Topic: Matrix Reloaded Plot Discussion

[DRJ]

I just say the Matrix Reloaded and had a question about the ending. How was Neo able to stop the robots at the end of the movie when he is in the real world? Do you think that the so called "real world" is just another part of the matrix? or does he have some sort of esp now?

Also if the real world is part of the matrix do you think that Neo is real or an AI? The architech says that "The One" is the result of the remainder of an unbalanced equation, so could he be just another program, designed to destroy and then rebuild the zion when too many people have been freed from the matrix.

Think about this. Only 99% of humans will except the matrix so 1% know that there is something wrong. The people in zion help remove these people from the matrix thinking that they are freeing them, but really they are just enterring another matrix. The "real world" is acceptable to these people and so the matrix is stable. Eventually there are to many anomalies (in this case 250,000) and so The One is created. Zion is destroyed and then rebuilt. The matrix starts all over again...

[Vanilla Thunder]

When the Nebbachunezza was destroyed by the Sentienls and they were fleeing through the tunnels, Neo stops and mentions that he can "feel" them.  Then he unleashes his own electromagnetic pulse and disables the machines.  My guess is that Neo has synchronized himself even moreso with the Matrix, to the point where he can extend his influence over the machines that are controlled by the Matrix's programs in the real world.  That's what I figured when I saw it, anyways.

About the confrontation with the Architect.  From what I gathered, your statement makes sense, but I don't understand why the Machines would be fostering resistance to their own power supplies by permitting another Zion to form again and again.  Perhaps they have no control over that.  From the sounds of things, the Matrix is somewhat like a giant, mathematical algorithim, with point-blank, black-and-white equations which, when you plug in the imperfect human minds as your y's and x's, creates an unbalanced equation that humans are able to reject, given the prospect of mental comprehension (choice), and thus causing system errors and loopholes to seperate from the mainframe.  Perhaps escaping humans is inevitable and so they use the aforementioned cycle of "Ones" to maintain an equilibrium of sorts; Zion repopulates, resistance grows tense, and the One unwittingly stiffles it.  Thus, the friendly Oracle, despite her good intentions (the result of AI processing choices free of the system), could be a control herself, unknowningly mired by the program bearing over the environment (the Matrix).  In that case, there really would be no messiah, so to speak.

And exactly how will Neo free all of the humans in Revolutions?  It sounds like freeing any more then twenty-three humans, half of which are male and the other female, will trigger a massive system failure that'll terminate humanity.  Then Earth will be left to the Machines.  Even if Neo does shut down the Matrix and escape with twenty-three humans, they won't stand a chance against the Machines back in the real world when they resort to their back-up energy sources.  Seems like a lose-lose situation to me...  

Confusing sh*t, this is.

[DRJ]

I think the machines allow zion to survive because they (the people of zion) unknowingly do the work for the machines. They seek out people in the matrix that are anomalies (people that will not accept the matrix). They free them and so the matrix is stable. The machines dont care if a few humans break free since they have billions locked in. When zion grows to a level that could be a threat they destroy them and start over.

But what I am wondering is if the whole zion world is still part of the matrix. I can just imagine the end of the third movie having Neo finally freeing himself to the real world, but he is the only one. Everyone else is stuck in the matrix one way or another.

The matrix is a computer program, so I just dont see how Neo could tap into it remotely just by standing in the real world.

At least the next movie will be out in 6 months and not 4 years.

[nolimit19]

u damn people need to use the exisisting thread

[Termin8Anakin]

yeah. i'll just continue this there.