Author Topic: Baten Kaitos (Read 33802 times)

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #125 on:** December 14, 2003, 08:13:26 AM »

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I for one, am very please with how this game is looking. The battles look...unique. I won't judge them until I actually use them.

EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing. How can a take a frame from a streaming video and make it an image?

Well, the first thing I did was save the movie to my hard drive, so it wasn't exactly streaming.

But WMP uses a DirectDraw surface by default. If you change the Video Acceleration to "none" however, the movie will play purely in software. Then you can print screen all you like.

Smashman · « **Reply #126 on:** December 14, 2003, 09:47:58 AM »

Just like Wind Waker- people may hate how the game looks before it comes out, but it ends up being excellent. I can smell the same thing with this (except Wind Waker was about its graphics and Baten Kaitos is about the gameplay).

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #127 on:** December 14, 2003, 09:51:40 AM »

Mwergh. With me, it's about the graphics. The gameplay looks great, and that's what matters. I, too, am looking forward to this game, along with ToS.

Padsgoo · « **Reply #128 on:** December 14, 2003, 10:51:09 AM »

Man, I saw the trailer of the gameplay and I just gotta say that this games soundtrack is effin sweet. The monster battle music is really good. Does anybody know if any of the tracks are out there to download?

As for the card gameplay, I've never played that way yet but I'm willing.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #129 on:** December 14, 2003, 10:52:57 AM »

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Mwergh. With me, it's about the graphics. The gameplay looks great, and that's what matters. I, too, am looking forward to this game, along with ToS.

Me and Knowsnothing agree on everything ...Its really weird.

Anyway , I hope the storyline is as deep as it looks. My main problem with RPG's , is when you are forced to backtrack and fight the same enemies over and over...it gets really repetive. But with a battle system like this I dont think I will mind all those battles ...

cheers69 · « **Reply #130 on:** December 14, 2003, 12:46:34 PM »

Im really looking forward to these upcoming RPG's on Cube, i think TOS and baten kaitos will great games for me because I miss RPG's these days.

GO GO CUBE

WesDawg · « **Reply #131 on:** January 15, 2004, 09:27:00 AM »

Apparently Baten hasn't been selling that well in Japan. MagicBox ( http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm ) has this quote up:

"- When asked about the sales of Baten Kaitos, Namco's Haraguchi responded that it seems like the game did not match the GameCube userbase, therefore the game has not meet the expectations."

This pisses me off. Surely its not because you didn't advertise enough, or because your game isn't the next Final Fantasy. Or because you created some sort of weird card system for a console that seems flooded with card based RPGs. Its obviously because theres no userbase for it. Which explains why Skies of Arcadia and PSO sold so badly too. Except that I think they sold fine. I think the Tales game sold OK too from what I've heard. I'm not even sure why this sold so bad, but it pisses me off that he shifts all blame off of himself and onto his potential user base.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #132 on:** January 15, 2004, 09:51:57 AM »

It's business...And I personally wouldn't mind dropping BK for another Tales game...

Mario · « **Reply #133 on:** January 15, 2004, 03:25:19 PM »

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"- When asked about the sales of Baten Kaitos, Namco's Haraguchi responded that it seems like the game did not match the GameCube userbase, therefore the game has not meet the expectations."

Ugh, maybe if developers actually made more 'realistic' RPGs then the GameCube's userbase would expand to people who do buy those types of games.

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Which explains why Skies of Arcadia and PSO sold so badly too. Except that I think they sold fine.

Skies of Arcadia sold horribly, and PSO did 'okay'. I think Baton Kaitos even outsold PSO and Skies, and it's still considered a "bomb". Tales of Symphonia sold pretty well, it's the 16th highest selling GCN game in Japan (total sales), so yeah, i guess thats pretty good for a game without "Nintendo" slapped on it.

WesDawg · « **Reply #134 on:** January 15, 2004, 05:36:55 PM »

Dang! Did they really sell bad? Alas, well I think Nintendo is helping to fund development of these games anyways, so maybe the bad sales don't hurt companies that bad in the long run. Maybe they'll eventually help to bring back some of the RPG fans to the fold too. That seems to be the goal. It seems like its almost an impossible goal right now too.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #135 on:** January 15, 2004, 06:52:09 PM »

I think it didnt do too bad , I mean 80% of its shipment sold out ...which is still pretty good.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #136 on:** January 15, 2004, 07:10:27 PM »

Perhaps they'll find some comfort in the fact that japanese gamers voted Tales of Symphonia as the most satisfying gaming experiene of 2003, just ahead of MKDD. FFX was behind both despite being sold like 5 times as much as both combined...

Berny · « **Reply #137 on:** January 16, 2004, 05:57:30 AM »

Ha ha. Those most legendary RPG series is finally being flushed. Maybe the remake thing of FF7 and FF: CC will help keep it alive. Maybe...

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #138 on:** January 16, 2004, 06:03:16 AM »

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Perhaps they'll find some comfort in the fact that japanese gamers voted Tales of Symphonia as the most satisfying gaming experiene of 2003...

I can't tell you how happy I was when I first saw that... ^_^

Berny · « **Reply #139 on:** January 16, 2004, 06:09:56 AM »

You don't have to bother, Bill. We all know how you feel about this game.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #140 on:** January 16, 2004, 10:20:45 AM »

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You don't have to bother, Bill. We all know how you feel about this game.

and me !!!

I actually didnt know that TOS won that award ....YAYAY got TOS.

Crono · « **Reply #141 on:** April 02, 2004, 07:03:27 PM »

yea uh i havent heard anything for a while about this game. so i was wondering if it is comin to the U.S. or not cause i havent seen anything yet. so i was wondering if they plan to realese it here and if it sold well in japan or not well if you could answer that would be great.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #142 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:26:25 PM »

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yea uh i havent heard anything for a while about this game. so i was wondering if it is comin to the U.S. or not cause i havent seen anything yet. so i was wondering if they plan to realese it here and if it sold well in japan or not well if you could answer that would be great.

You just repeated yourself like 10 times.

Yeah Its coming to the USA. It didnt sell very well in Japan. It made close to 100 000

Crono · « **Reply #143 on:** April 03, 2004, 04:24:36 AM »

have they announed when they will realese it?

akdaman1 · « **Reply #144 on:** April 03, 2004, 12:44:45 PM »

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have they announed when they will realese it?

Not Officialy but sources say its coming. Its apparently locked for Q3-4

Berny · « **Reply #145 on:** April 03, 2004, 01:27:40 PM »

Q3? I seriously doubt it. Although...all the trailers are in English. The cutscene ones anyways. Maybe it's possible. I can't wait either way.

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #146 on:** July 26, 2004, 07:03:47 PM »

Not that big of a bump, but I can't help myself...after seeing the E3 trailer...*drool*...browsing past pages in this thread, I see another argument involving mouse_clicker (I had no idea those had such an early start! lol), our pal Darc who claims to hate Tekken yet has an Eddie avatar, and Bill looking at the pretty overworld. Wheee!

Reviving Darc's argument, I hate card-battlers, but somehow, after watching the battle video at gametrailers, it reminded me a lot of PSO...don't know why, never was a big PSO fan, but for w/e reason, this game seems to draw me to it. Odd...I'm slightly disappointed that it only has one FMV (the opening scene we've all seen by now), but at least it has real-time cutscenes as well. And the overworld - don't ask me why - gives me a distinct "FFVIII" feeling...I'm rambling now, as as with PSO, I was slightly disappointed by VIII when compared to the rest of the series, but still...Baten Kaitos...*drool again*...

BTW, did Grey Ninja ever get around to posting those screenshots? I'd like to see them, but right now it's 11:10 at night so I'd really rather go to bed than look for them. My avatar rox your sox, admit it.

EDIT: I probably sounded stupid to whoever read it in the past five minutes, I meant the first to PSO's, not Ep III.

EDIT 2: ...two*...lol...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #147 on:** July 26, 2004, 10:02:05 PM »

The FFVIII feeling comes from the prerendered background combined with 3d models rendered to a low resolution without anti-aliasing. Antialiasing + postediting on the background + realtime models = desaster.

BTW, if we want to get into people hating their avatars, I have a kind-of FF8 avatar (well, it's from UT2004, but the character comes from FF8) and absolutely hate that game (ARGH! Must. Kill. Squall.).

Hybrid Hunter · « **Reply #148 on:** July 27, 2004, 04:13:01 AM »

I've seen Baten Kaitos screenies, the pre-rendered backgrounds look really nice, and they move too, like water rushing past your feet as you jump over rocks.

rpglover · « **Reply #149 on:** July 27, 2004, 03:39:42 PM »

personally this is my most anticipated rpg right now for the year (with star ocean 3 very close behind)
i love the look of this game- and the battle system looks very cool- not card based as some think it is- the cards themselves represent attacks- some represent items for healing, ect..
say you play a sword attack card (regular attack) then add a fire card your attack would be one attack with the fire element added- if you add fire and water together, the result would be that the elements counter act eachother and thus null the attack causing less damage- it seems to be a very interesting system- and i really cant wait for it to arrive- last i heard the game was supposed to come out in november- but dont hold me too it- now back to tales of symphonia!

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Author Topic: Baten Kaitos (Read 33802 times)