Topic: "Game Boy is for 10-year-olds..."

[Cap]

i honestly think that nintendo should ride out the success of the gba until its possible for a portable gamecube, rather then making a gb based on the n64 hardware.  if nintendo goes with the gamecube hardware for their next gb, they would have an edge over every other competitor with a huge existing library of games(that wouldnt have to be ported to a new medium), and superior hardware.

sony will be in a position that the have never been in when they launch the psp, and thats launching against a hugely successful system. the ps came out at the end of the snes lifetime, and the ps2 made it out before both the gamecube and xbox.by the time the psp comes out, they will have a very hard time stealing marketshare becouse of the huge existing userbase, the large number of games, and great third party support that may not see a reason to develop for a new portable whoevers name may be on it(comparable to the postion the ps2 is in in the home market). sony did great with both the ps and ps2, but they have never launched against an existing user base before. i'm not saying that sony cant come in and take over(or at least steal some marketshare from nintendo), i just dont think that it will come as quick or easily as it did in the home market.  

[AgentSeven]

The Next GameBoy, or as one poster put it, "GameBoy Future" is rumored to be even more powerfull than even the N64.
Plus, with all of sony's stranglegold exclusivity deals with their third parties coming to an end, I doubt that psp will have any unique games what soever.  I can already see the psp lauch line-up, Crash Bandicoot 12, Gran Turismo 18, and so on.  As far as shallow, overly hyped ultra violent games, Nintendo will have those as well.  Rockstar games, the makers of GTA, has openly expressed their disgust over their dealings with sony.  So it looks like GTA GC is on its way, with possible handheld versions to follow.

psp doesn't have a chance.  It's an over-priced, over-hyped, over-sized peice of electronic junk.  Plus it's made by sony, the kings of faulty hardware.  This thing uses an optical disc format, meaning that just like the PSX and the Ps2 before it, the system will probably start skipping and showing "disc read errors" soon after your warranty expires.  Everyone who has owned a sony system, or knows someone who does, knows exactly what Im talking about.  
 

[blu knight]

I'm not against the idea of multiple handheld consoles but I don't understand how it will be possible for systems like the PSP and N-gage to successfully compete directly with the GBA.  Look at systems like the wounderswan and NeoGeo pocket, both had only moderate success(in Japan at that) when competing against the likes of Gameboy color.  I hate to write off a console before launch but to say that either PSP or N-gage will topple the GBA is too strong a statement right now.  Surely both systems will sport enhanced 3D graphics and online capabilities which cannot be had on the GBA.  But Nintendo still hasn't realized the full potential of the GC/GBA/GB player connection technology either, and once they do owners of these systems will have less reasons to go buy Sony or Nokia's offerings.  I am intersted in the PSP(not so much the N-gage)but the price tag and batterylife are big issues with handheld systems.

Hey anybody know if Nintendo loses any money on the GBAsp hardware and if so how much?

[Blackfire]

Why would anyone want to go online with a portable gaming system (is that even possible?). No handheld competitor has come even close to beating the GB in sales, but times are changing and new hardware is developing. As cool as the WonderSwan and Neo Geo Pocket Color are, they were no match for the GB.

Now I am almost POSITIVE on this, the N-Gage is going to fail. Who wants to develop games for a crappy cell phone company? Who does Nokia even have on their side? This is their first console, what do they know about REAL gaming?

The PSP is going to have many devlopers on their side despite what anyone says. We all know for a fact most publishers that work for GB are going to publish titles for both systems, even though Nintendo will get the good exclusives like Zelda and Mario. Sony will most likely have a GTA game on the PSP guarenteed, it made the PS2 and it would be stupid if it wasnt on their handheld console.

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psp doesn't have a chance. It's an over-priced, over-hyped, over-sized peice of electronic junk. Plus it's made by sony, the kings of faulty hardware. This thing uses an optical disc format, meaning that just like the PSX and the Ps2 before it, the system will probably start skipping and showing "disc read errors" soon after your warranty expires. Everyone who has owned a sony system, or knows someone who does, knows exactly what Im talking about.

Why wouldnt the PSP have a chance? Over priced? Do you know the official price? If so please tell me I'd love to know. Over hyped? Has there even been commercials and adds? Over sized? Have you seen it yet? If so I'd love to see a picture. Kings of faulty hardware huh? I've had my PSX for atleast 3 years and it still runs and looks new, even after its been thrown in backpacks slammed on the grown and lugged over to friends houses.

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Plus, with all of sony's stranglegold exclusivity deals with their third parties coming to an end, I doubt that psp will have any unique games what soever. I can already see the psp lauch line-up, Crash Bandicoot 12, Gran Turismo 18, and so on. As far as shallow, overly hyped ultra violent games, Nintendo will have those as well. Rockstar games, the makers of GTA, has openly expressed their disgust over their dealings with sony. So it looks like GTA GC is on its way, with possible handheld versions to follow.

Sonys exclusive deals are coming to an end? What makes you so sure that the parties wont devlop exclusivly for the best selling console? I also highly doubt Nintendo will have any"overly hyped ultra violent games" If Rockstar is so disgusted with Sony then why do they continue to make other games such as Midnight Club? GTA isnt the only game you make ya know.


My point is nobody should be slamming on any consoles until we know facts (flaming of the N-gage is ok because its an accident waiting to happen). You have seen the Playstations success even when the N64 had better hardware, you see now the PS2 is the best selling console with many exclusive games, so what makes you so sure that the PSP is going to be gigantic failure?

[kennyb27]

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Why would anyone want to go online with a portable gaming system (is that even possible?)

Sure its possible.  It wouldn't be very portable then though.  And if they put wireless internet capabilities into the system, the price would probably skyrocket.

[AgentSeven]

Forgive me for saying this Blackfire, as I don't mean to flame, but truthfully you seem like an uninformed gamer.  PSX and Ps2 are the most defective, faulty, poorly constructed game systems EVER MADE!  Do your homework before you post.
I can point you to over a dozen consumer advocacy groups that list real consumer complaints reguarding all of sony's poorly made products.  Sony likes to call this style of manufacturing "planned obsolecense."  Meaning that when you warranty dies, so does your system.

By the way, didn't you used to be called "Nintendo Kid?"  I though you just said that you got rid of your GC for a ps2?  Yet in this post, you only mention owning a PSX.  After reading your other posts, I must say, you lack credibility.

As for the psp price, its common knowledge that the system will cost over $200 US.  Also a case of you not doing your homework.  Look around and you will find many sites with information that back up this fact.

Finally, just by reading the specs for the machine and seeing the mini-disc that Ken kuturagi showed at E3, you know the psp can not be small.  There's just no way.  I bet this things bigger than a GameGear, and just as much of a failure, if not more so.  As I said before, psp doesn't have a chance.

[Blackfire]

" Forgive me for saying this Blackfire, as I don't mean to flame, but truthfully you seem like an uninformed gamer. PSX and Ps2 are the most defective, faulty, poorly constructed game systems EVER MADE! Do your homework before you post."

I have not had any problems with my Sony systems, nor have my friends.

"By the way, didn't you used to be called "Nintendo Kid?" I though you just said that you got rid of your GC for a ps2? Yet in this post, you only mention owning a PSX. After reading your other posts, I must say, you lack credibility."

Apparently you can't read, I clearly said I gave my GC too my little sister so I can get a PS2, if you want to know every system I own, I own a Game Boy Pocket, PSX, NES, and PS2.

"As for the psp price, its common knowledge that the system will cost over $200 US. Also a case of you not doing your homework. Look around and you will find many sites with information that back up this fact."

Common knoweledge? So you just know the price is going to be $200, do you know that for a fact? Nope. Do you think Sony is going to release a handheld system for more then their gaming console sells for? Use your head.

"Finally, just by reading the specs for the machine and seeing the mini-disc that Ken kuturagi showed at E3, you know the psp can not be small. There's just no way. I bet this things bigger than a GameGear, and just as much of a failure, if not more so. As I said before, psp doesn't have a chance. "

And whys that? There are computer chips the size of a fingernail that can process billions of actions per second. Theres chips that can make blind people see, so why cant the system be small? Your not really stating any realistic facts, your opinion is PSP SUCKS AND THATS THAT. The PSP can suck of course, but it can also be good. As I have said before Sony has yet to meet failure.

[Ms.Pikmin]

nonjagged, sorry if I misunderstood your joke.  It seemed clearly aimed at my post, but then again,  one problem with message boards is not always being able to accurately gage  what someone is implying.  

[AgentSeven]

I'm sorry blackfire, but your beating a dead horse.  Almost every financial news website, that covered the psp announcement, estimate the psp price tage at $160-$200.  Even if it's $160, with tax that still puts the price tag at around $200.

Also with a proposed 4.5 screen, this system is already bigger than the original GBA.  The mini DVD alone is bigger than my GBA:SP when it's closed.  Common sense.

As for sony's lack of technical quality, this is a WELL DOCUMENTED FACT.  I truly think you are in denial about this FACT, and that your rabid fan-boyism refuses to let you admit this FACT.

Here's a couple of links.  I'm not trying to flame sony, it just seems that their systems are junk and they don't care about ripping people off.  That really get's me steamed, when giant evil corporations essentially say "screw you" to the consumer.

http://www.turnto10.com/consumerunit/1868407/detail.html

http://www.recallannouncements.com/your_voice/articles/

These are just a couple of sites.  I can provide dozens more.

So in the end, psp will probably be the same faulty garbage that the psx and the ps2 were.  Also, regurdless of chip size, with the 4.5 inch screen and the mini-dvd, the systems already bigger than the original gba.  This, in my opinon, makes the system too large.  I wan't something that I can put in my pocket, and a system that plays great games.  Not a wanna-be mini-dvd player.

Oh and by the way, I can read.  Here's what you had to say about the ps2 you bought.  This was posted in your epic, flame bait thread entitled "bye,bye gamecube."

quote "Today I gave my Gamecube and Animal Crossing to my little sister. I took my 12 other games + the N64 and a few N64 games we had and sold them at GameStop for a brand new PS2. For about $80 I bought a PS2+Broad band adapter, SOCOM, GTA III, and Midnight Club Street Racing. My GameCube just couldnt satisfy my gaming needs," end quote

Then in another of your threads you posted -quote " so I was going to pick up a cheapy PS2 game maybe FF7, and a GBA, maybe SP if I have enough."

God, I love that line about about "your gaming needs" lmao    

[nonjagged]

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Originally posted by: blu knight
I'm not against the idea of multiple handheld consoles but I don't understand how it will be possible for systems like the PSP and N-gage to successfully compete directly with the GBA.  Look at systems like the wounderswan and NeoGeo pocket, both had only moderate success(in Japan at that) when competing against the likes of Gameboy color.  I hate to write off a console before launch but to say that either PSP or N-gage will topple the GBA is too strong a statement right now.  Surely both systems will sport enhanced 3D graphics and online capabilities which cannot be had on the GBA.  But Nintendo still hasn't realized the full potential of the GC/GBA/GB player connection technology either, and once they do owners of these systems will have less reasons to go buy Sony or Nokia's offerings.  I am intersted in the PSP(not so much the N-gage)but the price tag and batterylife are big issues with handheld systems.

Hey anybody know if Nintendo loses any money on the GBAsp hardware and if so how much?

In my opinion Nintendo are no way making losses on GBA. It was built with plastic casing and no in-built audio plug fo ra reason. Big N have made a killing on it and all the huge profits are going into the next-gen handheld.

As to your post, thats some common sense reporting there, which I agree to.
PS: I did report that $ony has made a statement that PSP will NOT be expensive because it will be using ps2 chips in it which are already in production, already have production lines.
Sure it will be more expensive than GBA SP by the time this bohemoth of a handheld comes out in late 2004 (by then the SP will be soooo cheap) but even the PSP features of built-in digital camera and allwoing gamers to do face-mapping in GTA game PSP software will be a huge drawcard for the major gaming market being in my opinion well-off mainstreamers, who dont give a hoot about dodgy technological products $ony is known for.
In my opinion the PSP will probably more compliment the PSX $ony server due late 2004 and the PSP will be more of a PDA for the PSX $ony server.

Thats why M$ is not competing and working on a handheld. Becuase the ps2 has embarressed M$ to the point where M$ are mentally scarred and too scared to launch any other risky gaming ventures because M$ must recoup the billion$ it has lost on the box version 1 before it "will arrogantly claim" they are here to win the war.

On the other hand $ony is out for the IT yuppy-mainstreamers while Nintendo will stick with gaming-only markets.
I think there are markets for everyone. Just if only M$ and N0kia try crawling back under their rocks before they make idiotic public announcements, they should at least be in the position where they can make the statements, which clearly they are not.

Oh and remeber the hype $ony created about the PS3 and the IBM Cell chip? Well $ony have announced that the Cell chip wont be ready before 2007 (i believe) meaning the PS3 will not be the Cell System, it will be the Bombed-Out System, now that M$ has copied Nintendo and gone with ATI for the Xbox2. First $ony copied Nintendo by getting IBM to do CPU chips and now M$ have copied Nintendo by getting ATI to do GPU chips.

Which furthermore streangthens my case that Nintendo is always one generation ahead of any competion that comes and goes but for a new-age surprise it appears GCN2 will be the first console to launch during the net-gen which is a total surprise.

GCN2 must indeed be the best console ever made (as some reports have claimed will be) if Nintendo arent even waiting to see what Nintendo-copied-architecture the competition will be using.

</end taking a skull hammer onto thy competition>

[tech9]

  The statements made in that gamespot story are laughable.

 Im 31. Im a onsite network/pc technician. Playing games on my cell phone is not an option for me. My cell phone is used for one thing and that is making money by taking care of customers and lining up new clients.

 I dont need a dead battery or worn out buttons (from all the gaming) on a device that i rely on to make a living.

 Are they actually pitching this nokia n gauge to business people (in which case it would surely flop) or are they trying to get  teen age boys and girls (no offense to the teens on here)  who are signed up on mom and dads family plan? My guess they are hoping to get both markets cornered, which in that case they are in for a rude awakening.

 As the previous posters stated, this is a gaming device first and a phone (and a damn poor one at that) second.

 Again im 31 and dont have any problem playing my GBA in public places in between work or at jobsites if im not busy.

 This statement from nokia is nothing more than a poor and might i add..DESPERATE sales pitch, and the Nguage should be left to the model railroading hobby, or it can join the long list of wannabe competitors that have tried to dethrone the GB/GBC/and GBA so many times before.

  Nothing more than hot air!!

  mark

[Blackfire]

AgentSeven I'm not even going to argue with you. Your bringing me down to your level and whooping my @$$ with stupidity. Your comments make no sense. Your just Nintendo "fanboy" with the thought NINTENDO RULES SONY SUCKS THATS IT stuck in your head. Well answer me this, the PSX was #1 in sales, PS2 is #1 in sales, so why would the PSP be a complete failure? Because its made by Sony? Sony makes some of the best electronics around. And those links you provided are complete BS. EVERY console can break, if you take care of it properly it can last you a lifetime, and I can prove that with the NES I still have since I was 4.

[Uglydot]

My first gen PSX is still working, never seen a ps2 in this area break.  Seen 2 n64s bite the dust.   NITNENDO MAKES TEH CRAP0!

[AgentSeven]

Bringing you down to my level?  Excuse me?  You are the one who is posting "flame bait threads" about systems you don't even own. LOL!  

Also I'm whooping you "butt" with knowledge and FACTS, something you cant seem to handle, or even respond too.

As for my links being b.s., I have HUNDREDS more.  Are they all b.s. as well?  All of these people can't be lying can they.

Again, sony makes the worst garbage on the market.  Period.  If you wan't me to provide more proof, just let me know, as I relish ANY oppotunity to spread the word on this evil corporation.

No you may have noticed that I hate sony.  This is %100 true.  However, I'm not totally loyal to Nintendo.  I also love my X-box, my Sega Dreamcast (and every other Sega System), my original Atari 2600, which still funtions after 20 years, my Neo Geo AVS+Neo Pocket, and the PC.  I just love gaming.  

When sony entered the scene, I was really excited.  In fact I even got a job with them just as the PSX was about to release.  It was through working for them, and seeing their evil first hand, that I developed my hatred of this corrupt, greedy, money hungry corporation.  They don't give a crap about quality, only money.

By the way, no one takes better care of their systems than I do.  I own over 30 game systems! I've been an avid game collector for the past 10 years.  I have over 300 Atari-2600 games alone!  Every one of my systems works flawlessly , with the exception of my original psx, which is a poorly built peice of junk, pretty much like every thing else sony makes.

Good Day

[AgentSeven]

Bringing you down to my level?  Excuse me?  You are the one who is posting "flame bait threads" about systems you don't even own. LOL!  

Also I'm whooping you "butt" with knowledge and FACTS, something you cant seem to handle, or even respond too.

As for my links being b.s., I have HUNDREDS more.  Are they all b.s. as well?  All of these people can't be lying can they.

Again, sony makes the worst garbage on the market.  Period.  If you wan't me to provide more proof, just let me know, as I relish ANY oppotunity to spread the word on this evil corporation.

No you may have noticed that I hate sony.  This is %100 true.  However, I'm not totally loyal to Nintendo.  I also love my X-box, my Sega Dreamcast (and every other Sega System), my original Atari 2600, which still funtions after 20 years, my Neo Geo AVS+Neo Pocket, and the PC.  I just love gaming.  

When sony entered the scene, I was really excited.  In fact I even got a job with them just as the PSX was about to release.  It was through working for them, and seeing their evil first hand, that I developed my hatred of this corrupt, greedy, money hungry corporation.  They don't give a crap about quality, only money.

By the way, no one takes better care of their systems than I do.  I own over 30 game systems! I've been an avid game collector for the past 10 years.  I have over 300 Atari-2600 games alone!  Every one of my systems works flawlessly , with the exception of my original psx, which is a poorly built peice of junk, pretty much like every thing else sony makes.

Back to topic, the intelligent post made by Tech 9 says it all.  It's one of the best posts in this thread.

[blu knight]

I'm with you on that one tech, Nokia must realize the negative hype they've been getting around this system since its introduction.  Even the most liberal gaming websites and magazines have showed a silent disinterest in the N-gage.  Thats why I'm almost positive that they'll clean up some of its most glaring faults(price tag, screen size, taco shape)before the N-gage is launched because it would be stupid not to.   The comments made by the Nokia rep obviously means that the N-gage is going to compete directly with the GBA; which, as I stated in previous post, will send the N-gage straight to hell.  If it was marketed as the super advanced technological wonder that "oh, just so happens to play 3-d games" then they could garner interest from cell phone users and young gamers alike, but at this point who knows what they'll do.

[Blackfire]

Ok AgentSeven, your 5 year old mind cant handle certain concepts, so let me break it down for you EASY.

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Also I'm whooping you "butt" with knowledge and FACTS, something you cant seem to handle, or even respond too.

You have yet to prove an actualy fact. In your opinion Sony sucks, who cares about your opinion? If Sony sucks so much, please explain how they are #1 in sales. Sony makes a crappy product? Why because your Sony systems broke? I suggest you take better care, my Sony electronics work perfectly fine and have been for years. So wheres the fact?

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As for my links being b.s., I have HUNDREDS more. Are they all b.s. as well? All of these people can't be lying can they.

Once again you get FACT and OPINION confused. My Sony electronics serve me well, hence Sony makes a good product. Here maybe you will understand this, FACT - 1+1=2  Opinion - Oranges taste better then apples. See you can have an arguement over an opinion, not over a fact.

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Again, sony makes the worst garbage on the market. Period. If you wan't me to provide more proof, just let me know, as I relish ANY oppotunity to spread the word on this evil corporation.

Worst garbage on the market, yet they are number 1 in sales hmm...

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When sony entered the scene, I was really excited. In fact I even got a job with them just as the PSX was about to release. It was through working for them, and seeing their evil first hand, that I developed my hatred of this corrupt, greedy, money hungry corporation. They don't give a crap about quality, only money.

I really could careless if Sony only cared about preserving water, let alone money. They make a good console with great games that make me happy and provide me with tons of fun. Your OPINION is they are a corrupt,greedy,money hungry coporation, FACT is your describing Microsoft

So you see you have yet to prove a solid fact about Sony and you dont answer any of my questions, you just avoid them. If sony sucks so much why are they #1 in sales? Seriously I really want to know because Sony sucks right? They suck so much they are #1 in sales.

[AgentSeven]

I have proven everything that I have previously stated.  Plus I backed them up with SOLID FACTS.  Your the only one here who has a problem with the TRUTH.

Also I didn't have to resort to childish flaming, or lies, like yourself.  Need I quote some of your other threads?  Oh wait, I already proved you were a liar earlier in this topic.

sony may be number #1, but they don't make the most money on systems or games, Nintendo does.  Plus Nintendo fans buy more games per system.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, no one takes better care of their systems than me.  I still own my original Atari 2600, a system that is older than you are.  Obviously, you never even read my thread.  sony makes JUNK. Period.

Here are some more links to people who reported serious complaints with sony's electronic garbage

http://www.minidisc.org/sony_carmdletter.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/sony.htm (a govt. website)

http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000040.html

http://web2.iadfw.net/bcunning/sonysux.htm

http://www.turnto10.com/consumerunit/1868407/detail.html

http://www.recallannouncements.com/your_voice/articles/


The list goes on and on and on...... Apparently you are the only on here who is affraid of the truth.  sony makes junk consoles and their own first party software is a joke, with a few notable exceptions.

I think your just angry because I have repeatedly made you look foolish.  Pretty good for a person with a "5 year old mind."  LMAO  By the way, as a game collector, I have game systems that are older than you are, lol.

 

[Blackfire]

Ah, my mistake AgentSeven. When I said you had the mind of a 5 year old, I should have put 3 year old. Let me break it down AGAIN because you just can seem to UNDERSTAND anything at all.

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I have proven everything that I have previously stated. Plus I backed them up with SOLID FACTS. Your the only one here who has a problem with the TRUTH.

What have you proved? You dont like Sony? Wow...you haven't backed up anything with "SOLID FACTS", and what "TRUTH" are you talking about? 3 Year old kids cant seem to make sense

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Also I didn't have to resort to childish flaming, or lies, like yourself. Need I quote some of your other threads? Oh wait, I already proved you were a liar earlier in this topic.

I didnt flame (whatever that is) or lie, everything I said was truthfull and please quote some of my other threads, I back them up 100%.

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sony may be number #1, but they don't make the most money on systems or games, Nintendo does. Plus Nintendo fans buy more games per system.

You know nothing. Absolutly nothing. Sony makes more money the Nintendo PERIOD. Sony doesnt just make consoles ya know. See, theres this thing called a TELEVISION you might have one since you own a GameCube. Anyway Sony makes those, along with high quality speakers, sterios, computers, and tons of electronics. They dont make money off games since they dont develop their own, but they do make tons off the system, and by being #1 in sales im pretty sure they make a hefty profit.

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I've said it before, and I will say it again, no one takes better care of their systems than me. I still own my original Atari 2600, a system that is older than you are. Obviously, you never even read my thread. sony makes JUNK. Period.

Good for  your taking care of your system, the child is growin up! Good little boy, want some cookies and milk? I didnt read your thread because its full of nonsense. Your just another nintendo fanboy who needs to open his eyes and look around. If Sony makes junk, then Junk is #1, what would that make Nintendo?

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I think your just angry because I have repeatedly made you look foolish. Pretty good for a person with a "5 year old mind." LMAO By the way, as a game collector, I have game systems that are older than you are, lol

Hehe this made me laugh (gotta love the intelligence of dumb people) You made me look foolish huh. Thats why you havent answered my questions and havent proved a solid fact yet. You have game systems older then me, wow, I have nickels and pennies older then you.

Your next post please post something worth reading, not your usual crap about how sony makes bad products because they dont. Each time you say that I just go to the truthfull fact about how they are #1 in sales and make you look even more stupid then you already are. Atleast make an attempt to prove me wrong, your doing a horrible job.  

[AgentSeven]

*Sigh*, this is getting boring kid.  Seriously.  

I have proven that there are a LARGE NUMBER of complaints against sony and it's products.  In the links I provided you can find literally hundreds of real complaints made by consumers.  All of this is fact.  you didn't even check the links, so how can you say they are false.

Of course sony makes more money than Nintendo.  They are a billion dollar internation company that owns a movie studio and is one of the biggest electronics manufacturers in the world.  All Nintendo makes is great systems and great games.
However when it comes to just video games, Nintendo makes more money. Period.  Your ignorance of this fact shows just how uninformed you might be.  Don't believe me about this fact?  Ask someone on this site.

Finally, I've also proven that you've lied in you previous posts, and contradicted yourself on many occasions.  What is your response to this?  Childish name calling and rabid, hysterical flaming.

Give it a rest because your starting to look like a fool.

By the way, did I mention the fact that sony products are junk?  Check the links...

 

[RickPowers]

I'm locking this pointless flaming.  You guys can all thank Blackfire.