Author Topic: Too Human? (Read 12339 times)

ThePerm · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2003, 05:23:12 PM »

Actually, the jump in graphics will be astounding. Truely there will be games with fmv quality graphics. I have now seen it with doom 3 and halflife 2. Putting Too human on gamecueb would just kill the title. Too human hasa better chance as a flagship launch title. They just have to start preparign it for launch now rather then later.

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2003, 02:48:15 AM »

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Actually, the jump in graphics will be astounding. Truely there will be games with fmv quality graphics. I have now seen it with doom 3 and halflife 2. Putting Too human on gamecueb would just kill the title. Too human hasa better chance as a flagship launch title. They just have to start preparign it for launch now rather then later.

Well, maybe its time to think about how likely this could be. Nothing on Too Human has ever been shown, all thats known is the graphics are supposed to look as good as the FMV we saw( which really looks far too amazing to be pulled of on GCN) so that might be another hint towards that theory. If you also take in consideration that this is major hit, and certainly couldnt be released before mid/end 2004 might make Nintendo think its more feasible and profitable to be released on GCN Sucessor. Furthermore, SK has atleast not denied that their other title for GCN may not Too Human. Why shouldnt they release another ED for GCN?

I personally would love to see Too Human for GCN 2, Nintendo should really know what this could do for them, and I also prefer the thought of what I hope to be the best game ever to be on the best Nintendo System ever. And, It would be the first game to skip 2 plattforms.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2003, 05:58:11 AM »

Ninja: I haven't played either game, I just thought they were real-time. Good that you got to play Fantasy Empires, though.

"Actually, the jump in graphics will be astounding. Truely there will be games with fmv quality graphics. I have now seen it with doom 3 and halflife 2."

We've almost already attainted FMV quality graphics in the current generation- as games get closer and closer to photo realism, there's going to be less and less of a jump in between generations in terms of graphics. Denis has said that he thinks as consoles get so powerful that no console has an advantage technically, the real advantage will be in the quality of the games, which, no doubt, SK and Nintendo have been practicing for years.

And as for all this talk of Too Human as a GC2 launch title, yes, it would be nice, but I don't know if SK really wants to build the game from the ground up for yet another console when they were so close to release for two others, and I don't think Nintendo would want to put out the money for something like that.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2003, 06:24:28 AM »

Unless NIntendo have already given them Gamecube 2 development kits. Haha.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #29 on:** June 27, 2003, 11:08:42 AM »

According to the new IGN Mailbag, IGN thinks that Too Human will likely be a launch title on the GameCube's successor. Personally I think that IGN doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but if they keep on spouting off crap, odds are that sooner or later, the random crap that they shout might actually come true. Hence, there is a possibility that they are correct, but not because of any living brain cells present in their heads.

I am thinking that if Nintendo wants to take the next generation by storm, Too Human would be the PERFECT game to launch with, and a Promise of Metroid Prime 3 (2?) shortly afterward. It seems that Nintendo is really getting ready to play hardball.

NintendoFanGirl · « **Reply #30 on:** June 27, 2003, 08:31:46 PM »

How about adding that zoonami game that no one knows anything about as another launch title, hopefully something on the lines of Goldeneye. If you think about it, didn't Halo take over where Goldeneye left off? Something needs to take over Halo and it shouldn't be Halo 2. And just for the record, I'm sick of hearing about GTAVC!

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #31 on:** June 27, 2003, 08:58:59 PM »

Zoonami is a fake company.
Just like how Rare made up those two websites about "Datadyne" and the "Carrington Institute".
These are ex-Rares anyway. Haha

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #32 on:** June 28, 2003, 03:14:41 AM »

Yay. I'm not the only one that thinks that Too Human may be a launch title for Nintendo's next console, which I have mentioned in several other threads.

Am I the only one that thinks that Nintendo should delay their next Mario game for their next console as a launch title to give it a kick start? Before anyone unplugs their monitor and throws it at me, here's my reason: Nintendo has stated the game will be innovative. What makes me wonder is how many more innovative ideas can Nintendo come up for their Mario games. There's only so many innovative ideas you can come up with. I'm thinking that maybe it will be a bit late in the GameCube's life cycle to release a killer Mario game and it may be best to delay till the next gen. to kick some butt. And please, I don't want to hear something like "It's Nintendo. They can came up with a million innovative ideas."

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #33 on:** June 28, 2003, 08:12:04 AM »

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Yay. I'm not the only one that thinks that Too Human may be a launch title for Nintendo's next console, which I have mentioned in several other threads.

Am I the only one that thinks that Nintendo should delay their next Mario game for their next console as a launch title to give it a kick start? Before anyone unplugs their monitor and throws it at me, here's my reason: Nintendo has stated the game will be innovative. What makes me wonder is how many more innovative ideas can Nintendo come up for their Mario games. There's only so many innovative ideas you can come up with. I'm thinking that maybe it will be a bit late in the GameCube's life cycle to release a killer Mario game and it may be best to delay till the next gen. to kick some butt. And please, I don't want to hear something like "It's Nintendo. They can came up with a million innovative ideas."

Well, delaying the Mario game for the GCN sucessor would really thin out the GCN lineup. But then again, this long wait for a Mario sequel might make it sell better, who knows. Anyway, I personally am already convinced that Too Human is going for GCN2, especially after reading Matts mailbag on IGN. While it hurts to wait, I think its the right decision.

jarob · « **Reply #34 on:** June 28, 2003, 09:27:12 AM »

It sounds like people on this list want many games to wait for GameCube 2. Mario, Metroid, Too Human... What about GameCube 1? I hope all these games come out for the current system. I do not want to wait 2 years. Maybe Too Human, but how long can this game be delayed? System after System, get it out and work on part two.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 28, 2003, 09:33:29 AM »

No i want Mario on this console, for the sole fact that if Mario 128 is a killer App, then it will create huge hype for GC 2.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #36 on:** June 28, 2003, 12:12:05 PM »

I completely agree with Don'tHate. Nintendo's next console should definitely have a Mario game at launch, though, as well as a plethora of other killer apps spanning many genres- variety and quality together can give Nintendo's next console and incredible boost, one they'll need launching a year early.

Kaj'oin · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2003, 02:19:57 PM »

What Nintendo needs for Launch:Mario,Too Human and a first party FPS, you could say Metroid but something new would be nice.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #38 on:** June 28, 2003, 03:09:03 PM »

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It sounds like people on this list want many games to wait for GameCube 2. Mario, Metroid, Too Human... What about GameCube 1? I hope all these games come out for the current system. I do not want to wait 2 years. Maybe Too Human, but how long can this game be delayed? System after System, get it out and work on part two.

Actually I completely agree with you. The GameCube is fully deserving of its time in the sun, and it's still WAY too early to be pushing games back to Nintendo's next console. I am suggesting Too Human for launch next time around, as we have already seen the game pushed through 3 different systems, and I just don't see the harm in taking it one step further.

This game is going to make history anyways as being the most... ported game without being released.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #39 on:** June 30, 2003, 10:28:41 PM »

Holy cow you guys are imatient...just shut up and when the game coms out, you'll know. Would you rather have Ocarina of Time come out in early 97 or something? Remember those original clips with the Stalfos battle, or that one with Link actually running up to a chest and finding the Triforce inside? Be patient, and ye shall become happy or something...eventually.

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #40 on:** July 01, 2003, 12:45:05 AM »

I agree with gamefreak, maybe its more than just business decisions to push the games back to GCN2.
For instance, screens

remember Denis saying the graphics of Too Human looked as good as the FMV? Do you think such graphics are actually possible on the GCN? I dont think any system so far, not even the PC could have such graphics, those graphics certainly exceed those of Half Life 2 IMO.
So what Im trying to say is that some games may not be able to be fully forfilled in the visual department on GCN, hence the delay to GCN2.
Im sure well also be seeing realistic Zeldas on GCN 2, because there wont be any graphical boundaries anymore.

Mario · « **Reply #41 on:** July 01, 2003, 12:51:00 AM »

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remember Denis saying the graphics of Too Human looked as good as the FMV?

I find that hard to believe considering those pics are from the psx version. And Mario 128 should NOT be pushed back to the next console, hell they were gonna show it at E3 but didnt want thier idea to be stolen, and its supposed to come out at the end of this year in Japan. I want Mario 128 on Gamecube. I dont really care about the GC2 just yet, im too busy playing Wind Waker.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #42 on:** July 01, 2003, 03:35:31 AM »

"I find that hard to believe considering those pics are from the psx version."

I'm talking about the FMV IGNCube has in their preview, which was from a short video that was being played at Spaceworld.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #43 on:** July 01, 2003, 07:06:35 AM »

Those are just brushed up version of the FMVs they had for the PSX.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #44 on:** July 01, 2003, 07:15:25 AM »

Whatever- whether they were made on the Cube or cleaned up PSX FMV, I don't see how that would affect Denis Dyack's claim that the rela time graphics of Too Human are as good as the FMV in those shots (which is pretty damn good).

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 01, 2003, 10:29:20 AM »

I don't know, Denis Dyack also said that Eternal Darkness was running on subset of the Too Human engine (graphics and all).......

If I have interperated it correctly, that means Too human most be fantastic becuase Eternal Darkness had some pretty nice graphics in my opinion. Also, I don't find it that hard to believe (FMV graphics = realtime), but I doubt it will be on this console unless they want to use like 6 discs or something. Eternal Darkness was going to use 2 but SK decided to compress the sh** out of it instead (ultimately flawing the game). Now if you think about the subset thing again, then Too Human would theoriticallly be on >3 discs, which would cost them some money.....

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #46 on:** July 01, 2003, 10:53:09 AM »

If the real-time graphics are FMV quality or at least close to it why even bother using FMV cut-scenes, which take up an inordinate amount of space on the disc. If SK doesn't use any FMV, or at least very little, the game could easily fit on 1 or 2 discs, especially with the DivX compression they'd use no whatever FMV they did use.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #47 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:27:28 PM »

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remember Denis saying the graphics of Too Human looked as good as the FMV? Do you think such graphics are actually possible on the GCN? I dont think any system so far, not even the PC could have such graphics, those graphics certainly exceed those of Half Life 2 IMO.

You know what else looks better than Half Life 2? Rogue Squadron 3, and Rebirth.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #48 on:** July 01, 2003, 03:43:09 PM »

Well, to be fair Rebirth was a mixture of FMV and real-time graphics, although the transition was seamless and one has to be told where it switches.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #49 on:** July 01, 2003, 03:50:32 PM »

Well, they just ran out of time. The original intention was to create the whole thing in real time. If they had a few more days, the whole thing would have been in real time I'm sure.

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