Topic: Xbox720 - that's 2 full revolutions - not till 2014? ~News/Rumor/Speculation~

[tendoboy1984]

Also looks like EA already has next gen dev kits.
 http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/08/16/ea-labels-president-ive-seen-ps4-and-xbox-720

That article said nothing about EA having dev kits. EA's president simply said that he had "seen" the next Xbox and PS4. That article was too vague, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that dev kits are out in the wild.

[NWR_insanolord]

So that means Next Xbox will come with a touch screen?

Wouldn't it be funny if they had been planning that all along to go with their interface, and then Nintendo showed the Wii U last year which would make it look like Microsoft was just copying Nintendo?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Also looks like EA already has next gen dev kits.
 http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/08/16/ea-labels-president-ive-seen-ps4-and-xbox-720

That article said nothing about EA having dev kits. EA's president simply said that he had "seen" the next Xbox and PS4. That article was too vague, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that dev kits are out in the wild.

But dev kits are out in the wild....

[NWR_insanolord]

If either of them is coming out next year, dev kits have to be out at this point, unless they don't plan on launching with any software.

[shingi_70]

See Microsoft "didn't abandon the core" they just decided to expand their customer base and it worked and they are probably going to end this Gen at #2.

So Microsoft pulled a Nintendo? Ironic.

 

See Microsoft "didn't abandon the core" they just decided to expand their customer base and it worked and they are probably going to end this Gen at #2.

So Microsoft pulled a Nintendo? Ironic.

More like taking a lage out of nintendo well throughout playbooks. Microsoft just decided to focus on serrvices instead of casuel games. Xbla still has a lot of core games so it balances out.


Published by Microsoft this year

Retail
 Halo 4
Forza Horizon
Fable: The Journey
Dance Central 3
Kinect Sports: Ultimate Collection
Kinect Sesame Street TV
Kinect Nat Geo TV
Nike+ Kinect Training
Kinect Star Wars
Witcher 2
Steel Battalion. Heavy Armor

Arcade
Charlie Murder
Super Time Force
Dragon's Lair
Alan Wake's American Nightmare
South Park: Tenorman's Revenge
Fable Heroes
Deadlight
Sine Mora
Dungeon Fighter Live
Bloodforge
Fez
The Splatters
Joe Danger: The Movie
Haunt
Happy Action Theater
Spelunky
Skulls of the Shogun
Trials Evolution
BattleBlock Theater
Fire Pro Wrestling
Dust: An Elysian Tail
Diabolical Pitch
Crimson Dragon
Minecraft
Mark of the Ninja
Wreckateer
 Joy Ride Turbo
Avatar Motocross Madness
Happy Wars
Hybrid
Castlestrom
Untitled music game
Mush
wordamont
Shoot1up
Foul play

I'd say Sony has also done well in this regard with alot of core M titles launching earlier this year and the holiday season being very nintendoish.

Also on EA its been rumored that they have had early 720 dev kits since E3 2011.

Anywho was thinking about Microsoft and building up for next gen. They have a tton of really good franchises that could be utilised wisely. The biggest being would be the Shadowrun Universe. If I were Microsoft I would be looking at picking up the developers who's lisencing the IP from me.

Have Hairbrained Schemes begin working on a sequel to ShadowRun returns for xbox and PC download.
Port Shadowrun online to 720.
Have a developer such as Obsidian begin working on a big budget RPG. (Obsdian was rumored to be working on a 720 game that got canned. Maybe the success of the southpark game and obsdian being a cheap buy would start that project again)

Microsoft would alsoxbe purchasing Hairbrained schemes and have them be over the dhadpwrun IP and have pretty much free regin what to do with the series in the same way 343i has with Halo.

[BlackNMild2k1]

If either of them is coming out next year, dev kits have to be out at this point, unless they don't plan on launching with any software.

From what I was told (by a credible source), was that they are both planned to come out next year, but Xbox may slip into 2014.

Another rumor I heard (from the internets) was that MS scrapped or revamped whatever it was they were planning, to go with something completely different (different chips at the last minute?), and that Xbox may slip into early 2014 because of it.

[ShyGuy]

It would benefit their bottom line to let it slip to 2014. Sony too, really.

[Chozo Ghost]

It would benefit their bottom line to let it slip to 2014. Sony too, really.

It would also benefit Nintendo's bottom line. So its a win-win for everyone.

[shingi_70]

The 720 and PS4 could both easily slip into 2014 but it wouldn't be the interest to either involved. For Microsoft they want to try everything to dodge the third console curse. That and they don't wa t to give nintendo a two year headstart. The biggest reason is currently Microsoft owns the living room in north America with all of the services and TV apps the leaked Microsoft document pretty much confrimed that the next xbox will have a more focus on that as well as games. With the Nexus Q being delayed to "make it better" and heavily investing in better youtube channels and the next apple TV being poised to finally tackle the app and cable issues it seems Microsoft would be daft not to release the follow up in what is going to be a growing sector in the tech space thatit already has a lead in.

That's where the two rumored sky's probably come into place.

Though if anyone is going to launch in 2014 its going to be Sony.

[Do_What]

Microsoft is releasing a new console next year. It only makes sense from where their products are. They're releasing a bunch of stuff at the end of this year and if there's any success with windows 8 and windows phone 8 and so forth they'll want to carry that momentum into next year.

[shingi_70]

Yeah I'm guessing its going to be announced this year either at build or the vgas. Why else would microsoft have a spotlight on the xbox at a. Developers confrence.


Also really hoping they open up the app building sdk open to the general dev community. Would make surfing contentabetter experience than just opening up youtube. Having different apps for different media outlets orwebsites would be great.

[ShyGuy]

Is it just me or is shingi_70 a big Microsoft fan?

[tendoboy1984]

Is it just me or is shingi_70 a big Microsoft fan?

Rhetorical question? Everyone here knows shingi_70 is a big Microsoft fan.

[shingi_70]

So microsoft unveiled their new logo today



As well as neowin made a diagram showing all of the new microsoft product logos.



 http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/microsoft-brand-family-2012-3.png

And all of microsofts games for the fall have been dated.

Kinect Seasme Street TV - September 16th


Kinect Nat Geo TV - September 18th


Kinect Sports: Ultimate Edtion - September 18th


Fable The Journey - October 9th


Dance Central 3 - October 16th


Forza Horizon - October 23rd


Nike+ Kinect Training - October 30th


Halo 4 - November 6th



Also kinect got a $40 price drop to prepare for the wii u launch.

[Ceric]

2 of those games are different.
2 of those games don't belong.





Also NOOOOOOO.  There getting rid of my Penguiny looking Outlook logo on Phone 7.

[Ian Sane]

Looking at the Kinect games, are they all casual bullshit because this is all the concept is capable of or is it just that that's what MS (and pretty much everybody) associates motion control with and thus it's self-fulfilling prophecy?  If Nintendo launched the Wii with something like Metroid Prime 3 or Skyward Sword instead of Wii Sports would this all be different?

"TV you can play!" sounds like some slogan a marketer would have come up with in the 70's to sell home versions of Pong.  Yeah, we've been "playing our TVs" for a long time already, Microsoft.

[tendoboy1984]

Looking at the Kinect games, are they all casual bullshit because this is all the concept is capable of or is it just that that's what MS (and pretty much everybody) associates motion control with and thus it's self-fulfilling prophecy?  If Nintendo launched the Wii with something like Metroid Prime 3 or Skyward Sword instead of Wii Sports would this all be different?

"TV you can play!" sounds like some slogan a marketer would have come up with in the 70's to sell home versions of Pong.  Yeah, we've been "playing our TVs" for a long time already, Microsoft.

Out of all those games, the only ones that appeal to the traditional Xbox audience are Forza and Halo 4. Way to s.h.i.t all over your fanbase Microsoft.

Oh the irony. Nintendo is going after the "core" gamers with the Wii U, while Microsoft has turned a complete 180* and shifted focus towards casual games. Sony has a good balance between the two.

[shingi_70]

But it is TV you interact with

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqKcSN2bpH4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpsbsrikk1A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDRLH2oyNs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbyam95NMQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player


A far more intresting use of. The technology than what the wiimote was doing. The fable game is a core game I guess.  Also just because a game isn't targeting us doesn't means automaticlly bullshit.


Also looks like Microsoft has started its advertising campagin for the surface tablets in williamsburg






Also microsoft is launching an election hub 360 app next week. Its going to allow people to follow the election as well as hopefully livestream the debates.

 http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/8/23/3263278/election-2012-hub-xbox-live-microsoft-interactive-tv-polling

[shingi_70]

Out of all those games, the only ones that appeals to the traditional Xbox audience are Forza and Halo 4. Way to s.h.i.t all over your fanbase Microsoft.

Oh the irony. Nintendo is going after the "core" gamers with the Wii U, while Microsoft has turned a complete 180* and shifted focus towards casual games. Sony has a good balance between the two.

Because Wii Fit U and Sing are so very hardcore.

Microsoft has been keeping the core contained with xbla this year man.

Alan Wake's American Nightmare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWCNOJK1DQs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Trails Evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43tj8X7dQ2s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Bloodforge
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6K66nu6WM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Fable Heroes
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Op35vRN48&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Dust: an elysian tale
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Op35vRN48&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Mark of Ninja
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtsVb9P9Ko&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Crimson Dragon
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wTg7LLrfII&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Haunt
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAA1N7_Tzo0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Diabolical pitch
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8H-DgAZGpg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Spelunky
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rprWoV38j2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[ShyGuy]

Shovelware, waggle games, tired sequels; Microsoft is really following the Nintendo playbook!

[NWR_insanolord]

Way to s.h.i.t all over your fanbase Microsoft.

Don't bypass the filter. Either turn it off in your forum profile or deal with the censored version.

[TJ Spyke]

Fable Heroes is hardly "hardcore", it's pretty casual (and has a mediocre 55 average). All of those are Xbox Live Arcade games (so the 35% of non-online 360 owners can't get them), and most of them are not actually developed by them, so they are barely involved. Only 2 of their retail games for the rest of the year are "core" games, which is sad.

[tendoboy1984]

Way to s.h.i.t all over your fanbase Microsoft.

Don't bypass the filter. Either turn it off in your forum profile or deal with the censored version.

I went to my profile and couldn't find a way to turn off the filter. There wasn't a link.

[NWR_insanolord]

Way to s.h.i.t all over your fanbase Microsoft.

Don't bypass the filter. Either turn it off in your forum profile or deal with the censored version.

I went to my profile and couldn't find a way to turn off the filter. There wasn't a link.

My mistake, it's under the Look and Layout section. I went ahead and turned it off for you.

[shingi_70]

What makes fable heroes non hardcore.

Exclusive content is exclusive content. Microsoft does fund most of those games though.

Id consider most of sonys psn content a boon and its not done internally either.

Still find it ironic that people are calling games shovelware just because of the platform on a nintendo website.

Also another surface ad has surfaced.