Topic: Mindless Batman 3 Speculation Thread

[Halbred]

What's Known: They're working on Batman 3 right now. The Joker will not be in it, because Nolan has said that he will not replace Heath Ledger (and he should not). This movie will be Nolan's last Batman film, as he wants the trilogy to be a complete story.
 
What's Rumored: The dude from Inception and 3rd Rock from the Sun might've been cast as Edward Nigma, and Tom Hardy (also from Inception) has supposedly just been cast as an unknown villain. Two-Face may come back in some capacity.
 
My Mindless Speculation: Robin will not be introduced. He doesn't fit into Nolan's version of Batman. Although I'm sad about it, I doubt Catwoman will appear either. I think Riddler would make a great villain, although he might be difficult to create action around. I think Hardy might make a good Penguin. Before Tim Burton ruined the character, the Penguin was a proper but evil businessman who ran a swanky club that he used as a meeting place for backdoor crime deals. He was essentially a mob boss, and he could be modified to BE a mob boss in Nolan's universe. I don't know if Hardy fits the profile, but anything's possible.
 

[broodwars]

Two-Face may come back in some capacity.

I'm not sure how that's possible given that I believe Two-Face died at the end of Dark Knight.
 
I'd be happy to see a Nolan take on the Riddler.  Even though I enjoyed the Carrey version of the character, there have been some great darker versions of the character like the one in The Batman.  I'd love to see him take on Clayface as well, but that character might be too fantastical for this universe.  Maybe Black Mask then?  He hasn't appeared in a previous Live Action movie.  I wouldn't mind a minor role for the Penguin, too.

[Kytim89]

I actually like this thread because me and my friend were discussin this topic a while back.
 
Here is what I am speculating about the film:
 
The Scarecrow will not return in this film, but in his lace will be Firefly. I imagine the film starting out with Firefly trying to burn down an apartment complex. Batman ends up stopping his plan, but gets slightly burned(keeping with Nolan's idea of Batman being injured) on his forarms.  Once it is over, Batman has to flee from the police on the Batpod.
 
The first two movies dealt with the idea of escalation and since the Joker's escalation all most sent Gotham City into anarchy, Batman in this film will try to supress any villians that try to rise up in the power vaccum created by the Joker. This attempt would prove futile as the film goes on, but Batman learns a crucial lesson in that there will always be villians and escalation and that he is the only keeping Gotham City from tearing itself apart. 
 
Some how Batman will redeem himself in the eyes of the Police and the public.
 
Commisioner Gordan will lead a task force specifically for hunting Batman(more serious in this film than part 2), but he will still be in leauge with Batman. The writers could introduce a Federal agent over seeing the capture of Batman who also buts heads with Gordan for socializing with Batman.
 
Bruce Wayne will try to use his finances to correct some of the wrongs done by the Joker. This would be more in line with his philanthropy and he would also pay to have Gotham General rebuilt. This would be like a pincer attack where both persona of Batman fight crime to curb its power.
 
The Tumbler will return in some capacity, and since Wayne manor will be rebuilt, the Batcave will make an appearance too.

[NWR_Neal]

Firefly? Out of all of Batman's enemies, you think Firefly will be in it?

I'd love to see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as The Riddler, as long as Nolan and co. can make him not ridiculous. After the first two films, I have complete faith they'll do it.

[Caliban]

Is Christian bale going to be Batman again?

[Kytim89]

Firefly? Out of all of Batman's enemies, you think Firefly will be in it?

I'd love to see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as The Riddler, as long as Nolan and co. can make him not ridiculous. After the first two films, I have complete faith they'll do it.

Firefly would be easy for Nolan to write into his version of the franchise. Simlpy make him a serial arsonist named "Firefly." Why is that so hard?
 
After the GI Joe, I just can not see Joeph Gordon-Levitt as a viable villian. 

[Halbred]

Is Christian bale going to be Batman again?

Yes, and Gary Oldman is still Commissioner Gordon, and Michael Caine is still Alfred Pennyworth. Am I the only one who's happy that What's Her Name is finally dead, and that her character never should have been introduced in the first place?

[Kytim89]

I have heared rumors that the film is going to be filmed in IMAX for the entire film because the Nolan does not like 3D. Also, I liked Katey Holmes as Rachel from the first movie, but found the second chick to not be as hot as her. Lastly, there is another rumor saying that the second Doctot Who from the new series wil be the Riddler. I would rather see him play the part than that Third Rock from the Sun guy.

[nickmitch]

Is Christian bale going to be Batman again?

Yes, and Gary Oldman is still Commissioner Gordon, and Michael Caine is still Alfred Pennyworth. Am I the only one who's happy that What's Her Name is finally dead, and that her character never should have been introduced in the first place?

Nope.

Anyway, I think Penguin or Scarface and the Ventilloquist woud make great "B villians" for the next movie. Nolan seems to like the organized crime side of Batman's rogues gallery, and I think those two are the most interesting. Penguin because he's just perfect for that situation. With Scarface, it can really play up the psychosis thing and posibly add a bit of mystery to his character which would play off very well with a Riddler based story.

[Kytim89]

Is Christian bale going to be Batman again?

Yes, and Gary Oldman is still Commissioner Gordon, and Michael Caine is still Alfred Pennyworth. Am I the only one who's happy that What's Her Name is finally dead, and that her character never should have been introduced in the first place?

Nope.

Anyway, I think Penguin or Scarface and the Ventilloquist woud make great "B villians" for the next movie. Nolan seems to like the organized crime side of Batman's rogues gallery, and I think those two are the most interesting. Penguin because he's just perfect for that situation. With Scarface, it can really play up the psychosis thing and posibly add a bit of mystery to his character which would play off very well with a Riddler based story.

Friefly would also make a good "B villian" for the purpose of introducing Batman into the film.

[UncleBob]

I'm not sure how that's possible given that I believe Two-Face died at the end of Dark Knight.

Seriously, have you ever read a comic?

The idea of Firefly is actually a pretty good one - he's a realistic B-List villain that would fit in pretty well in the Nolanverse.  The only concern I have is that the mass audience might think he's some kind of Mr. Freeze rip-off.

I've read rumors of Killer Croc.  I like that idea.  If you don't make him a giant Crocodile-Man and, instead, make him a large man with crazy tattoos or some kind of disease , he could fit.

I hope Nolan doesn't go with the Riddler.  Not that I don't like the Riddler, but I can't see working him into the Nolanverse without making him look too much like the Joker who leaves clues.

Dr. Hugo Strange could be fun.

A more grounded version of the Mad Hatter would be interesting.

And - to pull from the C list of villains... Lock Up.  I could see him as an ex-prison guard/asylum guard who somehow forms a grudge against Batman.

[broodwars]

I'm not sure how that's possible given that I believe Two-Face died at the end of Dark Knight.

Seriously, have you ever read a comic?

This is the Nolan Batman universe, where we don't have magic or lazarus pits so I find the possibility of that situation occurring unlikely.  : :

[NWR_Neal]

I just think Firefly is a terrible villain.

For anyone who just wants to write off Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the "3rd Rock from the Sun" kid, watch something he's done (not G.I. Joe) in the past five years. Kid's got acting chops.

[Kytim89]

I just think Firefly is a terrible villain.

For anyone who just wants to write off Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the "3rd Rock from the Sun" kid, watch something he's done (not G.I. Joe) in the past five years. Kid's got acting chops.

I did watch Stop Loss and thought he was good in that, but the guy is too wimpy to be a credible villian, even for the Riddler.

[NWR_Neal]

The Riddler IS wimpy. Also, dudes can bulk up if need be.

[Kytim89]

The Riddler IS wimpy. Also, dudes can bulk up if need be.

I had heared rumors that Johnny Depp was going to play the Riddler. An evil version of Willy Wonka blended with the Riddler would be cool. Also, I am not hating on Levitt, but I will have to see him acting as the Riddler before hand.

[NWR_Neal]

Well, you know we all saw Heath Ledger play the Joker before the The Dark Knight and that turned out awful /sarcasm

[that Baby guy]

Anybody read Batman: The Dark Knight Returns?  It's a imagined conclusion to Batman, essentially. I would definitely like to see a fourth movie, in five or so years time, perhaps, inspired by this particular work. It would fit what we've seen so well, especially since it and Batman: Year One are practically built upon each other in character-base and themes, and so much of Nolan's Batman is based on Year One and it's related books.

[ShyGuy]

I'm curious to see where Nolan takes this. So far he has followed a similar character arc as the comics.

In Batman year one, Bruce finds himself and is finally able to strike back at crime when he becomes the Batman.
In Batman year two, Bruce loses his ally in D.A. Harvey Dent and loses hope.
In Batman year three, he rescues Richard Grayson after his parents are murdered and finds hope and another ally.

Nolan has said he isn't going to use Robin, so I'm curious to see where he takes this.

[Stratos]

I'm not sure how that's possible given that I believe Two-Face died at the end of Dark Knight.

Seriously, have you ever read a comic?

This is the Nolan Batman universe, where we don't have magic or lazarus pits so I find the possibility of that situation occurring unlikely.  : : :

I've heard some interesting theories that could lead to Harvey remaining alive . Like Batman locking him up and faking his death so no one knew he had become a monster . But there is one problem (unless it is retconned). In the actual script for Dark Knight it states that Harvey fell and broke his neck .

Nolan may not use Robin directly, but he could include the beginnings of it. Thrown in the orphan boy that Bruce takes in and leave it at that. Let people fill in the blanks of assuming that he becomes Robin some day (and maybe future movies will include him). If they did include a 'Robin' in the films I'd rather it be farther down the line and make it like the cartoon Batman Beyond where a boy discovers the truth of Batman and becomes the next Batman.

[Caliban]

Is Christian bale going to be Batman again?

Yes

Oh darn. I'm not excited about that.

[ThePerm]

i was thinking about starting a similar thread

On Nolan works, I've seen every film of his except for inception(missed it at the theaters waiting for it on DVD), even old short films he did at the beginning. What is going to be explored is one person's relationship with another and how it plays out is not going to be obvious.

As far as cast goes, a lot of people do their casting based on looks. These are professional actors, they are payed to be some character for 3 months, so the person who looks exactly like the character is not going to get the part, also the person who has played similar roles is also not going to take the part or get the part. Some actors are going to become big names in the future simply by being associated that they might get the part. The studio is going to let Nolan do what he wants. He made Dark Knight and made them a ton of money, so they let him make inception as his pet project...and it did really well. So, the studio probably won't force names into roles. Not only that he has some seniority now, and because of this he now has his hands in Superman.

Heres my take on the continuing story as far as it goes. Harvey's dead and they had to put the blame on the dark knight. His relationship with Gordon will be strained, and ultimately Gordon might get in trouble. Now as far as villains go its going to be hard. Just because a villain is popular doesn't mean Nolan is going to use them. Now on one hand maybe that is one thing the studio will have control over. Anyways back to plot line. Bruce's body by now is taking its toll, as crazy as Alfred is for playing along with Bruce's game he's becoming legitimately concerned. At this point he is consumed by being batman making his nightly avengings. Things are dull though, no one big has been around since the joker got put away. Thats going to change as there are bigger things at hand going down. Somebody is going find out who batman is. Now if joker didn't kill Mr. Reese somebody is going to get the information out of him.

possible villains. I'm interested in a Nolan take on Catwoman. Not the super=powered i fell off of a building Catwoman, just your regular burglar. A really hard to catch one. One of Nolan's first films was a film called Following and it was about burglary. It was really good.

ultimately Superman will come out of nowhere, and Batman will retire.

[Halbred]

New speculation bait:

An interview with Chris Nolan has revealed the following two bits of information:

1) The movie's title: The Dark Knight Rises
2) The Riddler is not the villain

Speculations resume!

[that Baby guy]

Rampant speculations: Riddle is the hero.

[ThePerm]

if the dark knight was bruces manhood, than catwomen is one of the villains