Author Topic: Gameboy Advance Attachment (Read 47956 times)

WesDawg · « **Reply #50 on:** June 24, 2003, 04:46:12 AM »

Rick, Surely they can make games that know whether they're in the GBP or on a GBA or a GBA:SP. Doesn't FF:Tactics do that somehow? Anyways, couldn't they put both control schemes in. One for when you've connected two/four GBAs and one for when you're on the GBP?

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #51 on:** June 24, 2003, 10:28:38 AM »

Why can't developers just add another mode in there Multi-Player category that specifies wether you are using a GBP or GBA's. I'm sure Nintendo has this in mind for future games.

Rhoq · « **Reply #52 on:** June 24, 2003, 11:40:56 AM »

Here is my dilemma...I do not own any version of GameBoy and I don't have any GameBoy games. I am interested in the GameBoy Player because it would allow me to play some of the older NES/SNES titles like Super Mario Bros. and Street Fighter II. Since I am a casual gamer and would only use the GameBoy Player as a means of reliving my childhood with a handful of games, would you guys recommend that I buy one? My fear is that I would spend $50 on the GBP (and what $25-$35 on cartridges?) and not make good use of the unit by only playing a handful games. I wouldn't want my purchase to go to waste since I barely play my Cube as it is.

DRJ · « **Reply #53 on:** June 24, 2003, 12:00:12 PM »

If there is at least one game that you would want to play, then I would recommend getting the player. If you are not sure what you would play I would say wait a while. Nintendo is giving these away free with every gamecube purchase, so there are going to be a lot of gameboy players that people will be trying to sell second hand. Check out ebay in a month and pick one up for $30. As for me I am getting one right away since I cant wait to play zelda and metroid on the tv.

SCF · « **Reply #54 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:34:08 PM »

I know the gameboyplayer is an awesome addition to Nintendo's hardware lineup BUT I think my local Gamestop store is abusive on this little machine. When I got to the store I notice most of the new GBA games were in the 40 bucks rage wich I thought it was rare since a month ago I went to the same store and most of them where in the 30 bucks range. When I go to pick up my new GBA player they told me it wasn't 45.99 that I had to pay,(because i pre order it a while a go) no no no it was 55.99 that I had to pay, so that means i had to pay 99.99 bucks for the gba player plus a gba game? WTF? this is abusive I tell you abusive I was so mad that they change the price range because they wanted more $$$$ I think this is too much, 40 bucks for a gba game is too much in my mind when we all know that the gba games are always in the 30 range, i may be bitching about the 10 or 20 bucks that i have to pay more, but think about it, if i pay 20 more bucks, so will you and other 1000 people meaning they are making more money. I think this is too abusive and a slap in the face to the gamer comunity, so screw you gamestop.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #55 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:52:31 PM »

"When I go to pick up my new GBA player they told me it wasn't 45.99 that I had to pay,(because i pre order it a while a go) no no no it was 55.99 that I had to pay, so that means i had to pay 99.99 bucks for the gba player plus a gba game?"

Did they tell you when you pre-ordered that the price was 45.99? If that's the price you agreed to they shouldn't be able to just charge an extra 10 bucks (that might even be illegal). I don't know how you handled the situation but I would have chewed them out right there. Something to the tune of "this is BULLSH!T. You can kiss my business good bye." would have been my words.

If you were pissed off why didn't you buy the game somewhere else? I understand you pre-ordered the Player but I assume you just bought a game off of the shelf.

SCF · « **Reply #56 on:** June 24, 2003, 03:31:58 PM »

No I didnt bought a game from them in fact I don't think I will till they lower the prices again, but yet thats their problem losing another costumer, im gonna check Eb tomorrow to see if they have the GCP cheaper cause I really want it but not so much that i'll pay the extra money for it.

N-forced · « **Reply #57 on:** June 24, 2003, 03:44:38 PM »

Hi guys,

Some of you probably also own a GBP like me, and after playing some time with if i got a question:

The Screen sometimes got frame isues, especially noticable in newer platform games where a whole lot of scrolling is going on.
I'm a owner of a Pal version and i got it running in 60 hz mode.

I'm thinking that Nintendo did some lousy porting, cause the main market is using the ntsc format.
I've read your faq and that didn't clear up the probs i'm getting so could you please check your scrolling again ?

Does your Player run the games as fluidly like your gba ?

TOY · « **Reply #58 on:** June 24, 2003, 04:29:27 PM »

I picked up my Gameboy Player today from EB and my purchase went much better than SCF. I preordered and payed in full quite a while ago, the price was 39.99 and the salesman told me I was lucky to have payed it off so early because the price is now 49.99 and he couldnt charge me the extra 10.00 For once something finally goes my way. Now I just need to get it hooked up so I can try it.

TOY

Bartman3010 · « **Reply #59 on:** June 24, 2003, 05:48:15 PM »

Yeah, my games sometimes lagged for a second, but I'm not totally affected by this.

I'm also aware that my TV tuner on my PC can resize the display any way I want to. So I can have my games full screen on my PC (And on my TV through some connecting) but thats beside the point.

Also, I'm happy some people agree with me on the multiplayer issue. I wouldnt mind if the mini games were on one screen only. But with 2 player games like DKC's Candy Kong's DDR (Or wahtever its called) its ridiculous that you need another GBA and copy of DKC to play this mode. Although I wonder if this is impossible, since I found out that no matter what controllers plugged into where, it'll still take responses for the same first controller.

Rhoq · « **Reply #60 on:** June 25, 2003, 04:37:21 AM »

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Originally posted by: SCF
I know the gameboyplayer is an awesome addition to Nintendo's hardware lineup BUT I think my local Gamestop store is abusive on this little machine. When I got to the store I notice most of the new GBA games were in the 40 bucks rage wich I thought it was rare since a month ago I went to the same store and most of them where in the 30 bucks range. When I go to pick up my new GBA player they told me it wasn't 45.99 that I had to pay,(because i pre order it a while a go) no no no it was 55.99 that I had to pay, so that means i had to pay 99.99 bucks for the gba player plus a gba game? WTF? this is abusive I tell you abusive I was so mad that they change the price range because they wanted more $$$$ I think this is too much, 40 bucks for a gba game is too much in my mind when we all know that the gba games are always in the 30 range, i may be bitching about the 10 or 20 bucks that i have to pay more, but think about it, if i pay 20 more bucks, so will you and other 1000 people meaning they are making more money. I think this is too abusive and a slap in the face to the gamer comunity, so screw you gamestop.

I'm glad to know that I am not the only one who thinks GameStop is shady at times. From what I have personally witnessed, certain GameStop stores make up their own prices. I live in Philadelphia, PA (USA) - I work in Center City (our downtown area). The only GameStop in this area is at The Gallery (a shopping mall). Since The Gallery is a high traffic shopping center, the GameStop that is located there does HUGE business. Every time I go in there, GameStop is crowded. I have noticed that at this store in particular, the prices are $5-$10 higher on games (new and used) than the prices listed on the GameStop website and at the 2 other locations that I sometimes shop at. The reason why I go this GameStop is because it is more or less on my way home from work. The other 2 GameStops that I go to are in my neighborhood in NE Philly (Mayfair Shopping Center and Bustleton & Cottman). Those stores have the same prices as listed on the website and sometimes they are cheaper!

Wooly427 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 25, 2003, 04:53:32 AM »

Have any of you guys tried the Four Swords on Zelda for GBA? Can you play it all on the same screen with 4 controllers too?

DRJ · « **Reply #62 on:** June 25, 2003, 04:59:08 AM »

Its all about supply and demand. If the store can get more money for their items, more power to them. If people dont take the time to shop around oh well. Now in the case of pre-ordering and then having the price change above the msrp is complete bs.

But games are priced differently depending on where you go. I saw home run king at Toys R Us for $30 and best buy has them for $8.95. I cant really complain to Toys R Us for over charging, I just wouldnt buy from them.

As for Gamestop they seem very high to me anyways. I see Metroid Prime for $50, well ok, but it is used for $44.95, whats up with this I can save $5 for a used scratched up copy? ooooh. I go to Dimple Records now for used games since theya are in the $20 range.

Also if you are buying new items you can get $5 off at best buy for anything over $20. Just look for the Gamers Gift Cards. They are gift cards with a $5 coupon off any game or accessory (Gamecube, Xbox, PS1/2 etc). Just buy it and put $10 on it then spend it (since the ammount you buy it for is just on the card) and save $5. Its not much savings, but every little bit counts.

Ms.Pikmin · « **Reply #63 on:** June 25, 2003, 06:03:10 AM »

I have also noticed that Gamestop can be priced higher than other stores. I was recently at our local mall where EB and Gamestop are at opposite ends. WarioWare was $30.00 at EB but at Gamestop it was $35.00. I asked the person working why it was more than at EB and he said the prices were set by Nintendo and that he doubted I saw it for less at EB (by the way, he was kind of a jerk). At that point I should have just left, but I wanted to get the game and I needed to write a check, which EB doesn't accept. I asked if they did competitive pricing and he said yes. I asked him to call EB and check their price. He did, and I was right. BTW, I am not trying to insinuate that all Gamestop employees are rude. I do go there sometimes and this was my first experience with someone rude. I have, however, seen many games that are priced significantly higher than at other stores.

Bloodworth · « **Reply #64 on:** June 25, 2003, 06:57:18 AM »

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Originally posted by: Wooly427
Have any of you guys tried the Four Swords on Zelda for GBA? Can you play it all on the same screen with 4 controllers too?

No, no. We've explained this very thoroughly. Multiplayer works exactly the same as it does on GBA (you need multiple systems for most games), and it will remain that way unless new games are specifically programmed for the Game Boy Player. The only games that you can use two controllers with are games that would have had both players sharing a Game Boy. All four controller slots behave as if they are controller one.

Round Eye · « **Reply #65 on:** June 25, 2003, 10:23:13 AM »

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Originally posted by: RickPowers
No, that's not true, and I've gone to great lengths to try to bring you all back down to reality. It's not going to happen, so PLEASE ... stop expecting it.

I really don't see the reason why they could not bring more multiplayer functionality. I realize the old/current games will not have this ability. For future games if the single cartridge is designed for it, why not?

The GC would still only be emulating one cartridge. I am sure Nintendo had the forsight to leave the door open in the hardware for more multiplayer development.

The GBP will open up another option menu for developers to put on their cartridge, count on it.

TheYoungerPlumber · « **Reply #66 on:** June 25, 2003, 11:16:49 AM »

Look, I made this very clear in my review, and Rick has been saying this much longer than I have: THE GAME BOY PLAYER IS NOT AN EMULATOR. It is actual GBA hardware. The game runs off of the one-inch peripheral, not the GameCube. The GameCube is simply used for its excellent input/outpout capabilities.

Yes, the GBP can access some special features the GameCube has to offer, but it would be pointless to make, in essence, a GameCube game on a GBA cart. The Game Boy Player still runs at the same resolution as a GBA. Some crazy split screen mode with GBA resolution would look pretty darn horrible. If the GBP is capable of treating each port as a seperate input, which is quite likely, we will see single-screen multiplayer if anything. Of course any serious single-screen multiplayer game will be designed for the GameCube and its higher resolution.

Round Eye · « **Reply #67 on:** June 25, 2003, 12:02:14 PM »

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Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
If the GBP is capable of treating each port as a seperate input, which is quite likely, we will see single-screen multiplayer if anything. Of course any serious single-screen multiplayer game will be designed for the GameCube and its higher resolution.

Exactly, that is all I meant. It would be ideal for fighting games, like SF Alpha. Just so you would not have to buy the extra cartridge...

hmmm...

Never mind ain't going to happen.

Bartman3010 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 25, 2003, 01:17:46 PM »

Well, okay, it could probably have a very bad split due to the fact being the normal screen is so tiny, I kinda forgot that...heh. Unless they were very very ti-- OKAY! Stop throwing rocks!

And besides, its cheaper to buy a brand new GBA game than to get a brand new GCN game, then again, these days, developers arent very creative, and we probably wont see a Single screen mini game for 4 players at all. Unless its from Nintendo.

Bloodworth, it should be irrelevent that the Game Boy Player reckonizes all 4 ports as the same controller, some specifically designed games can tell the system otherwise I'm sure.

Rhoq · « **Reply #69 on:** June 26, 2003, 04:36:24 AM »

OK, I bought the GameBoy Player last night along with Super Mario Bros. DX for the GameBoy Color. The game looks great on the TV, but I do have a question...

When trying Super Mario Bros. DX out, I noticed that if I push up on the either the D-Pad or the Analog Stick there is some kind of scrolling, where the the game screen moves up , cutting off the bottom inch or so of the screen (the ground that Mario walks on, enemies, etc.). If I push down, the screen returns to the original position. Also, if I press X or Y (select) - it does a weird scrolling where it jumps an inch to the right or left.

While I am not really concerned about the X and Y scrolling, I am concerned about what happens when I push up on the controller, since it affects the play area. What I would like to know is: Is this a problem with the GameBoy Player or is this the way Super Mario Bros. DX was designed? When played on the GameBoy Color or GameBoy Advance, does the same thing happen when you press up on the D-Pad?

HolyPaladin · « **Reply #70 on:** June 26, 2003, 05:19:26 AM »

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Originally posted by: Rhoq
OK, I bought the GameBoy Player last night along with Super Mario Bros. DX for the GameBoy Color. The game looks great on the TV, but I do have a question...

When trying Super Mario Bros. DX out, I noticed that if I push up on the either the D-Pad or the Analog Stick there is some kind of scrolling, where the the game screen moves up , cutting off the bottom inch or so of the screen (the ground that Mario walks on, enemies, etc.). If I push down, the screen returns to the original position. Also, if I press X or Y (select) - it does a weird scrolling where it jumps an inch to the right or left.

While I am not really concerned about the X and Y scrolling, I am concerned about what happens when I push up on the controller, since it affects the play area. What I would like to know is: Is this a problem with the GameBoy Player or is this the way Super Mario Bros. DX was designed? When played on the GameBoy Color or GameBoy Advance, does the same thing happen when you press up on the D-Pad?

I haven't played that particular game, but it sounds to me like something programmed into it. I have played a few games before that made it possible to deliberately scroll the screen this way or that, mainly up and down, to see farther into that direction. Howeverm I never have really used my GB Player, yet, since I still have my nose buried in Mega Man: Network Transmission. I mean to get back to some GBA games after finishing this GCN game, probably.

DRJ · « **Reply #71 on:** June 26, 2003, 06:03:18 AM »

Pressing up just makes Mario look up and the screen scrolls upward to show more of the area. So far I have tried Zelda Four Swords and Metroid Fusion on my GBP and they both look great. Plus I like being able to hear the sound through my speakers. If you havnt picked up this system yet go get one now, it is great.

Rhoq · « **Reply #72 on:** June 26, 2003, 07:19:47 AM »

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Originally posted by: DRJ
Pressing up just makes Mario look up and the screen scrolls upward to show more of the area. So far I have tried Zelda Four Swords and Metroid Fusion on my GBP and they both look great. Plus I like being able to hear the sound through my speakers. If you havnt picked up this system yet go get one now, it is great.

Cool. What's frustrating is that when it scrolls up, a crucial part of the playing area disappears. It's a bit frustrating. I take it that it's the exact same way when played on the GBC or GBA and not just something the GBP is doing to the game?

Other than that, I think the game looks just as good with the GBP as the original did on the NES

DRJ · « **Reply #73 on:** June 26, 2003, 08:00:43 AM »

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I take it that it's the exact same way when played on the GBC or GBA and not just something the GBP is doing to the game?

The GBP is the same thing as a GBA. Same hardware etc. So it doesnt really do anything new except output the audio/video differently.

I guess your just supposed to look up to see what is going on and then go back to the normal view. If you see something at the very top of the screen this will let you have a better look at what you are dealing with.

Bartman3010 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 26, 2003, 10:01:50 AM »

Super Mario Bros. DX always had the function to move the screen up and down. Reason why is that the screen is SMALL!

Though I do kinda wish for a Super Mario Advance 5 - Super Mario Bros.

Oh, if you press Select the screen shifts directly behind Mario.

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