Author Topic: Sonys PSP vs. GBA- Does Nintendo have a chance? (Read 12618 times)

Armed · « **on:** May 14, 2003, 04:51:15 PM »

Well i think that Nintendo can still dominate the handheld market since most people already own a GBA or GBA SP anyway. What they just have to do now is start to make a new handheld that will blow aways Sonys PSP and try to release it like a year after the PSP comes out with alot of preview advertising of their new handheld so people will know that there is something better that is coming; i mean who would buy a handheld that will be outdated away by another handheld a year after. Also you don't really know the battery life of Sonys PSP or price so i don't think there is anything to worry about.

......or is there (remembering how the rise of PS started)?

dmbfan755 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2003, 04:55:15 PM »

there is already a PSP thread in other systems

Ace of Spades · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2003, 05:25:28 PM »

I think the topic should be "Sonys PSP vs. GBA-Does Sony have a chance?" Developers won't jump straight to the PSP plus so many people have GBAs and there are 1000(?) playable games for it, I don't think SOny will control the handheld market anytime soon.

Joey · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2003, 05:29:14 PM »

I think if Nintendo does not make any major mistakes this time they should be in good shape.

NintendoKiD · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:02:13 PM »

Doesnt this post belong on the GBA boards?

Armed · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:07:34 PM »

As long as Nintendo doesn't get too cocky and responds to this minor threat(for now) instead of ignoring it with like a new GB it should be ok.

or

if the PSP just sucks, like battery life, loading time with discs, expensive games, uncomfortable to carry around, price of handheld etc....

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:08:26 PM »

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Originally posted by: Joey
I think if Nintendo does not make any major mistakes this time they should be in good shape.

spoken like a mastermind

just kiddin man .. i really hope that nintendo gets a cheap media medium to use.. i am willing to sacrifice the backwards compatability if it is necessary for the portable gaming industry to move on (actually i want portable gaming to stay 2D.. thanks a lot Sony ... so really what i meant to say was i am willing to sacrifice the backwards compatability in order for Nintendo to prosper.. and as i do, the world shall do once i implant subliminal messages in Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Halo 2, and Grand Theft Auto: [insert city] MWHAAhaa )

Mario · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:33:54 PM »

Nintendo will prevail. One word: Pokemon

Oh yeah and Mario, Zelda etc.

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:38:59 PM »

The litle thing nobody mentions is the propertary media that Sony will use, those Sony Mini Disks will be much more expensive for third parties than the GBA Cartridges... so Nintendo does have an advantage

Zeth · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:53:50 PM »

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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
The litle thing nobody mentions is the propertary media that Sony will use, those Sony Mini Disks will be much more expensive for third parties than the GBA Cartridges... so Nintendo does have an advantage

...uh ... how the heck do you know that?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2003, 08:29:55 PM »

Disks are cheaper, but more power means higher expectations. That means the developers cannot make an entire game in 6 weeks of crunch time.

greenwood · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2003, 08:37:40 PM »

I can't believe anyone is even asking this. Hell, I've even seen some dopes call this "the final nail in Nintendo's coffin." That's absurd. The PSP stands as no threat to Nintendo dominance in the portable gaming field. First, it won't even come out until late 2004. That's a year and a half away. What's the installed user base of the GBA right now? What will it be when the PSP comes out? How much will the PSP be? I could on about more stuff like how it's more profitable for companies to make games for the GBA (much higher installed user base) and how they can just port their older games over if they want but I'll end this arguement right here.
Asking if the GBA stands a chance would have been like asking, "Does the PS2 stand a chance?" when the GCN and Xbox were announced. We all know how that's turned out. Sony is doing this to make money and I think they will make money but there's no way the PSP is any kind of threat to the GBA.

nonjagged · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2003, 01:17:19 AM »

LOL did anyone see what Nintendo launched when Nokia was about to launch their handheld Ngage?
Yup Nintendo launched GBA SP nad made a killing.

Youd have to be fairly slow not to speculate that when Sony launch their PSX Handheld (due for late 2004) that Nintendo will have its N64 Handheld ready.

Would consumers buy a Handheld for FF7 (as MGS1 is on the GCN) or would they buy a handheld for 64 bit games/technology with build-in SD adapters and wireless connectivity to the next Gamecube?

I agree the question you should be asking is whether or not Sony pays billions to get exclusive franchises off the next Nintendo Handheld and surely one would think by the end of E3 2004 M$ will have revealed all of its plans for its handheld its secretly working on together with Rare.

In my opinion M$'s handhelds will one day even eclipse the GBA market becuase M$ has so many PC franchises it can just pluck that are out there already, without the need for Rare to make Nintendo clones.

Sony on the other hand needs to pay up a great deal to get exclusive franchises that will sell its handheld.

While Nintendo just make games.

PIAC · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2003, 01:24:07 AM »

heh you bring up a good point nonjagged, theres no punch without duty, im surprised m$ haven't anounced their we are the best handheld allready. i mean they could even call it the 'microbox' or something like that.

what other areas could microsoft move into :\

i just had a scary idea... isn't this how the whole datadyne/terminater thing got started

edit: there are 3 threads on this subject, including this one :\ perhaps 4, something tells me mods wont be happy

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2003, 03:02:19 AM »

the sony thing will come out in 2004
so what

by 2005 the new GBA will be around and is sure to kick sonys psp ass

GBA cant be defeated, they might take like 5% market share

jarob · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2003, 06:13:05 AM »

GBA can not be defeated? Come on people. Nothing is that invincible. PSX was suppose to be a flop and now look at it. Never underestimate your adversary!

muzein · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2003, 06:58:29 AM »

Just reading the screen dimensions I can tell I will hate the PSP. 4.5 inches? Way to big for portable. I thought the GBA was to big... The SP is the best portable to date IMHO.

I think portables need to stick to mainly 2d gaming. For it truely to be called portable I think it needs to be able to slip into a pocket and not be a problem. With 3d games you need a larger screen, which is what the PSP is doing...but the larger screen immediatly takes away the small portable size. I just cant see a portable based entirely around 3d gaming being a very viable system. Course I couldnt stand the PS1 either.....spent more time loading than playing.

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2003, 07:44:35 AM »

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uh ... how the heck do you know that?

Propertary media is always expensive... Notice how the Gamecube mini disks are more expensive than PS2 or Xbox dvds...?

boggy b · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2003, 08:23:33 AM »

I don't get it with you people.

Firstly, you bemoan the PSP claiming that it will be the end of 2D gaming. Then, you go on to say that it'll be crushed by an even more powerful GameBoy after released.

I mean, one second you're defending 2D gaming and then you don't care...

Second, you're all brushing aside PSP like it's another N-Gage. We're talking about SONY here. You know, the ones who demolished Nintendo and has sold the most consoles ever? The most POPULAR console makers on the planet? PlayStation is a respected brandname ALREADY; it doesn't need to market itself like N-Gage.

Thirdly, why SHOULD Nintendo be anywhere near releasing the next GBA? And for that matter, why would it be any more powerful than PSP? These are PROJECTED specifications - none of these units ACTUALLY exist yet. These are the type of specs that it WILL have, but that doesn't mean they wont get better.

Finally, you say that proprietary media is always more expensive, and use this as an example as to why Sony's will be more expensive than Nintendos. You just overlooked the fact that Nintendo use their OWN proprietary media, which is NOTORIOUSLY expensive: cartridges.

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2003, 09:42:32 AM »

fine, your right, sony should be taken seriously as a competitor, but, nintendo is still major market leader. they wont make the same mistake twice (N64 flop) and they most certainly have a strategy for the GBA sucessor which will most likely blow away the PSP and yet remain true to handheld gaming

MH-001 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2003, 11:14:47 AM »

If anything, the PSP will be competing with the GBA successor. And because of this early announcement, nintendo knows just what to do concerning their next handheld to beat out the PSP: dual mediums. Have a cartridge slot for all those GB/GBC/GBA games, and a minidisc slot for the new games.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2003, 11:40:08 AM »

"Sonys PSP vs. GBA- Does Nintendo have a chance?"

I think the more accurate question is does Sony have a chance. Nintendo's handheld system already has a user base of tens of millions of people and a library of literally thousands of games. So far, the PSP has a big, fat, red zero in both those areas. All it has are specs so far (although they are mighty impressive).

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2003, 12:36:00 PM »

Am I the only one who is not looking forward to having their fingers sliced off because sony forgot to put a cover on the first model?

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2003, 12:37:55 PM »

Am I the only one not looking forward to having to buy two consoles to get all the great handheld games now? The handheld sector was one place that at least had a standardized console that pretty much everyone developed for, eliminating the need to own multiple systems just to play great games.

)Dark-LInk( · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2003, 02:06:07 PM »

I hope Nintendo does the smart move of revealing the GBA2 a few months before the PSP launches.. than sony wil trully be in trouble...cough DREAMCAST cough....

And if nintendo is to stay with cartridges they should SEARCH for a new at least 1GB data capacity one...

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