Topic: "Wii U Can Handle Crysis 3 (And Almost Did), Says Crytek Head" -Kotaku

[Oblivion]

But thanks to EA, they didn't. I'm starting to think that it's more EA's fault than Nintendo's for the blunder that is the Wii U.


http://kotaku.com/5988140/wii-u-can-handle-crysis-3-and-almost-did-says-crytek-head

[Ceric]

[BlackNMild2k1]

After reading a few of the comments on Kotaku, I see that most people forgot the EA/Nintendo drama over Nintendo hiring EA to help build Nintendo's online, and then EA trying to use that as an opportunity to shove Origin as a whole in the Wii U (not sure why they thought that would fly) and Nintendo denying them outright. Which led to the whole EA withdrawal of major support they stood by Nintendo and proclaimed to have.

But I can't boycott the hardworking Devs that are at the mercy of EA, as that would be counter-productive to our end goal of receiving good games and justify EA in their lack of support for the system. I can only hope everyone comes around and drops all these petty grudges against each other and just get back to the business of making good games for those that want to play them.

[Ceric]

What I can do instead is only consider EA games that are on a Nintendo Platform.

[UncleBob]

I'd like to point out - if you reward good developers ran with common sense in conjunction with publishers who have common sense, when developers that are ran by ****ty publishers close down, they shouldn't have too many problems getting picked up - which will help the good developers and the good publishers.

I'm not saying you should ignore a good game because it's published by a ****ty publisher... but don't automatically assume you're doing a good thing because you're supporting a good developer.

[Enner]

Swore I read a similar statement in a news story a month or two ago.

Shame things didn't pan out. I would've liked to see CryEngine 3 and Crysis 3 running on the Wii U.

[Kytim89]

The bottom line is that EA could have simply placed this game on the eShop and made a good profit from the hardcore Wii U owners. It would not be ground breaking sales this early in the game, but it would be some pocket change. Instead EA behaves like a petulant child that is mad at her parents because they did not buy her a pony for her birthday. This is supposed to be a multi-billion dollar company run by professionals, but they behave very childish. Of course Nintendo is not going to give you the keys to their online mansion  but you can rent out a room and provide quality service to your customers.

[broodwars]

We can guess, but we'll probably never know exactly what happened between EA & Nintendo that burned that bridge so throughly.  The truth is probably something far deeper, more insidious, & probably involved more fault on both sides' part than we suspect.  That said, regardless of who is "at fault", EA's a major 3rd party that Nintendo has failed to persuade that the Wii U could be a viable platform, and it doesn't bode well for them.  Crysis 3 isn't a game I care about in the least given that I didn't think highly of Crysis 2, but it's a game the Wii U could really use right now (especially as a technical showcase of how close to high-end PC specs the Wii U can run compared to the other console versions).

[UncleBob]

::looks at number of EA games in personal library::
::counts them on one hand::
::looks at all the other great games in personal library::
::doesn't much give a **** about EA on Nintendo consoles::

[Adrock]

NBA Jam is the only game EA publishes that I care about. While I don't care much for EA's IPs myself, their support does stand to indirectly affect me. Their games are very popular and can only help Nintendo hardware I own or will own in the future. Can, but not necessarily does as Wii has shown. That said, I'd rather have strong support from them than not.

[Mop it up]

I can't really think of an EA game that I care about. I know I have a few, but they must not be anything that good if I can't remember what they are at this time. The only thing that's really coming to mind is that they published TimeSplitters Future Perfect, but they don't own that series.

[Kytim89]

EA will probably be the next THQ considering their business practices and the way their run their IPs into the ground.

[broodwars]

EA will probably be the next THQ considering their business practices and the way their run their IPs into the ground.

If EA were going to go under like THQ did, The Old Republic would have done them in a long time ago. Besides, the only reason you're saying that is because they haven't signed-up with Nintendo. If they had, you'd be singing their praises and spamming the boards with threads about how Nintendo should buy them.  I don't care for EA's current business practices, but they still have a couple of franchises I care about (mostly from Bioware & Visceral) so I'm not going to wish them bankruptcy.

[Adrock]

Yeah, EA isn't going anywhere. They offer great support on the other platforms which perform well. People would have to stop buying Madden for EA to be in danger and that's simply not going to happen, especially as long as they have the NFL license locked up.

[mysticgohan]

Hey don't forget who EA is run by, you know? the same guy who ran Sega into the ground "Peter Moore"!

[BlkPaladin]

Well if it was close to being if NFS and Lego City do reasonably well, I kind of expect we will see it down the road. (And it probably will not sell well because of the same reasons AC and ME didn't sell well.) Because even though it seems EA is holding a grudge, I doubt they will room for any competition to grow especially if Take 2 decides to try and brings its sports titles to the Wii U.

[TJ Spyke]

Hey don't forget who EA is run by, you know? the same guy who ran Sega into the ground "Peter Moore"!

Sega was already dying before Peter Moore took over (and Moore was only in charge of Sega of America), the company was deeply in debt and doing poorly already. It would be like blaming Jason Rubin for THQ going under since he took over as president shortly before going bankrupt.

[Ian Sane]

I personally wouldn't give a **** if EA supported my console of choice or not.  They just don't make games that really interest me.

But I do recognize that they're a very successful publisher and are very popular.  Any console without their support has an uphill battle and if EA isn't interested I can imagine a lot of other third parties, ones that I do care about, hanging Nintendo out to dry as well.  Plus EA supports EVERYTHING.  If your console doesn't have them, it can create a public perception that it is not popular or successful and that can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

What sucks is that if EA is pissed that Nintendo didn't let them take over their online, well, what was Nintendo supposed to do?  They couldn't give EA what they want.  It's kind of like the SNES CD thing with Sony but at least then Nintendo handled it stupidly, switching to Philips without even consulting Sony about it.  I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo did something to throw gas on the fire here but we don't know that.

EA support is like having a nose.  It's nothing to brag about but if you don't have it, something is really wrong.

[Louieturkey]

I'm still optimistic that Nintendo will figure out a way to mend the bridge that was burnt between these two companies.  At this point, I don't think EA cares one way or another if their games on on Nintendo systems.  So it's up to Nintendo to make it right, even if the problem was never their fault.

[Ceric]

I'm still optimistic that Nintendo will figure out a way to mend the bridge that was burnt between these two companies.  At this point, I don't think EA cares one way or another if their games on on Nintendo systems.  So it's up to Nintendo to make it right, even if the problem was never their fault.

I rather Nintendo find a way to make EA care.

[Louieturkey]

I'm still optimistic that Nintendo will figure out a way to mend the bridge that was burnt between these two companies.  At this point, I don't think EA cares one way or another if their games on on Nintendo systems.  So it's up to Nintendo to make it right, even if the problem was never their fault.

I rather Nintendo find a way to make EA care.

If that's the solution, then it would still mend the bridge.  If Nintendo wants EA, they have to take the first step.

[nickmitch]

What exactly would that be? Front the cost of a Mass Effect 1&2 port? Let them develop one of Nintendo's (minor) franchises? Throw EA really kick ass birthday party?

[Oblivion]

Allow Origin to be an app on the system?

[Louieturkey]

Allow Origin to be an app on the system?

This may be it.
I have no idea.  I just know that EA doesn't seem to have any desire to come back to Nintendo.

[TJ Spyke]

Allow Origin to be an app on the system?

There online games on Wii U already use Origin. If other developers want to use Origin for their Wii U games, I am sure they could.