Author Topic: Zelda is dead (Read 10626 times)

AdvancedGamer · « **on:** June 28, 2003, 05:08:38 PM »

This pretty much sucks. Wind Waker was easy and beaten fast. Tetra Trackers and 4 Swords don't look promising. New Zelda games have been announced (for GC and GBA) but there is nothing on them and they don't even have a realese date. I highly doubt Tetra's Trackers and 4 Swords will meet Zelda expections. Well as you can see I'm kinda deprssed so give me some news or rumblings about upcoming Zelda games so I can be happy.

PIAC · « **Reply #1 on:** June 29, 2003, 01:30:33 AM »

dont be so melodromatic. there is a direct sequel to Wind Waker coming, and im sure nintendo isn't going to completly ignore the fact the only fault most people could find with the wind waker was its ease. this issue will most likely be addressed.

4 swords/Tetra Trackers arn't 'real' zelda titles, so dont stress too badly ;P

go play some more LoZ/LoZ TaOL/LA/LttP/OoT/MM/the 2 made by capcom for GBC that i cant remember the anmes of/WW in that order, by the time you finnish all those, youl be sick of zelda for a bit

AdvancedGamer · « **Reply #2 on:** June 29, 2003, 04:19:49 AM »

Ya. I haven't played the NES ones and all the GB ones. Good idea.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2003, 07:49:19 AM »

Be sure to play Link's Awakening. Awesome game.

I really liked Wind Waker, and while I probably won't get either, Tetra's Trackers and Four Swords look pretty fun (especially Four Swords. Thas' so cool).

Big_Pimp · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2003, 01:22:42 PM »

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Be sure to play Link's Awakening. Awesome game.

I really liked Wind Waker, and while I probably won't get either, Tetra's Trackers and Four Swords look pretty fun (especially Four Swords. Thas' so cool).

They better not be $50 each, if not I'm going to be very upset.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2003, 03:25:58 PM »

I don't think they will be, but who knows.

I wish you could play Four Swords without GBAs. . . I'd buy it in an instant, even if it were fifty bucks.

HolyPaladin · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2003, 05:12:17 AM »

No matter how many people may bellyache about Wind Waker being too easy, the game absolutely owned. Again, it is better that a game be easier but enjoyable than harder and less enjoyable. "But, Holy Paladin, a harder game is more enjoyable!" To some, yes, but not to all. Some will find frustration to be less enjoyable, and frustration can shut the door on many gamers out there altogether. My girlfriend is one of those that found Wind Waker to be too frustrating, as it is. She got furious with it at one point early on, erased her file in a fit of rage, and declared that she'll never touch it again.

As for Four Swords and Tetra's Trackers, Four Swords is a sort of remake of A Link to the Past, basically being the same game but with extra modes of play, if I remember correctly. ALttP was the greatest video game every made for years before Ocarina of Time dethroned it, so Four Swords can't help but be great. The game couldn't suck if it tried. As for Tetra's Trackers: blah. I don't care much for it. It may be a fun game to play, but I don't like seeing Link popping up in spin-off titles. Leave that to Mario and Pokemon. What's next, Metroid Puzzle League?

I really hated seeing idiots everywhere griping about Tetra's Trackers as though it was the next Zelda title Nintendo was talking about. It is a spin-off game, not an actual Zelda title. Gamers everywhere really let me down during and after E3 with their ranting over that game.

Oh, and I just noticed the comment about Wind Waker being beaten fast. If a gamer doesn't cheat by using a player's guide, website tips, hints, or tricks, or any other form of outside help and actually play the game rather than racing through it, the game should offer dozens of hours of gameplay the first time through. If one actually does just about everything there is to do in the game, it might possibly take upward of a hundred hours. If you simply race from point A to point B to point C as fast as possible, especially if using outside information to help you, of course it will go fast. However, the fasted possible time in which it could be beaten is not as fast as many, many, many other titles out there, including many of those considered best. I like to use Resident Evil games as an example for comparison, as they can be beaten in a couple or three hours. Nobody can play through Wind Waker that fast.

Rymir · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2003, 09:20:50 AM »

I'm sorry but I'm starting to agree... I have been a Zelda fan for nearly ever... but Majora's Mask, well, wasn't worthy of the name "Zelda", and Wind Waker was fun, interesting and kept my attention... HOWEVER, I don't really like the direction Wind Waker is pointing too, I'm hoping that Gannon isn't really dead, I guess I can live without Hyrule... I have a feeling in one form or another eventually Death Mountain will return.

Hyrule and Gannon are what make Zelda console games... the GB ones are better off set in other places and make good sidequests.. I'm not for sure if I believe Gannon is really gone... I mean that would be like the chances of Mario killing off Bowser for good, it's just not Nintendo's style.. my guess is the next major Zelda or the one after it will be kind of like LttP, you think the boss is the Wizard in LttP then it turns out to be Gannnon, they might try to pull something similar... if not and Gannon/Hyrule are really gone...

(cries in corner, slaps himself, and recomposes himself..)

It just wouldn't be right.. again it would be like Mario without Bowser, TRUE it was pulled off beautifully in Mario RPG for SNES, and they might be able to do something like that with Zelda, who knows I guess.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2003, 07:32:13 PM »

Jeebus, and I loved MM and WW and I think the connectivity games are cool. I'm weird.

The very first Mario game didn't have Bowser. The second didn't either. And believe me, I was super pissed when they put him in SMS. The villains aren't what make the games, nor do the places make the game (both Zelda and Mario have different enemies and different locations throughout their history, and even similar locations change; Hyrule in LttP and Hyrule in OoT, for example). The characters are what make the games. Link, Zelda, and Mario. And whatever other characters there are among Ninty's other franchises.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2003, 07:02:16 AM »

Bowser WAS in the original Super Mario Bros.- he was the boss after every friggin' castle for crying out loud. King Koopa and Bowser are the same person. And the American Super Mario Bros. 2 wasn't even an actual Mario game- the REAL SMB2 was released initially in Japan but NOA thought it was too similar to SMB1 so they took another Japanese game, put Mario in it, and released it. The actual SMB2 wasn't released stateside until Super Mario Allstars as The Lost Levels, and while I haven't actually played it, I'm pretty sure Bowser was in it as well. Bowser is a staple of the franchise- villains are just as much characters as everyone else and have a special place in every game series. You could have a Mario game without Bowser, but it wouldn't feel right.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2003, 07:35:59 AM »

Super Mario Land didn't have Bowser either, and I still think that King Koopa is different from Bowser, regardless of what anyone says

This may just be me, though. One thing about Nintendo (and this is not solely their problem; everyone in the video game industry probably does this) that annoys me is their fondness for using the same villain over and over. I like variety, and occassionally I'd like to see a Shadow Mario without some stupidass Bowser kid inside of it.

Berny · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2003, 06:38:20 PM »

SOMEONE KILLED ZELDA?!? I'LL KILL THE NO GOOD SON B**** MO' FO' ETC, ETC! But seriously. I don't think it's such a bad idea to kill off Ganon. I mean, you can only go through the same plot so many times. It's change that's keeping these series alive. The CONROVERSY that cel shading caused. The SHOCK at the thought of Mario packing heat...sure it's a water cannon but I thought the water looked warm. Anyways, maybe he's gone forever and instead his daughter Ganonooroo will take over the quest for the golden triangles. THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: GANON'S DAUGHTER'S ATTEMPTED REVIVAL OF HER FATHER AND CONQUER NEW HYRULE! An epic quest of a boy to stop a maniacal she–thief. Ok, bad idea but its incredibly long name would turn some heads. *shrugs*

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #12 on:** July 02, 2003, 08:07:26 AM »

No, the title needs to have something to do with an instrument, like the Banjo of Destiny or something.

Berny · « **Reply #13 on:** July 02, 2003, 12:26:54 PM »

Mmmm...there's taking the series in a new direction. Not only will it be cel-shaded, but Link gets to eat the fish he runs over in the King of Red Lions II, but he gets to have a magnificent ballad, performed on the banjo of destiny, played at his and Aryll's wedding!

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #14 on:** July 02, 2003, 06:17:04 PM »

Aryll's his sister. . . are you talking about incest because banjo=hillbilly=incest?

JNethery · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2003, 10:10:55 PM »

The "Banjo of Destiny", "Metroid Puzzle League", LOL that's some funny sh**! Anyway, speaking of Metroid... That is a perfect example of how different villains is a good thing. They only used Mother Brain twice, and not even back-to-back. Very good idea in my opinion. I'm sure that Nintendo will come up with a good replacement for Ganon--until some idiot pulls the Master Sword out of his head and brings him back to life--hopefully it'll be Tingle's fairy a$$ and then Ganon cuts his friggin' head off. I really don't like Tingle (in case you couldn't tell). And by the way, Four Swords is a four-player quest to, basically, collect the most rupees. It's going to be released on GCN (so that you won't need a GBA to play it). It originally was part of the GBA re-release of Lttp, but it's being released as it's own title for GCN. Last thing: Tetra's Trackers looks like a piece of sh**. I'm not even going to rent that lame spin-off.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2003, 10:43:30 PM »

Actually, since none of you apparently know this, EAD is working on a sequel using the WW engine right now....

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2003, 05:59:52 AM »

I knew dat. Except for the EAD part. Yay.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2003, 08:49:49 AM »

lol who did you think was making it? Besides, those 1000 people who work at EAD must doing something other than Pac-Man...remember than next time you assume something

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2003, 04:54:20 PM »

Dude, my knowledge of video game developers extends to Nintendo, Sega, Capcom, and Retro Studios. That's basically it. I know others, but I'm not entirely sure of what they do. Not until today did I recall that Factor 5 made that Roque Leader.

thepoga · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2003, 10:12:55 PM »

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Super Mario Land didn't have Bowser either, and I still think that King Koopa is different from Bowser, regardless of what anyone says

This may just be me, though. One thing about Nintendo (and this is not solely their problem; everyone in the video game industry probably does this) that annoys me is their fondness for using the same villain over and over. I like variety, and occassionally I'd like to see a Shadow Mario without some stupidass Bowser kid inside of it.

well, king koopa is bowser. its actually the original name. ya see, nintendo just decided to americanize the name from king koopa to bowser ( king koopa is his title sorta... though). Its like how they change Pokemon Green, to Pokemon Blue or in the case of sonic adventure, they decided to just plain change the name of dr. robotnik, to dr. eggman. (by the way eggman is a DUMB name).

do u really have to have a completely new character every game? you said u like variety and well, variety are something the mario games are known for. people EXPECT to fight bowser at the very end. just like sonic. he fights robotnik in every game almost. but the way the enemy attacks you changes in every game. so ya.

Oblivious · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2003, 04:07:53 AM »

Ugh I hate hot they changed it to Eggman. Stupid name. Speaking of Sonic. Do you all recall that special Sonic game for GCN including Sonic 1, 2, and 3, Sonic 3D, Sonic Spinball, etc., etc., anyway it was about seven games in one. They should do that with the classic Zelda games. Have Link's Awakening and all that good stuff. That would give a chance for gamers without SNESs or NESs to play the great games of old on their next-gen system.

Game_Master · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:30:16 PM »

If you ask me I think Gannon's awsome! He makes the game a whole lot funner. And I think that someone should like pull the sword out of his head and boom! He's back! Of course I am a girl and I think that when it show'd it going through his head was so gross! But I mean he's crazy! He was laughing when Link stuck it in his head. Maybe thats because he has a plan or something to be able to come back. Like in Harry Potter. Cause Lord Voldemort like although he always fails his plans get better and better and he never gives up. Maybe like the guy pulls out the sword from Gannon's head and Gannon kills him and blah blah blah. And then you need Link to save the day but the sword was damaged some how and you have to repair it and do some other stuff. (lol i cant think of it right now.) That would be awsome.

I don't really want it to be on the sea again. There was bearly any land. It sucked. (in my opinion) I think it would be awsome if he had like some kind of animal that would fly. I think that would be totally cool!

(Hey, i'm a gurl!)

PIAC · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2003, 03:08:08 AM »

a land mass as big as the ocean in wind waker would be awsome!, especially if you could get to areas without loading like wind waker, but i dont really see how they could do that... unless you had to traverse caves or something to get through different areas? hrm...

Princess Zelda · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2003, 03:09:23 PM »

I agree with Game_Master. The new Zelda game would probably be boring on the sea again. There was bearly any land and way too much water. And I also agree with PIAC about the land mass being as big as the sea was. Sure the sea was cool at first but it got tiring after a while. Yet in the air would be awsome too.

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