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Re: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never!
« Reply #175 on: February 26, 2011, 06:47:16 PM »
This thread has gonna get locked. Everyone needs to calm down.
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« Reply #176 on: February 26, 2011, 06:48:09 PM »
This thread has gonna get locked. Everyone needs to calm down.

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« Reply #177 on: February 26, 2011, 06:48:36 PM »
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« Reply #178 on: February 26, 2011, 06:50:22 PM »
Civil and rational are a two item combo. This thread only had one of them. I felt sarcasm was a suitable replacement in order to produce civil sarcasm.
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Re: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never!
« Reply #179 on: February 26, 2011, 06:54:35 PM »
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Re: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never!
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2011, 01:32:00 PM »
It's just a preliminary injunction, but I guess the judge who did it wants more time to examine the complaint. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony get it overturned while the case plays out (since I think that is what usually happens in situations like this). I am not convinced LG has a legit complaint, although I am not a patent lawyer so I can't say.
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« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2011, 01:34:34 PM »
Well tens of thousands of consoles have already been confiscated by European Customs, and this will last for at least 10 days.
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« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2011, 01:37:20 PM »
Uh-oh...looks like this LG case has some merit - PS3 systems not being imported into Europe, being seized by customs...

Hmm...interesting.  I'll be curious to see how long this temporary injunction lasts.  It could just be a precautionary thing while the judge is looking over all the preliminary evidence.
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« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2011, 01:37:55 PM »
Unless Sony gets an appeal before that. Sony could lose a lot of money if the injunction lasts more than a few days. This does give Sony grounds to counter-sue though as they are losing revenue because of LG's actions (assuming Sony wins the original suit). I am very surprised though that LG managed to find a judge who would grant an injunction.
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Re: PSN = Privacy? Security? Never!
« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2011, 01:40:04 PM »
It's just a preliminary injunction, but I guess the judge who did it wants more time to examine the complaint. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony get it overturned while the case plays out (since I think that is what usually happens in situations like this). I am not convinced LG has a legit complaint, although I am not a patent lawyer so I can't say.

But doesn't this mean that Sony is guilty and should be fined 700million Euros or something. Obviously Sony has unquestionably done wrong since the law has taken action against them and we all know how you feel about that....

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« Reply #186 on: February 28, 2011, 01:43:20 PM »
Nice troll bait.

Preliminary injunctions don't really mean much, especially in patent cases since they usually are just so the judge has more time to examine the complaints.
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« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2011, 01:46:02 PM »
hahaha I called it.

quote or hover over the .... at the end of my previous post.
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« Reply #188 on: February 28, 2011, 01:50:15 PM »
Posts that say "I am very surprised though that LG managed to find a judge who would grant an injunction" mean even less than said preliminary injunctions, espcially since you have said your degree is in not being a patent lawyer.
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« Reply #189 on: February 28, 2011, 01:53:29 PM »
So are you BNM, you have become a troll lately and I know you just smited me. I was engaging in a actual conversation when you decided to derail it.

Brandogg, what I meant is that judges are people too and they each feel differently on issues. LG tried to find a judge that they felt would support their claims. Lawyers always try to find a judge that will likely side with what their client wants (doesn't always work since you can't predict what they will do, but you look at how they have rules in similar situations in the past).
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« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2011, 02:08:19 PM »
I've become a troll lately?

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that's hilarious. I call you on the things you are posting and honestly try to figure out why you are thinking what you do and that is trolling? Then I point out some hypocrisy on your stance based on the comments you have posted in this very thread and I am trolling?

Then you continue on this smiting rampage across the forums (we all know you are obsessed with applaud and smite) as if most of us even give a damn about that score on the side of the screen as if it means anything at all. I call you on your comment and predict you will smite me again. You do, I continue to not care, and we can rewind and start the process all over again and again if you like.

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« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2011, 02:26:30 PM »
Ugh, I'm starting to think that the mods are going to have to ban PS3 piracy/hacking/legal talk in these threads, right up there with politics; religion; and the Great Pum-...yeah.   ;)   All it has seemed to do of late is create hostility, which is odd because this is usually a pretty friendly board.   :-\
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« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2011, 02:34:13 PM »
You've got a lot of nerve making a post calling for civility with that signature.
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« Reply #193 on: February 28, 2011, 02:38:58 PM »
You've got a lot of nerve making a post calling for civility with that signature.

Well, it's true.  I put that signature up after I got something like 40 smites basically for taking a skeptically neutral position in these threads and rarely posting: I'm anti-piracy and I don't like most of these hackers (and view several as utter losers, such as that one in Germany who got raided and cried out that Sony should basically kill him because he just can't live without hacking   ::) ), but willing to see what happens with them in the legal system.  There are those in these threads, however, that seem to delight in any bit of flesh they can bite off of Sony, and relish in watching it hurt.  That this is a Nintendo-focused site does not hurt those odds.  I think that's what governs a lot of what we've seen in these threads.
 
I'd be completely willing to pull the signature (it was only meant to be a temporary thing, anyway, as I was pretty angry with several posters here when I made it) if people will just knock it off and stop starting fights/throwing smites every 5 minutes.
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« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2011, 02:50:10 PM »
Most of the people defending the hackers (myself, Brandogg, Morari, and others) would be taking the exact same stance if Nintendo were using the same tactics against the Wii homebrew community. I have the Homebrew Channel installed on my Wii, which I've never used for piracy (unless you count a little playing around with emulators), and I would like to try PS3 hacking to expand the multimedia applications of the hardware if I weren't afraid of Sony coming after me.
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« Reply #195 on: February 28, 2011, 03:20:44 PM »
I thought TJ believed in and supported the law? Now he's saying this judge is wrong?

Hey TJ, LG is a big wealthy corporation just like Sony is so its okay if you kiss their ass too. Its not like they are some lone individual like that hacker guy. Or is it that you only kiss Sony's ass? What is your reason for that? After all, it is Sony is clearly guilty and have stolen LG's intellectual property. You are siding with the thieves.
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« Reply #196 on: February 28, 2011, 04:01:11 PM »
Where in the mother **** did you fnd this info about LG hand-picking a judge, and how in the motherfuck can you assume Sony has not been doing the same thing? Also you continue to accuse George Hotz and graf_chokolo of criminal activity, but never go into detaail ever. If you knew ANYTHING about the situation, what crime graf has committed is pretty obvious.
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« Reply #197 on: February 28, 2011, 04:12:31 PM »
Finally. please tell me what crime this was because I have admittedly have not read all these links and the ones I have read I don't really have a full understanding on exactly what crime was committed and what kind of trouble the "criminal" should be expecting.

I've asked several times, but never got an informative answer.

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« Reply #198 on: February 28, 2011, 04:18:24 PM »
You've got a lot of nerve making a post calling for civility with that signature.
I'd be completely willing to pull the signature [...]  if people will just knock it off and stop starting fights/throwing smites every 5 minutes.

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« Reply #199 on: February 28, 2011, 04:22:53 PM »
You've got a lot of nerve making a post calling for civility with that signature.
I'd be completely willing to pull the signature [...]  if people will just knock it off and stop starting fights/throwing smites every 5 minutes.

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