off buying a whole bunch of GBA games - all in all i'm quite happy with the whole thing.

[Kulock]

Why does everyone think the game would have to pause while one person went through menus? PSO had menus, and it certainly didn't stop and wait whenever someone looked for a spell they don't use often. Small floating menus near the characters, with type icons for easy ID (Ice, Fire, et cetera) that you could crawl with the C-Stick while still running around with the Control Stick. You wouldn't even have to look away from the screen to menu crawl like you do using a GBA.

I mean, if the game works in Single Player mode with just the GCN controller, why can't it work in multiplayer? How does it handle it, DOES it stop the game and stupidly throw up a full-screen menu?

I don't think the GBA functionality should be removed, but I think it should be an option, not a requirement. Purists can play with the GBAs, but there are too many alternate solutions to effectively handle what benefits using a GBA has to require the use of one. No, it may not work with people who have four inch TVs. Those are the people that would need the GBA functionality. Those of us with more reasonably-sized screens should be able to make out four floating text menus with little issue, while still being able to see the action behind and around it. (Semitransparency of the menu background would help a lot, too.)

[PIAC]

its not split screen though, everyone is on the one screen, and if i remember correctly PSO was split screen. by the time this game is out in america, second hand GBA's would be about the same as a new controller, so yeah, get one of those instead if its that big of a deal, that or whine and complain some more, which the vocal minority seem to enjoy most.

[The Omen]

The GBA may be the same price as a controller, but people already have their controllers, so either way it costs you more.

 I'm not a big fan of the idea.  I guess i'm in the minority as none of my buddies has a GBA, and nor do i.  So, i probably wont get it.  I'm not sickened by the idea, but it's not going to get me to buy a GBA.  Sadly, at my age now,  i play games in single player mode.  My friends outgrew games, i guess. (except for the occasional madden all nighters).  Too bad for me.

[mouse_clicker]

You need to stop looking at the GBA as just another controller, though- it IS a gaming machine, and a mighty fine one at that. I don't mind people like Omen here who honestly just don't care enough to go out and get a GBA, but the people out there who act like GBA is just an expensive controller with a screen in it really piss me off.

[The Omen]

Agreed, its not just another controller, but to some people who want to play 4 players CC, and own 4 controllers, and don't really want the GBA's, wont see it that way.

I'm debating whether or not i want the GBA.  I was leaning towards the GBP, because i rarely will get to play anywhere except my house, and if i'm in my house, then its got to be big screen.  But anyway, i see both sides to this argument.  I just have to say suck it up and buy it if you want multiple players, and think of the fun you'll have.

[nemo_83]

I would rather have online than the short cut version.  That is games using LAN networks or GBA linking. Unfortunately that is not a very logical idea financially at the time in console gaming.  So we have to buy excessive amounts of hardware instead.  We the gamers take the bill while Nintendo and Square never have to worry of online services.  Everyone knows this game won't be the same if you play it alone.  If it were online though you would never have a prob finding a friend to play with or need a single GBA.  Next gen why don't they skip the bs and just pack in a next gen GB that doubles as the console controller using wireless technology.  

[Michael8983]

"I would rather have online than the short cut version. That is games using LAN networks or GBA linking. Unfortunately that is not a very logical idea financially at the time in console gaming. So we have to buy excessive amounts of hardware instead."

For a lot of people, the LAN and especially the GBA linking is a lot cheaper than online gaming would be. There are no doubt a lot of Gamecube owners (probably the majority, in fact) that already have a GBA of their own as well as friends with GBAs. The only thing they might be missing is the inexpensive link-cables and one is even included with FFCC.
As for LAN. At least it's free once you've got it set up.
So I don't think either "short-cut" is unfair to consumers. Most people would probably prefer them over having to buy a modem accessory, get broadband, and pay monthly fees for online gaming.

"Everyone knows this game won't be the same if you play it alone. If it were online though you would never have a prob finding a friend to play with or need a single GBA."

Yeah, but you would need to go through the trouble of making your console online-ready and paying monthly fees. I think MOST people would find it a lot easier just to find some real friends.

"Next gen why don't they skip the bs and just pack in a next gen GB that doubles as the console controller using wireless technology."

That wouldn't be fair to consumers who don't want a GB. Nintendo isn't forcing consumers into anything right now. You can buy FFCC and play it alone or you can not buy it at all. It's every Gamecube owner's option to spend money on the connectivity feature or not. Forcing consumers to buy a GB with its next console would take that option away.
It's not like Nintendo could just give it away free with the console afterall. It would have to increase the price.
 

[mouse_clicker]

"Yeah, but you would need to go through the trouble of making your console online-ready and paying monthly fees. I think MOST people would find it a lot easier just to find some real friends."

That raises another point- it's so much better playing games with people that are sitting right beside you. Not to say an online FF:CC wouldn't be fun, but the level of interaction between 4 guys all in the same room rather than thousands of miles away is much greater, and in my opinion that makes the game so much better.

[Michael8983]

"That raises another point- it's so much better playing games with people that are sitting right beside you. Not to say an online FF:CC wouldn't be fun, but the level of interaction between 4 guys all in the same room rather than thousands of miles away is much greater, and in my opinion that makes the game so much better."

I completely agree.
I've read a lot of funny comments from people who have imported the game about how interactive they get with their friends while playing.
Gabe from Penny Arcade said he's sure someone will DIE because of this game.
I can totally see it happening. You're at some huge boss or something and one of your friends screws up and causes the entire group to be defeated. Things could get ugly. So online gaming may be safer but it's definitly not as fun IMO

 

[KDR_11k]

The whole game is about communication. It would suck to have to type the stuff. And it would be unfair to average households to use broadband-only online just to allow voicechat. After all, most of the people with broadband are geeks or hardcore gamers.