Topic: Resident Evil: Revelations to Cost $50

[NintendoFanboy]

 I just ordered it on Amazon, for 39.99 . it says 49.99 you pay 39.99 in red.
well, thank you amazon, i'll take that.
infact, i was going to order it last week, off amazon, but forgot.
If you think vita games will be $30 your fooling yourself.
i'm betting vita games start at $50 to $60.
if they really are doing PS3 games on the go, 20gig cart anyone?

[Mop it up]

What about handheld games makes them inherently worth less than console games?

You sort of covered my case in your later thoughts: handhelds have tiny screens, poor sound quality, and an uncomfortable controller. It doesn't really matter what the game is in question, the experience isn't as good as a console game. Therefore, I am not willing to spend as much on a handheld game as I am a console game. I wouldn't say I view handheld games as inherently less value; games are worth whatever people are willing to pay, as long as they enjoy them. That's just my view.

As far as if this were a Wii game, in that case, it wouldn't be $10 more than the standard price for a full Wii game. Whether that's fair or not, that's the issue some people have. Possibly related, but the PSP has plenty of console-style games and I don't recall those being priced at $50-60, though to be fair I have never shopped for PSP games so I could be wrong.

[Ymeegod]

"handhelds have tiny screens, poor sound quality, and an uncomfortable controller."

Why would tiny screen matter when you control how close you can be?  I have an 46inch TV that I sit 6 feet away from vrs my handhelds where I'm less than a foot from? 

Sound quality?  Are you talking about speakers--yeah they suck but you still have headphones option.  The WII supports just PL2 and that still just plain stereo.  Handhelds have their own 3D sound software but you didn't see much use on the DS I'm guessing due to storage issues but Capcom's pushing it for this game.

And uncomfortable controller?  You can buy grips and the analog addon comes built in with one.  The WII has the worst standard controller but nobody complains because you can swap it out with the classic controller PRO if you want it.  And on the XBOX you'll have to swap it out for any game that requires the use of the directional pad--in case you missed it but the Europeans been getting an updated controller for a few years now but MS is still shipping the same crappy one in the States--talk about unfair.

 

[Ymeegod]

The highest prices for last generation for handhelds was $40 which was an standard for many PSP titles and an few DS ones.  I'm guessing $50 for Vita would be normal prices.  If you don't like the prices and wait for sales or just rent the damn thing. 

The only game I paid "retail" for during the last couple of years was Xenoblade because the freaking game wasn't released stateside . 

[Mop it up]

Why would tiny screen matter when you control how close you can be?  I have an 46inch TV that I sit 6 feet away from vrs my handhelds where I'm less than a foot from? 

You kind of answered your own question here. Holding something up to my face is not only uncomfortable, but having a light bulb so close strains my eyes. Looking at a television screen across the room does not cause discomfort.

Sound quality?  Are you talking about speakers--yeah they suck but you still have headphones option.

Headphones still don't equate to a good stereo. However, that isn't an issue because I have a cable to connect handhelds to my stereo. But the DS sound quality itself seems the same as the GBA, which doesn't sound as good as even the Super NES in some cases. I haven't played a 3DS game though, so I don't yet know how it compares.

The WII has the worst standard controller but nobody complains because you can swap it out with the classic controller PRO if you want it.

This statement means it's probably pointless to respond since it states an opinion as a fact (one which I completely disagree with), so I'll just say that comfort is subjective and different for everyone.

[Ymeegod]

"light bulb so close strains my eyes"

Ah....That's not a problem for the majority of people, sounds like you have light sensitivity or something like that.

Stereo sounds is all the same, if you look at specs the DS kills the SNES but it's up to the developers for example listen to Square's FFTA2 soundtrack.  Alot of people say it doesn't sound the same as the SNES but that's mostly sloppy ports but if you take an game built on the system it sounds much better.  Same with the PSP.  The 3DS sounds great but the volume is pretty damn weak even with headphones--I'm guessing it's because of battery drainage.  There are apps that you can use to "fix" that issue or you can just buy headphones with external batteries.

As for the controller--I'm saying there's ways to improve the comfort level.  Sounds like you don't enjoy holding it but there's "stands" even, tons of gripes, etc.   

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Again all that is as you say personal but none of it reflexes why should developers charge LESS. 

[Fatty The Hutt]

Anyone buying this for $50, I am calling you a rube (North Americans, anyway. I realize the pricing models are completely different elsewhere).
 
This is a cash-grab and test of market tolerance not a "poor us, we need to recover cart costs" move.
 
I predict that within, say 6 months, there will be:
1. A price drop for the 3DS version;
2. A Vita version.
 
A little while later there will be:
3. A PS3 Hi-def version
4. Possibly the same for WiiU.
 
I predict none of 1 through 4 will be over $40. I also predict 3 and 4 (and possibly 2) will have increased content.
 
So be patient, friends. Vote with your dollars. Do not open up the market for $50 3DS games because you are being told the game is a "console-like" experience. What does that even mean? Not much, I submit, if you think about it for a moment.

[ejamer]

Anyone buying this for $50, I am calling you a rube (North Americans, anyway. I realize the pricing models are completely different elsewhere).
 ...

So the question is to wait for 6+ months, or pay $10 for an advance copy?


This is the only 3DS game that I'm really looking forward to in the near future, with StarFox 64 the only already released game that I'm interested in buying. RE4 got massive amounts of playtime and I'm excited for another game in the series (even if RE5 was a disappointment).


Call me what you will but I'm happy to drop the $10 for a high quality game while you rubes sit around twiddling your thumbs for months on end. It's not like my gaming budget is suffering since there have been virtually no Wii or 3DS games worth owning in 2011.
 




PS -- I'd probably be willing to pay $60 for the next Monster Hunter game on 3DS if it's an all-new, full-featured release. Monster Hunger Tri received well over 300 hours of gameplay on my Wii... and $0.20 per hour would seem like a steal for a portable version.

[Fatty The Hutt]

So the question is to wait for 6+ months, or pay $10 for an advance copy?

I didn't say wait 6+ months. I said that there will be a price drop and a Vita version within 6 months. Six months was an outside number; I actually think the price drop will happen quite soon, maybe within a month but more likely two.
 
The position I want to advocate is that I wish you and others would wait for the price drop and send the message that the consumer base is unwilling to let $50 3DS games becaome the standard. I think that's the test ballon that's being floated here by Capcom.
 

Call me what you will

Rube!! You're ruining gaming for the rest of us!!! 

PS -- I'd probably be willing to pay $60 for the next Monster Hunter game on 3DS if it's an all-new, full-featured release.

OK, now you're really ruining it for the rest of us. 
 

[Ceric]

If I was Nintendo, I would make a concerted effort to exclusive lock in this game and Monster Hunter.  To the point that breaking the contract would give Nintendo enough money that it be better for them.  Though this would mean taking less per game sold.

[Fatty The Hutt]

@Ceric: If Nintendo locked this in as an exclusive, that would certainly change things. I wonder if Ninty would approve of the price or want Capcom to "fall in line" with "typical" 3DS pricing?
 
Mind you, it seems that with Capcom right now, Nintendo will do what Capcom wants, not the other way around. (second slide-pad attachement, anyone?)

[Ceric]

@Ceric: If Nintendo locked this in as an exclusive, that would certainly change things. I wonder if Ninty would approve of the price or want Capcom to "fall in line" with "typical" 3DS pricing?
 
Mind you, it seems that with Capcom right now, Nintendo will do what Capcom wants, not the other way around. (second slide-pad attachement, anyone?)

I figured that the $50 price point would be part of the deal.

[ejamer]

So the question is to wait for 6+ months, or pay $10 for an advance copy?

I didn't say wait 6+ months. I said that there will be a price drop and a Vita version within 6 months. Six months was an outside number; I actually think the price drop will happen quite soon, maybe within a month but more likely two.
 
The position I want to advocate is that I wish you and others would wait for the price drop and send the message that the consumer base is unwilling to let $50 3DS games becaome the standard. I think that's the test ballon that's being floated here by Capcom.
 

Call me what you will

Rube!! You're ruining gaming for the rest of us!!! 

PS -- I'd probably be willing to pay $60 for the next Monster Hunter game on 3DS if it's an all-new, full-featured release.

OK, now you're really ruining it for the rest of us. 

If there were other games out that appealed to me, I would fully agree with your post. Normally I'm in no rush to buy and all too happy waiting for price drops... but so far there has been very little that interests me and Capcom seems ready to take advantage of that lull by releasing a AAA-quality blockbuster on 3DS. If you put out the games I want - especially when nobody else is - then you get my money.


Don't even ask how much I would have paid for a North American version of Xenoblade, if I hadn't given up hope and imported.  (Hint: bought a second-hand Wii to install homebrew on so I could play...)

[Fatty The Hutt]

If there were other games out that appealed to me, I would fully agree with your post. Normally I'm in no rush to buy and all too happy waiting for price drops... but so far there has been very little that interests me and Capcom seems ready to take advantage of that lull by releasing a AAA-quality blockbuster on 3DS. If you put out the games I want - especially when nobody else is - then you get my money.

Fair enough.

Don't even ask how much I would have paid for a North American version of Xenoblade, if I hadn't given up hope and imported.  (Hint: bought a second-hand Wii to install homebrew on so I could play...)

Oh My Lord, that's brilliant! Futzing with my precious Wii and possibly messing it up is the one thing that's prevented me from importing. I may actually consider going your route. Never thought of it.
Did everything work out OK?
(I should say that I am still holding out hope for a NA release. I am currently willing to give it another year.)

[KDR_11k]

When I first saw the headline I didn't remember that 3DS games aren't 45-50 in the US and thought "what's the deal?"

Oh My Lord, that's brilliant! Futzing with my precious Wii and possibly messing it up is the one thing that's prevented me from importing. I may actually consider going your route. Never thought of it.
Did everything work out OK?
(I should say that I am still holding out hope for a NA release. I am currently willing to give it another year.)

Do you remember that one Wii update that bricked loads of systems? Applying that was a SIGNIFICANTLY higher risk than installing homebrew. The mechanisms used by that update have been in the Wii for a long time but homebrewers decided not to use them as they were too buggy. The homebrewers actually rewrote those routines to be more reliable!

[MarioKart7]

Wow 10 dollars more. I would still buy it but it rated M, imma still try to get it though

[Fatty The Hutt]

Do you remember that one Wii update that bricked loads of systems? Applying that was a SIGNIFICANTLY higher risk than installing homebrew. The mechanisms used by that update have been in the Wii for a long time but homebrewers decided not to use them as they were too buggy. The homebrewers actually rewrote those routines to be more reliable!

No slight on the homebrewers, it is my lack of tech savy and skill that I am afraid of.

[Mop it up]

The game is available for pre-order on Amazon at $40, so anyone who wants the game but doesn't like the higher price should jump on that before all their pre-orders are filled.

[NintendoFanboy]

 mop it up has it right.
buy it for $40 now and show u want this content.
If u wait for the PS3 port, in HD for $40 or $50, then u will tell capcom, we want this on the PS3
 or a sloppy control version for $10 on IOS.
If u are not a supporter fine, but calling other people names, is a sign
of low intellegence.

[ejamer]

Don't even ask how much I would have paid for a North American version of Xenoblade, if I hadn't given up hope and imported.  (Hint: bought a second-hand Wii to install homebrew on so I could play...)

Oh My Lord, that's brilliant! Futzing with my precious Wii and possibly messing it up is the one thing that's prevented me from importing. I may actually consider going your route. Never thought of it.
Did everything work out OK?
(I should say that I am still holding out hope for a NA release. I am currently willing to give it another year.)

Everything went fine. It took more time than I had expected to get everything installed, but wasn't difficult and the hack worked perfectly. It was also easily worth the $40 we paid for the used console.


(I should clarify though: there are actually a couple of reasons why we bought a used Wii, it wasn't just for Xenoblade even though that did play a big part in the decision. Having a second Netflix box in the house was part of the incentive, there are a handful of other Wii games I want that haven't made it to North America, and we also have a large amount of downloaded content on our existing, barely-working Wii. Installing homebrew on a system that will probably be sent to Nintendo for repairs soon seemed like a questionable idea.)