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Re: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never!
« Reply #1050 on: June 03, 2011, 12:23:00 PM »
Fucking with their keynote would be funny, especially since it would only jerk around Sony themselves and not Sony customers.

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Re: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never!
« Reply #1051 on: June 03, 2011, 12:33:30 PM »
As a developer I could see the conversation back when it was being built.

Programmer:  We should encrypt these passwords but it will add at least an hour to the programming.
Bean Counter: Nope to long
Programmer: I can guarantee that it will pay back over time
Bean Counter: Nope

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Encrypting passwords is so easy to do and there isn't a reason not to. Its not like you can call customer support and say 'Hey, I forgot my password. Can you look it up and tell me what it is? Oh, nevermind, Lulz did it for me. Thanks any way.'

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« Reply #1052 on: June 03, 2011, 12:55:01 PM »
As a developer I could see the conversation back when it was being built.

Programmer:  We should encrypt these passwords but it will add at least an hour to the programming.
Bean Counter: Nope to long
Programmer: I can guarantee that it will pay back over time
Bean Counter: Nope

fixed

Encrypting passwords is so easy to do and there isn't a reason not to. Its not like you can call customer support and say 'Hey, I forgot my password. Can you look it up and tell me what it is? Oh, nevermind, Lulz did it for me. Thanks any way.'
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« Reply #1053 on: June 03, 2011, 12:58:37 PM »
Sony's demonstration of PS Pita's online experience may go a little something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzFUcDKC64E
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« Reply #1054 on: June 03, 2011, 06:26:22 PM »
Soooo I was able to get Killzone Liberation after picking it and LittleBigPlanet, but now there's a problem. Killzone appeared on my "downloads" list but LBP didn't. And I can't re-choose either one...it's like I picked my games and now I'm locked out, but I don't have LBP. I might have to email them...
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« Reply #1055 on: June 03, 2011, 07:34:30 PM »
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Q: I no longer have the option to choose my free Welcome Back games. What can I do?
 
 A: If you navigate away from the Welcome Back section of the store without choosing your free games or exit the store completely you may need to follow the below in order to choose and download your free games.
 
 On your PlayStation 3 or PlayStation Portable navigate to the PlayStation Network icon on the XMB
 
 Log into your PlayStation Network account and choose Account Management > Transaction Management > Services List
 
 Choose “PlayStation Network Promotions” from the list of services displayed
 
 Select either “PS3 Free Games” or “PSP Free Games” and then choose “Select Content”
 
 You will be taken to the store to choose your remaining free games.

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« Reply #1056 on: June 03, 2011, 07:46:49 PM »
Thanks, hopefully this'll solve it.

The store is getting PWNED right now. I can't even sign in successfully.
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« Reply #1057 on: June 04, 2011, 04:10:03 AM »
i'm confused, are the free ps3 games up yet?

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« Reply #1058 on: June 04, 2011, 08:50:58 AM »
Yeah, they are. I'm surprised no one took a moment to announce that in this thread... but yeah, they went up yesterday.
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« Reply #1059 on: June 04, 2011, 11:40:10 AM »
Yeah, they are. I'm surprised no one took a moment to announce that in this thread... but yeah, they went up yesterday.

I've been a bit busy driving across country, myself.

I've downloaded my two free PSP games (LittleBigPlanet and Killzone Liberation).  Looking forward to getting home on Monday and getting my two free PS3 games (LittleBigPlanet and Infamous).
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« Reply #1060 on: June 04, 2011, 12:54:13 PM »
I haven't bothered with it yet, but I wonder if I can at least activate the 2 PSP games even though I don't actually own a PSP and then at some point in the future if I ever do get a PSP they will be accessible. Is that possible?
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« Reply #1061 on: June 04, 2011, 02:04:38 PM »
I tried to download the free games, but their system kept getting errors.

You have to go the Welcome back section of the store, "purchase" a free game voucher, then choose a game to download.

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« Reply #1062 on: June 04, 2011, 02:39:51 PM »
If you get an error just go back and keep trying until it works. I'm getting those errors all the time as I navigate around the store, but if you are patient and just keep trying eventually you can get stuff done.
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« Reply #1063 on: June 04, 2011, 02:49:08 PM »
I successfully got all four games (LBP, Killzone, inFamous, and Wipeout). Now I'm having a helluva time downloading add-on DLC for LBP PSP. I got one thing successfully but then that particular menu went completely blank.
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« Reply #1064 on: June 04, 2011, 05:10:21 PM »
Yeah, they are. I'm surprised no one took a moment to announce that in this thread... but yeah, they went up yesterday.

I've been a bit busy driving across country, myself.

I've downloaded my two free PSP games (LittleBigPlanet and Killzone Liberation).  Looking forward to getting home on Monday and getting my two free PS3 games (LittleBigPlanet and Infamous).

Just a suggestion, but if you're willing to buy used, you can get both LittleBigPlanet and inFamous for SUPER cheap online right now because everyone is pawning theirs off now.  So you could probably download 2 of the other titles and get those games for under $5.  Just thinking of ways to maximize your payoff for this.

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« Reply #1065 on: June 04, 2011, 05:15:11 PM »
If you were lucky enough to have 3 or more PSN accounts prior to the hacking then you are able to get all of the games spread out over all of those accounts...
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« Reply #1066 on: June 05, 2011, 09:07:45 AM »
Looks like it's Nintendo's turn to be hacked

Good news is that nothing happened to any customers or their information.
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« Reply #1067 on: June 05, 2011, 09:21:23 AM »
Looks like it's Nintendo's turn to be hacked

Good news is that nothing happened to any customers or their information.

Nothing happened probably because Nintendo probably had more sense than to store **** in plain text format. Sony should not be forgiven for placing credit card numbers, passwords, and other sensitive information in plain text format. Anyone who gives a **** about their customers would not do that. That's why I say anyone who is a fan of Sony is a submissive masochist who loves to be treated like dirt. That's the only way it can be explained why someone would be a fan of them.
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« Reply #1068 on: June 05, 2011, 10:17:06 AM »
Anyone who gives a **** about their customers would not do that. That's why I say anyone who is a fan of Sony is a submissive masochist who loves to be treated like dirt. That's the only way it can be explained why someone would be a fan of them.

You'd think, at least. The entire rootkit fiasco should have turned everyone off to them years ago. Never mind all of their dirty, underhanded legal battles against the competition.
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« Reply #1069 on: June 05, 2011, 10:42:00 AM »
Looks like it's Nintendo's turn to be hacked

Good news is that nothing happened to any customers or their information.

I was gonna post about this yesterday as it is that LULz group again that's been braggin about hacking Sony, the FBI* and now Nintendo.

They said they were just playing with the the site seeing if there were any security holes but wouldn't full on attack Nintendo (or Sega for that matter) because they love them too much.

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But it looks like they were searching for E3 info... Luckily Nintendo doesn't have any information they are holding secret actually attached to anything as they probably keep it on internal servers that don't get connected/uploaded or whatever until it's time to go live.
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« Reply #1070 on: June 05, 2011, 12:18:48 PM »
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/04/sony-europe-hacked-by-lebanese-hacker-again/
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By my count this is unlucky hack number 13 for Sony. A Lebanese hacker known as Idahc dumped another user database at Sony Europe containing approximately 120 usernames, passwords (plain text), mobile phone numbers, work emails and website addresses.

The attacker claims that he used standard SQL injection techniques to acquire the database. I think it is fair to say it appears that Sony has not learned anything from the previous 12 attacks.

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LulzSec @NFS13EPIC What makes you think PSN data isn't being sniffed right now?
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Dear Sony, Please get your **** together and stop this embarrassment.
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« Reply #1071 on: June 05, 2011, 01:17:15 PM »
Well, on the bright side, if PSN does get hacked again maybe we'll get some more free games out of the deal. What will Sony offer in Customer Appreciation Program 2.0?
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« Reply #1072 on: June 05, 2011, 01:37:47 PM »
Anyone who gives a **** about their customers would not do that. That's why I say anyone who is a fan of Sony is a submissive masochist who loves to be treated like dirt. That's the only way it can be explained why someone would be a fan of them.

You'd think, at least. The entire rootkit fiasco should have turned everyone off to them years ago. Never mind all of their dirty, underhanded legal battles against the competition.

I'd imagine a lot of people don't care or don't want to care. For certain, they wouldn't care about the lawsuits. As for the music CD root kits, that maybe all forgotten given how a lot of music is available digitally now. For the time between, perhaps some Sony fans didn't care about Sony-published music and thought the news and company practices doesn't affect them. Even now with the network hacks, there may still be Sony fans that like their electronics, cameras, or other equipment for some reason or another.

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« Reply #1073 on: June 05, 2011, 03:02:29 PM »
Even now with the network hacks, there may still be Sony fans that like their electronics, cameras, or other equipment for some reason or another.

Yeah, I can see how some people might like overpriced, yet completely mediocre hardware that's often locked down with ridiculous DRM and proprietary file formats and media. You got it right in the first sentence, most people just don't care. It's all about brand, and Sony is somehow still riding on their reputation from the 70s and 80s.


What will Sony offer in Customer Appreciation Program 2.0?

They'll give everyone free Xboxes!
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