Topic: What game series do you think won't be coming to the Wii U?

[BranDonk Kong]

Halo.

[Shaymin]

Ha...

Halo.

Edit: ****, beaten.

[NWR_insanolord]

Halo won't, but whatever Bungie's working on right now might.

[Kytim89]

It appears that Take Two's CEO is not interested in bringing over mature content to the Wii U because it, in his words, "skeptical." I guess this means that I can not look forward to Max Payne 3, Spec Ops, and GTA V being on the Wii U?
 
http://kotaku.com/5919068/grand-theft-autos-boss-is-skeptical-of-wii-us-appeal-to-core-titles
 

 Whatever you think of Take-Two or its boss, the company's principles are clear and they don't deviate from them. Titles like Max Payne and BioShock and Spec Ops: The Line get delayed because the publisher won't put out anything before it's truly ready. And it'll walk from high profile licenses like Major League Baseball because it sees no value in doing second-rate games.
So when Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick notes that the company has no plans to move any of its mature titles over to the Wii U, that's a significant appraisal of the system's perceived appeal. "I'm skeptical," he told Gamasutra in an interview notable for an executive's candid commitment to artistic quality.
But not skeptical of new hardware in general. Zelnick noted that a new console generation helps "separate the winners from the losers," and Take-Two plans to be a winner. He's also not keen on milking cash cow franchises every year until they're depleted. "We're not trying to create something good and market the hell out of it," he said. "We're trying to delight customers with something great — and market hell out of it."

[NWR_insanolord]

To ignore Kytim's point and address something from what he quoted, I'm impressed that 2K was willing to admit they suck at making baseball games and just give up and walk away. It takes a lot of integrity to just say "**** it, we haven't made a good baseball game in over 10 years of trying." and leave it at that, and not run it (further) into the ground out of pride.

[Chozo Ghost]

It takes a lot of integrity to just say "**** it,

Some would argue the exact opposite.


And as for Kytime's point, this is EXACTLY what I was afraid was going to happen. With Take Two's CEO saying they won't support the Wii U with Mature content this is a total repeat of the situation with the Gamecube and Wii all over again. Nothing appears to have improved.

[Adrock]

It's indeed unfortunate. I'm not sure anything would have played out differently unless Nintendo just flat-out threw wads of cash in Zelnick's face. Take Two is taking a wait and see approach. I get it. I probably wouldn't have bought any of their games on Wii U, but it'd be nice if the games were available.

[Chozo Ghost]

If Nintendo's focus is on games such as Nintendo Land and Wii Fit U then that's what the focus of the Wii U is going to be. 3rd parties will more or less go along in the direction that Nintendo is going. They aren't going to go against the grain and release hardcore titles if Nintendo themselves isn't doing it. Nintendo's 1st party focus will set the tone of the console, just like what happened on the Wii.

The answer isn't for Nintendo to throw money in Zelnick's face, but rather show them the way and leading by example. Sony and Microsoft have no problem creating their own 1st and 2nd party mature hardcore content, so Nintendo needs to follow suit in order to be competitive. Zelnick is taking a "wait and see" approach, but unless Nintendo takes the initiative and makes it happen then it probably never will.

[Adrock]

If that was the case, why are other companies putting "mature" titles on Wii U? These companies, Take Two included, don't need Nintendo to "lead by example." That would be total bullshit anyway. These are the same companies that claim they can't compete against Nintendo on Nintendo hardware and they suddenly want Nintendo to make similar types of games so, by their own logic, they'll have even more trouble selling games on Nintendo hardware? That doesn't make sense. All of these 3rd parties are run differently. I see a company like Ubisoft that's filling the void on Wii U because they know Nintendo doesn't make a zombie game or a stealth game. They're trying to take advantage of a demand that's up for grabs while Take Two wants to see more demand. It's difficult to determine which approach is more beneficial. As a 3rd party, do you create demand or wait for demand to be created? Nintendo is giving 3rd parties the tools. I don't think Nintendo has ever been this accommodating: the GamePad and Pro Controller are anything but limiting, Nintendo Network is apparently vastly improved over their previous quarter-ass attempts at online gaming, AND they asked for feedback.

On top of that, Nintendo is Nintendo because they make Nintendo games. They don't "follow suit." They go their own way and that's what is so appealing about their games. If you want stuff like Halo and God of War, go play them on the consoles they're made for. I'm glad Nintendo hasn't tried to make those kinds of games because they wouldn't know where to begin. It wouldn't feel genuine and you'd end up with something that tries too hard thematically, like Twilight Princess or Other M.

[house3136]

 I would be kind of surprised if Watch Dogs didn’t come to Wii U, considering a lot of the city map and toolkit could be relegated to the bottom screen and have interactivity in some way; and hopefully not just because it’s there, but in some fun, meaningful way. The demo had a lot of smartphone stuff that looks like it would lend itself naturally to the GamePad. Yves Guillemot confirmed it for PS360, I don’t see why it shouldn’t be on Wii U. If Ubisoft thinks a game like ZombiU will sell on Wii U, I’m assuming that same demographic will also be interested in Watch Dogs. I just want it to turn out as good as everyone believes it will.
I just hope that if ZombiU has initially slow sales, that it doesn’t detrimentally tarnish 3^rd-party’s perception of the console. I think Assassin’s Creed will sell well no matter what. Either way, Ubisoft has so many games on the console they don’t have to worry about getting burned (it’s not like they’re going to take back Just Dance 4). However, Ubisoft is one of the biggest offenders of shovelware on Wii. And I’ve been trying not to give into the negativity that Wii U will be substantially behind again, which I don’t think is even possible, unless the competition really wants to go bankrupt. Losing $200-300 per console for the first couple years of its life cycle isn’t a viable profit strategy. But for some reason people don’t understand why Nintendo can’t do this (because it’s suicide). I’ll take one quality game over 10 Party Babyz any day. 3^rd-party just needs to realize, Nintendo games sell extremely well because they have a track record of excellence; so that when you purchase their games, you know they’re quality. If you throw a steaming pile on the shelf, and someone gets screwed out of $60, guess what, they’ll never buy your games again, and rightfully so. 3^rd-partys that are on the fence are watching; I just pray that by March 31, the numbers look good.

[Evan_B]

If Watch Dogs comes out on the Wii U, I want the protagonist's in-game tool to be a Wii U gamepad, not a smartphone.

[ThePerm]

You know im tempted to start a kick starter to develop a mature game for Wii u using the source engine. I know the source engine pretty well and my only problem when i was making my levels was i didn't have the ability to move stuff from a real 3d program to source engine, if i had the money i would buy all sorts of **** to make that work. Gabe Newell was talking about Wii U a year ago, and im thinking maybe they have something running on wii u, which i can just port my assets from pc to wii u. Im sure if I raised 100k i could develop a game in 8 months. Whether it would be good or not would be up to people.  The decision would really whether to make something revolutionary or something thats simply good but conventional.

Though to be honest, I rather have my own engine. Having used many different level design utilities I would want something thats a hybrid of all the ones iv used for ease of use and convenience. I would need a team of some really good programmers for that sort of thing and that takes more than 100k.

[house3136]

 With that trench coat the main character was wearing it may be possible.  *Whips out GamePad* “Let’s deactivate these traffic lights.” That would be hilarious and surreal at the same time.

[the asylum]

Tales Of [...]
Metal Gear Solid
And anything Final Fantasy that isn't a shallow spinoff

[Kairon]

Tales Of [...]

NOOOOOOooooo!!!!!

... I don't know why I'm saying that. I'm actually not a fan of ToS. But I like JRPGs, so I guess it's a matter of principle.

As for Final Fantasy, I'd love for the mainline series to come to the Wii U. But I've hardened myself for the possibility that it may only be a pipe dream.

[NWR_insanolord]

They put FFXIII on the 360. The Wii U will get mainline Final Fantasy if it's capable of running it; Square Enix can't afford not to support Nintendo if it's a reasonable option.

EDIT: This is assuming they don't break down and put the game on handhelds, which is what the Japanese market would want anyway, in which case it would be on the 3DS.

[Kytim89]

I would love for Gears of War to be on the Wii U.

[NWR_insanolord]

Which is impossible, because it's Microsoft exclusive.

[Chozo Ghost]

Which is impossible, because it's Microsoft exclusive.

Its not impossible, but it is extremely unlikely...

Microsoft has exclusive publishing rights, but the franchise itself is owned by Epic Games. So its just like the situation with Mass Effect 1. As we know, Microsoft's exclusive rights to that game didn't prevent ME2 and 3 from coming to other platforms. So at least in theory further GoW games could come to competing platforms. Its not impossible, but again its probably not likely.

Also, Microsoft's exclusive rights to the existing GoW games probably isn't permanent. Eventually that will probably expire, just as their exclusive rights to ME1 will eventually expire (if it hasn't already).

[rlse9]

I think the more interesting question might be which Nintendo series won't be coming to the Wii U?  I never would have guessed that the Wii wouldn't get a new Pikmin game.  I was also surprised that there wasn't a new Wave Race, the N64 version was great and Blue Storm was a good followup but it also got passed over last generation.

[Chozo Ghost]

I think the more interesting question might be which Nintendo series won't be coming to the Wii U?

One possibility is the Metroid franchise. We know Retro doesn't want to work on it anymore, and considering that Other M was a commercial and critical failure its doubtful whether Sakamoto wants to do it again anytime soon, or if he does want to do it if he would even be allowed to touch it.

The Wii U might be like the N64 and be completely void of any Metroid games. Maybe Nintendo figures it needs a hiatus after the Other M fiasco.

[nickmitch]

If the series goes back to 2D, it could still be on Wii U. It'd be perfect for that "play it on just the uPad" functionality Nintendo is pushing. Besides, it would really benefit from being on the 3DS.

[NWR_insanolord]

I'd say we'd be more likely to see 2D Metroid if it were on the 3DS, but since Japan has proven time and time again not to care about the series I'm not so sure.

The sad thing is, realistically, a 2D Metroid on Wii U done right would be beloved by critics and then sell 300,000 copies.

[Stogi]

I want to hold the gamepad up to access scan mode.

[Tamazoid]

*Insert name here* of Thunder.


RIP Hudson Soft