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With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« on: January 17, 2014, 06:58:54 PM »

Slashing projections and talking up changing business structures add up rough days ahead.

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The idea of 9 million Wii Us being sold in the current fiscal year, which began back in April 2013 and ends March 31, 2014, was a joke back when Nintendo stuck by it after the Wii U didn't touch 500,000 units worldwide in the first half of the year. Well, it's no laughing matter for damn sure right now.

Early this morning, Satoru Iwata announced that the projected amount of Wii Us sold worldwide is being trimmed to just 31% of the original projection. That's a disparity of 6.2 million systems. Nintendo expects to sell 2.8 million Wii Us in the current fiscal year ending this March.

Hoo boy, that's rather poor. To compare, the PlayStation 4 sold 4.2 million units in 6 weeks and the Xbox One sold 3 million units in 5 weeks. The Wii U, according to estimates, sold somewhere between 800,000 and 900,000 units from October to December in North America, and likely somewhere in the ball park of 1.25 and 2 million units worldwide over that three-month period. If all of this continues at the same pace, PS4 and Xbox One will outsell the Wii U by the end of the March at the latest.

Nintendo isn't doomed. They're not going to close up shop. The Wii U, though, is flopping hard. December 2013 was its best sales month to date, but it's still small potatoes to basically every game system except the Vita. Who knows what the future will hold. At the press conference today, Iwata said "We are thinking about a new business structure. Given the expansion of smart devices, we are naturally studying how smart devices can be used to grow the game-player business. It's not as simple as enabling Mario to move on a smartphone."

The cape feather in Nintendo's cap, the 3DS, was the best-selling console in North America in 2013. High five, right? Not quite. While the 3DS is doing well, take note of something else in Nintendo's recent adjusted projections. The 3DS' sales expectations were taken down from 18 million to 13.5 million, which is sizable reduction. Who knows why the forecast was cut, but I think there's a few reasons.

The 2DS didn't do as well as they hoped. If you notice, we haven't heard anything about how XX% of 3DS sales were 2DS systems like we did when the 3DS XL was a smashing success. Obviously 3DS systems are still selling well, but the 2DS looks like it didn't give the platform the shot in the arm it was expected to do.

Or maybe it's a little bit darker than that. Maybe Nintendo's expectations for the console and handheld space are unrealistic. Maybe there is some truth to the console industry as we know it declining.

Yes, the PS4 and Xbox One had fantastic launches, proving that the doom and gloom surrounding disappointing new console sales was only limited to the Wii U. However, Sony and Microsoft's actions show a different side of the story. Sony just announced PlayStation Now, a way to play PS1, PS2, and PS3 games on, eventually, nearly any TV, tablet, or mobile device. PlayStation Mobile, a platform for integrating mobile development with the PlayStation Network. Microsoft is, to a little less success than Sony, cultivating the Xbox One to have a similar interface as the one in Windows 8, Surfaces, and Windows Phones.

Nintendo doesn't have a platform like this. If Nintendo's consoles were to fail, which the Wii U is in the act of doing, then they don't have a publicly known fail-safe plan. They haven't cultivated any future-proofing concept that allows their work to easily carry on in another form.

I'm not saying Nintendo should port everything to mobile or tablets. I do think they need to have some back-up plan, which for all we know, they already do. If the Wii U were to go, what are their options? Make another system? Focus solely on handhelds? Go third party? Sony and Microsoft have other options. Sony could have their games exist through PlayStation Now. Microsoft could turn to focus on their grander media aspirations. Nintendo doesn't have that possibility, no matter what novel updates they added to Nintendo TVii since launch.

Whatever the company has up its sleeve, we'll likely see it this year. As he stated, Iwata isn't resigning and if he's true to his word, big changes could be on the horizon. Nintendo and its president will have to be agile this year and do things most Nintendo fans thought weren't possible five years ago. All we can do is watch their execution and hope it works out.

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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 08:33:19 PM »
"All we can do is watch their execution"

Are you referring to the Nintendo executive team?
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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 09:00:43 PM »
I think Nintendo will be fine. This article is a tad dramatic lol

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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 09:18:48 PM »
I think Nintendo will be fine. This article is a tad dramatic lol

I agree, besides, Nintendo always has the playing cards.

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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 09:35:59 PM »
I think Nintendo will be fine. This article is a tad dramatic lol

When you're cutting expectations for your main product by a quarter and your other one by 70%, a little drama is called for.
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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 10:37:21 PM »
I highly doubt that Sony and Microsoft's consoles will do much better in the coming year, honestly. They're more popular systems, but they're lacking games just as much as the Wii U was.

This is it, folks. This is the last Console generation. What Nintendo needs to do is stand firm and most certainly NOT go the way of tablets and phones, because they're the only ones still devoting their efforts to making dedicated gaming consoles.

I'm a bit surprised by the 3DS markdown, but let's be honest- they gambled on the 2DS and it didn't work. Serves them right. However, they still did fantastically in the handheld market and I think that's proof enough that handhelds still have life to them. However, I believe the 8th Generation of consoles will be the last. The new Sony and Microsoft consoles are built like PCs so they can handle multiplats, and the Wii U has no third party support because it's nothing like a PC. Even though that's how consoles should be.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 10:38:46 PM »
They should have never named it the WiiU.  Half of the people I talk to who loved the Wii have no clue there is even a new console and the other half are just confused about if it is a new system or some expensive tablet for the original Wii.

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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 11:18:15 PM »
As Shaymin said, there's a reason for drama. The problem is real. Iwata's admitting it. The company's admitting it.


You can totally go and ignore sales talk (Honestly? I would if I wasn't writing for this site), but denying the issue's severity is delusional.
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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 11:38:39 PM »
I still think Wii U will be fine. Nothing fancy but enough that a successor will launch in late 2016 at the earliest. Nintendo knows Wii U's shortcomings. Start building a better tomorrow now. It would benefit them greatly to open some new studios from the ground up across different regions. Additionally, if any company wants the security of being a second party, go for it.

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2014, 12:39:29 AM »
I just bought a Wii U. I guess I made a bad purchase if Nintendo really is thinking about abandoning the platform...

In all seriousness, all Nintendo needs to do is ramp up game developement and court more 3rd-party publishers. They're doing a good job with the indie teams, but something needs to be done to gain support from the big companies like EA, Bethesda, Rockstar, etc.

I'm loving my Wii U. Switching from the TV to the GamePad is the coolest thing I've ever seen; it's like that console / handheld hybrid that we've all been dreaming of. I guarantee Nintendo's next console will be an actual portable handheld that syncs to the TV.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2014, 01:00:19 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2014, 06:48:20 AM »
The 3DS slowdown could be seen as troubling, but doesn't its sales rate simply match the GBA's?  It appears the Nintendo DS and Wii were not the norm - they were the outliers from the usual trends.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2014, 08:45:13 AM »
Is anyone especially surprised that Wii U underperformed when the console's biggest title didn't hit until the middle to end of November? The Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, and The Wind Waker HD are nice titles to have, but they're supplementary and released in the latter half of the year.

People are acting like this is news when the appropriate reaction is, "Oh, right, right. Nintendo had no business launching a console in 2012 with what they had." I'm not justifying that or the poor overall sales; I simply don't understand the confusion. When Nintendo announced their sales projections, I don't think a single person thought they would come close to it. I suppose dropping projections so drastically is what people are gasping at. Even then, are we really surprised? When you have extremely lofty projections to begin with, of course the drop would be larger.

Again, I still think Wii U will move past this. 2014 will fare better. Nintendo already has a big title coming out next month. Who knows when the next one comes? Maybe Mario Kart 8 in May? They have a more evenly distributed release schedule and more major titles. Personally, I'm pretty happy with Wii U. Despite its general lack of titles, it still had more games that interested me than both Xbox One and Playstation 4 have combined. I realize I'm not in the majority here.

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2014, 01:07:08 PM »
Nintendo should just focus on handhelds, because that's where there strength currently is. I doubt they would ever develop games for PlayStation or Xbox. Exiting the home console market to focus on handhelds and mobile devices is their best bet.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2014, 01:11:14 PM »
I forgot to add, this whole situation is exactly like what Sony went through with the PS3. Sony managed to turn things around for the PS3, so why does no one think that Nintendo can do the same with the Wii U?
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 01:15:19 PM »
I forgot to add, this whole situation is exactly like what Sony went through with the PS3. Sony managed to turn things around for the PS3, so why does no one think that Nintendo can do the same with the Wii U?

Because Sony had more going for them with the PS3 than Nintendo does the Wii U. The situations are only superficially similar.
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Re: With Wii U's Failures, Nintendo Lacks a Fail-Safe
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 01:24:50 PM »
Nintendo can bounce back, but it's going to be rough.

They'll either need to abandon ship and develop a new console that people actually want to buy and developers actually want to make games for AND release it at the perfect time, or figure out a way to make people want the Wii U.

I'm sure the 2DS is the main reason for the 3DS projections dropping.  Nintendo didn't count on people not wanting that.  That's an honest mistake.  I think we still need to see if Xbox One and PS4 sales fall off before we can say if it's the market or the Wii U, but Nintendo needs to act like it's the Wii U because that's looking more likely.

Lindy made a good point on twitter about Nintendo missing out on the West's impact on gaming culture.  Nintendo, who increasingly can't rely on 3rd parties, needs to buy up some studios who can put those types of games (e.g., open world, FPS, etc) that the western market loves on the Wii U.  It's a costly, long term plan, but nobody's buying the Wii U for games not made by Nintendo anyway.  You buy those afterwards.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014, 01:34:19 PM »
You know, Nintendo's inevitable move to mobile gaming would work out well for them. They could just make a minigame collection. Kirby games are full of minigames that would translate well to mobile devices, especially the Scope Shot and Dojo games from 'Kirby Returns to Dreamland'. Super Mario 64 DS also has tons of minigames that could be ported to mobile devices, because they all relied on the touchscreen.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 02:03:55 PM »
Show me a company with Nintendo's revenues that only produces mobile games.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2014, 02:08:30 PM »
Did I say 'only mobile games'? No. I'm talking about them pursuing mobile gaming as a side project while they mainly focus on the 3DS and Wii U. Nintendo can make minigame collections for mobile devices as a way to entice players who love Nintendo's classic franchises. Plus it would be a great revenue stream for them while they get the Wii U situation sorted out.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2014, 02:11:44 PM »
Nintendo doesn't need to abandon Wii U and rush a new console to market. They just need to make Wii U not suck enough to get them to where they can comfortably release a successor (meaning not rushed in any way) then they can drop Wii U like Gameboy Advance. I think that's doable. Release some first party games and that's already more than half the battle.

Also, releasing Nintendo franchises on anything but Nintendo hardware is a disaster. That's sending the message that their first party games are available on other hardware. That's the last thing they should do.

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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2014, 02:23:59 PM »
OK I think you're missing my point. I'm talking about making MINIGAME collections for mobile devices, not full games. The minigames would allow Nintendo to reach out to a broader audience while keeping their main games exclusive to their consoles.

Look at all the minigames that were in Super Mario 64 DS and the various Kirby games. Those would be perfect for mobile devices because they are simple and easy to play. Even the Game & Watch games would be perfect on mobile devices.

Nintendo could release these minigame collections as a side project while they still focus on their 3DS and Wii U consoles.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2014, 03:14:12 PM »
The Wii U may be floundering, but I don't think Nintendo as a whole is in any trouble. Nintendo may do something like pursue smart devices just for some quick profit on the side, but I don't think they're going to abandon the Wii U or alter the course of the 3DS. Doing either would just make the situation worse. Hopefully, Nintendo haven't forgotten that one reason Sega left the console business is because they released too many systems in too short a time.

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2014, 03:17:01 PM »
Show me a company with Nintendo's revenues that only produces mobile games.


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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2014, 03:32:13 PM »
Show me a company with Nintendo's revenues that only produces mobile games.


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