Author Topic: Final Fantasy (Read 20371 times)

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2003, 03:49:34 PM »

I just read on IGN, that the Japanese version WILL infact need 4 GBA's to play the games multiplayer mode, all equipped with th GBA-GC link cable of course. The US release is only a couple months away, so don't expect any changes. Oh ya, they also said it ships with a free GBA to GC link cable! YAY! Damn it square...

greenwisher · « **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2003, 06:13:28 PM »

I recently sent a letter to nintendo regarding the gba requirements for ffcc. Needless to say I don't think it'll change thier mind, but i'm just so "seriously miffed" about the whole idea that I had to send them a letter. I even considered starting a grass roots e-mail to nintendo. I would have also sent it to square but have been unable to find the offical site. If anyone has seen it please post and let me know. Here is a copy of my letter and nintendo's response:
Greetings Nintendo,
I am a avid fan of the your company and all it's
innovative products. I have been eagerly awaiting the
latest installment of the final fantasy series coming
to the gamecube. After reading reviews and news from
the recent E3 conference I was very concerned over the
multiplayer aspects of ff crystal chronicles. More
specifically, the requirement of a gameboy advanced
for multiplayer gaming.
I believe the review stated that the game requires
players to use the gameboy advanced to access the
multiplayer game. This requirement is a very expensive
and limiting constraint that may affect my choice to
purchase the game. I enjoy playing multiplayer games
on my gamecube, however I do not currently own a
gameboy advanced.
While I understand that this feature is intended to
"enhance" the game, I feel that this also seriously
limits gameplay as a major aspect of the game will not
be accessible without a gameboy advanced. Essentially,
this would not "enhance" the gameplay as it does for
other games such as Splinter Cell and Zelda.
In some ways, I (and a number of my friends who own
gamecubes) feel this limitation on gameplay would be a
further departure from our "gaming demographic." We
are working professionals (and lifelong gamers) who do
not have a need for a gameboy advanced, as we do not
have time for gaming while away from home. I hope this
is not a trend that will further limit future titles
available for multiplayer games. I have had a number
of friends recently sell their gamecubes, looking to
competing companies for their large selection of
third-party games. To an avid and outspoken Nintendo
enthusiast this is very disappointing.
I am writing this letter in the hopes that you will
seriously reconsider the system requirements for this
particular title. With the limited number of
multiplayer role-playing games available for the
gamecube, I have been eagerly awaiting this title for
sometime. It would be very disappointing to have
another title that I may not be able to play.
I have found that Nintendo tends to be a very
thoughtful company with innovative products and ideas.
I feel that my thoughts reflect a number of
individuals and hope that my letter is seriously
considered.

Response:
Thank you for your e-mail. We appreciate your feedback regarding the
multi-player capabilities of Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles. I am
going to forward you comments along to the appropriate departments here
at Nintendo for further review.
wow, great....

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #27 on:** July 09, 2003, 12:06:16 AM »

Man, I can't believe people are still whining about needing a GBA to play multiplayer in Final Fantasy CC. I don't recall anyone complaining about needing a GBA to use the Tingle Tuner, or needing an adaptor to play 3 player Secret of Mana, or needing to buy a modem and an internet connection to play Phantasy Star Online.

Christ people, wisen up.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #28 on:** July 09, 2003, 01:43:30 AM »

I want to clarify this: if you play CC by yourself, there will be only one member in your party, throughout the game, right?

Ymeegod · « **Reply #29 on:** July 09, 2003, 03:21:58 AM »

FFXII & FFXIII is going be PS2 exclusive, this was announced after FFCC. Hopefully FFXII will redeem square after that FFX2 crap.

As for FFCC, there's not going be any friendly AI, so no squadmates. Was kinda dissappointed with that news myself, was hoping for KH type of combat.

FFCC comes out in August for Japan, think it was delayed until the 21st? So I expect more info soon.

Gup · « **Reply #30 on:** July 09, 2003, 07:17:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ymeegod
As for FFCC, there's not going be any friendly AI, so no squadmates. Was kinda dissappointed with that news myself, was hoping for KH type of combat.

Kingdom Heart was such craptacular game. After an hour of repetitive combat and boring storyline, I shipped it backed to Blockbuster. The main reason why I played was because I wanted to see some Cloud and Sephiroth, but then I just used the internet for pics.

DRJ · « **Reply #31 on:** July 09, 2003, 08:07:05 AM »

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I don't recall anyone complaining about needing a GBA to use the Tingle Tuner

The Tingle Tuner turned out to be a nice idea, I liked it, but the bottom line is that you dont need to have it to enjoy the game. Now as for the FF:CC requirement, I dont like that it is mandatory. For me, I already have 5 GBA in my house, with me and my brothers, so all I would need are some extra link cables. I think this should be something that enhances the game, If you have it, then you have something extra to enjoy, but if you dont have it you should not have to miss out on the game, and you should not have to spend 100s of dollars on equipment.

People will probably say, well if you dont have the equipment dont play the game. But I just think that this will limit sales of the game. I just dont like being forced to do something that will cost me more money. For example online games: I dont want a game that has to be played online, and I have to pay a fee. I like Diablo II and Warcraft III because I can play them offline if I want, Online if I want etc. It should be the same way with GBA connectivity. Use it if you want, dont use it if you want, do whatever you want.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #32 on:** July 09, 2003, 08:48:42 AM »

"I don't recall anyone complaining about needing a GBA to use the Tingle Tuner, or needing an adaptor to play 3 player Secret of Mana, or needing to buy a modem and an internet connection to play Phantasy Star Online."

True but the cost requirements of those titles is a lot smaller. Four GBAs with four link cables is like a $400 requirement to play the game with four players. That's pretty expensive and from any impressions I've read the GBA requirement doesn't really make any sense and is basically just used as a gimmick. The game could probably have been done fine without any hardware requirements.

What really bugs me about this is that Nintendo requested that the game use the GBA connection. Square has exactly what it wants: a GBA license. I really doubt that they care at all about the Gamecube and this one title is just a trade for GBA support. As a result it is very important for this title to be successful because if it's not then Square has a way out of making any more Cube games. By enforcing this stupid hardware requirement Nintendo may have accidentaly sabotaged their own game and given Square an excuse to bail right from the get-go. I'm hoping this title is still amazing with one player so that people will still enjoy the game and the GBA requirement will be more like a bonus.

In most cases I would frown on the idea of buying a game just to support a company or increase sales but in this case I'm willing to make a big exception. Unless the game gets absolutely trashed in reviews (like Unlimited Saga bad) I'll buy it on release day to make sure that Nintendo's and Square's relationship isn't soured after one game.

Berny · « **Reply #33 on:** July 09, 2003, 09:13:36 AM »

I personally think that the GameBoy Advance connectivity for FF:CC is a good idea. It's a unique thing and I like it. However, I agree with virtually everyone else on this thread who says that it will limit the sales. Like Ian Sane said, it gets pretty expensive. If the GameBoy connection were optional it would sell a lot better. Unfortunately there is very little we can do to persuade them to change it before it's released over here (regardless of where here is).

greenwisher · « **Reply #34 on:** July 09, 2003, 04:55:53 PM »

"I personally think that the GameBoy Advance connectivity for FF:CC is a good idea. It's a unique thing and I like it."

I agree whole heartedly. My problem with the gba connectivity is that it's now LIMITING gameplay. It's no longer "enhancing" the game. I thought that was the original idea of making connectivity an option on the new N games. I feel as if N is trying to force consumers into buying more of thier hardware, hardware we don't need and shouldn't have to buy. I don't need a GBA. I enjoy my cube, and don't have time to play games away from home. I think N should push the LAN idea instead of the connectivity with GBA.
Food for thought...

Ymeegod · « **Reply #35 on:** July 09, 2003, 05:14:21 PM »

"connectivity is that it's now LIMITING gameplay"

Actually isn't it enhancing? No more split-screen needed instead each player has a mini-screen to access their inventory without interfering with the others.

The only issue with it is the control pad (directional pad--GBA) vrs the the Dialog stick (GC).

I'm looking forward to it still.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #36 on:** July 09, 2003, 05:16:02 PM »

How does it limit gameplay? Most RPG's only use two astion buttons for the most part of their activities.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #37 on:** July 09, 2003, 09:30:19 PM »

I hope it's still fun alone, as I have none of the requirements (multiple GBAs, friends willing to come over).

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10, 2003, 03:53:38 AM »

*sigh*

I also hope it will be fun to play alone, since none of my friends have a GC or GBA.

Mario · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2003, 03:57:24 AM »

You can play it alone with a GC controller AND a GBA btw.

Anyway, i look forward to playing this game with my many GBA's

Oldskool · « **Reply #40 on:** July 10, 2003, 04:12:50 AM »

If a mainstream FF comes out for GCN, Square better improve that battered old battle system! Not just minor tweaks, it needs to be big changes.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #41 on:** July 12, 2003, 07:00:50 AM »

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DRJ · « **Reply #42 on:** July 12, 2003, 02:02:12 PM »

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but a GBA is NOT mandatory for multiplayer, a regualar GC controller can be used, but the team will lack important information such as detailed maps and enemy info. This was recently stated by Nintendo itself, and is not a rumor.

You will need a GBA to play multiplayer. You can play single player with a regular controller, you can play single player with a GBA, you can play single player with a regular controller and a GBA, or you can play multiplay with all GBA. There is currently no multiplayer support without using GBA as a controller. This may change for the US release, but that is highly unlikely.

"Most importantly, Nintendo is confirming that it's not required to use a Game Boy Advance to play the game in single player"
Source

If you go here you can clearly see all the set ups that you can use. Its all in Japanese, but the pictures are pretty self explanetory.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #43 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:38:15 PM »

What are you talking about? I never said that!
(and I defidently did NOT edit my post!)

The Matrixter · « **Reply #44 on:** July 13, 2003, 10:20:03 AM »

Oldskool, FFCC is a REAL time RPG, besides, Square Enix isn't putting more detail into graphics,instead it will have a better battle system and storyline than any other FF game.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #45 on:** July 13, 2003, 01:29:34 PM »

We all don't know that.

Uglydot · « **Reply #46 on:** July 13, 2003, 07:51:03 PM »

better read: Different

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #47 on:** July 15, 2003, 10:49:03 AM »

If history means anything, Final Fantasy 13 will not be on PS2, but some other system and hopefully a Nintendo console.

Final Fantasy 1 -NES
Final Fantasy 2 -NES
Final Fantasy 3 -NES

Final Fantasy 4 -SNES
Final Fantasy 5 -SNES
Final Fantasy 6 -SNES

Final Fantasy 7 -PS
Final Fantasy 8 -PS
Final Fantasy 9 -PS

Final Fantasy 10 -PS2
Final Fantasy 11 -PS2
Final Fantasy 12 -PS2

Final Fantasy X-2 doesn't count because it's not a main Final Fantasy title, but instead a direct sequel, something the series has never seen before. And Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles for GCN doesn't count either since it's not a true Final Fantasy game. And Final Fantasy Tactics (and, Advance) for PS and GBA respectively doesn't count either for the same reason, and the same goes for Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.

To go even further, but stretching it, but then you would have to discount Final Fantasy Adventure because it was not similar to Legend series at all, even though both were slapped with the Final Fantasy title for name recognition.

Final Fantasy Legend   -Gameboy
Final Fantasy Legend 2   -Gameboy
Final Fantasy Legend 3   -Gameboy

So what I'm saying is my theory means that Final Fantasy has historically seen three titles per system before changing.

CO_Hawke · « **Reply #48 on:** July 15, 2003, 11:12:19 AM »

I doubt we'll see FFXIII on the GC seeing as how Sony has a strangle hold on the series, but hey we might get a port...

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #49 on:** July 15, 2003, 11:18:12 AM »

No, he's talking about the N5, not the GCN. Enix typically develops for the system with the largest userbase. If Nintendo does really well next generation, we will see Enix and Square return.

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Author Topic: Final Fantasy (Read 20371 times)