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RE:Baten Kaitos
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2003, 05:59:50 AM »
yeah neverwinter nights is probably my favorite pc rpg hands down- there is so much in that game and it is very rewarding
my personal favorite rpgs of all time are chrono trigger, ff3, grandia 2, vagrant story, and of course valkyrie profile
in an rpg i look for mostly a good battle system to keep me entertained and a good story
i like customization too but i dont think i would like it too much in a console rpg- i like to keep that stuff for bioware to make on the pc
baten kaitos is on my top list right now- it has good things going for it- an interesting battle system, good graphics, and the directors making this game are very respectable in their fields of work
hopefully this game will live up to the hype i have for it right now
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« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2003, 02:09:36 PM »
OUCH!

Baten Kaitos (Namco) - 8, 8, 8, 7 - 31/40 (Silver)

Anyone know what's so wrong with my most anticipated game that it didn't get a gold?  *sniff*
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« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2003, 03:15:57 PM »
Is that Famitsu?

Dengeki gave it straight 9's...
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« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2003, 04:00:09 PM »
*sob*... well, at least that's some comfort.... *sniffle*
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« Reply #79 on: November 26, 2003, 07:31:54 PM »
Relax, its famitsu

Unless the RPG sets the world on fire or if its named final fantasy, it will usually get scores in that range. Past famitsu rpg reviews.

Xenosaga: 32
Xenogears: 31
BoFV: 32
Tales of Destiny 2 (PS2): 32
Wild Arms 3: 31
Wild Arms: Code F: 33
FFX-2: 33
Unlimited Saga: 31
Grandia Xtreme: either 32 or 31
Kingdom Hearts 33

Highest rated this generation

Tales of Symphonia: 34
Shin Megami Tensei III 35
Dark Chronicle (DC2) 36
FFX 39

If BK gets 31 from famitsu, you immediatly know its not bad. When you see dengeki give it straight 9's, you can pretty much say that Baten Kaitos will be a big caliber RPG on gamecube.

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« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2003, 07:35:39 PM »
Oh crap, for your sake you better delete that Xenogears score!
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« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2003, 07:38:09 PM »
Xenogears rocked, haters be damned

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« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2003, 08:32:42 PM »
FFX got a 39? Rubbish! Those Japanese gamers must really like poorly written soap operas

As for Baten Kaitos, when I first saw it, I wasn't excited (not a fan of anything that has the word "Card" in it). But a couple weeks ago I watched some gameplay footage, and the battling looked fast and furious. If it comes to the US I'll definitely consider buying it, though, not before ToS, of course.

Oh, by the way, what are Dark Chronicle and Shin Megami Tensei?
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« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2003, 09:05:38 PM »
dark chronicle = dark cloud, shin megami tensei? no idea

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« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2003, 09:23:56 PM »
any magazine that gives unlimited saga and grandia xtreme such high scores needs a smack in the face

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« Reply #85 on: November 27, 2003, 02:54:26 AM »
Koopa, the same thing happened to me with BK.
Wait...Baten Kaitos? I though this was the Burger King thread.

By the way, Lagviper, your avatar is like twice the allowed size.  
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« Reply #86 on: November 27, 2003, 08:01:20 AM »
Lagviper.... thanks.  That actually set my mind at ease.    If Xenogears also got a 31, then I don't have anything to worry about.  

Koopa, Shin Megami Tensei is a Japanese RPG that's never come to North America.  The Xbox one is probably the only reason Japan has sold ANY Xboxes.  
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« Reply #87 on: November 27, 2003, 09:56:35 AM »
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dark chronicle = dark cloud, shin megami tensei? no idea


Ahhh, Dark Cloud... thanks =)

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Koopa, the same thing happened to me with BK.
Wait...Baten Kaitos? I though this was the Burger King thread.


Hehehehe

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Koopa, Shin Megami Tensei is a Japanese RPG that's never come to North America.


Ohhhh, I see. I kept trying to think of the english translation (like Seiken Densetsu == Legend of Mana-games), obviously it doesn't have one, though, hehe. Thanks =)

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The Xbox one is probably the only reason Japan has sold ANY Xboxes.


LoL! No doubt.
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« Reply #88 on: November 27, 2003, 10:03:10 AM »
Well....Shin = Heart...Megami = Goddess...I can't remember what Tensei is translated into, but you can get a decent grasp that the game is an RPG...
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« Reply #89 on: November 27, 2003, 10:31:43 AM »
Tensei means war or battle I believe.
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« Reply #90 on: November 27, 2003, 12:23:50 PM »
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Originally posted by: Lagviper
Relax, its famitsu
Xenosaga: 32
Xenogears: 31
BoFV: 32
Tales of Destiny 2 (PS2): 32
Wild Arms 3: 31
Wild Arms: Code F: 33
FFX-2: 33
Unlimited Saga: 31
Grandia Xtreme: either 32 or 31
Kingdom Hearts 33



Har, har, har, none of them match ToS score.
I'm anticipating BK more than ToS though.  
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« Reply #91 on: November 27, 2003, 05:06:27 PM »
Here's the individual comments from the famitsu editors

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"-The game is put together in a fashion that gives it an air of being an established, confident creation despite being completely new. The featured card game is completely playable on its own merit.

-The game stimulates the desire to collect stuff within its world, so the player never gets bored. However, characters on the map screen are very hard to see, coming off as mere specks when far away.

-This game can be enjoyed at one's own pace over a long period of time. Although the visuals are gorgeous, they are so precise to the point that it is actually difficult to make out things.

-A frequent number of sub-events gives the game a gives the game a feel of grandeur. However, I was bothered by the poor response time of the control pad, the poor pacing of dramatic scenes within the game, and the sudden darkening that occured with 'flagging.'"



So characters can get hard to see when far away (wow, we're breaking all logics barriers here..), the visuals are too good to the point where you cant draw the line between virtual and reality!
The control issue is a bit bothersome but he's the only one mentioning it, controls in an RPG are also usually one of the last thing to bitch about, its not an action game here, so he must have been desperate to find something negative to say. And it gets "too dark" at some point in the story, darn, i thought it would always stay happy happy and carebears would make an appearance.

Famitsu reviewers reminds me of the Iron chefs judges, no matter how good the chef is and how his food is some of the best in the world, the judges just keep nitpicking on something. They also have a  different attitude with foreign chefs (but thats japan in a nutshell) and any rookie who dares challenging the Iron Chef (which would be square in famitsu' case).

I just find it funny.  

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« Reply #92 on: November 27, 2003, 05:11:50 PM »
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So characters can get hard to see when far away (wow, we're breaking all logics barriers here..), the visuals are too good to the point where you cant draw the line between virtual and reality!
Well I can understand the map screen thing...They should have had the camera follow your character...
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RE: Baten Kaitos
« Reply #93 on: November 28, 2003, 04:55:00 AM »
They shouldn't have gone with prerendered backgrounds in first place.

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« Reply #94 on: November 28, 2003, 05:16:59 PM »
hey, have you guys seen the new baten kaitos movies up on Namco's site? The game's looking pretty damn nice if you ask me!

You can find them at:
http://www.namco-ch.net/batenkaitos/cm/index.html

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« Reply #95 on: November 28, 2003, 05:27:44 PM »
Thanks Neko.  I already had most of them, but I loved the extended one that was there.  I must say that the videos didn't really change my expectations of the game much.  I fully expect the game to be the greatest RPG ever.    I mean, Tri-Ace and Monolith?  That's the best combination since Enix and Square in Chrono Trigger.  

Lagviper I think is completely correct in this case.  Those comments were so ridiculous that it really does seem that the reviewers just needed to invent things to bitch about.  
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« Reply #96 on: November 28, 2003, 06:12:41 PM »
This game looks great but...what are the chances of it coming to Australia?
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« Reply #97 on: November 28, 2003, 06:17:36 PM »
it's going to launch next to Super Mario RPG and Chronotrigger.

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« Reply #98 on: November 28, 2003, 06:25:30 PM »
Are they being rereleased? I thought they never came out here? ....oh..DAMN..now i get yer.
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« Reply #99 on: November 28, 2003, 07:30:25 PM »
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it's going to launch next to Super Mario RPG and Chronotrigger


Huh? Those games never came out in Australia?
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