Author Topic: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Discussion (Read 234252 times)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #725 on:** January 31, 2004, 02:54:38 PM »

MGS3 is a prequel, so it wouldn't matter if they had played the first two or not...

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #726 on:** January 31, 2004, 03:49:09 PM »

I just read the past 6 posts, and I have no clue how mentioning MGS3 is related to any of this.

WTF

Blade2T33 · « **Reply #727 on:** February 01, 2004, 12:30:15 AM »

Id be more of a Metal gear solid fan my self , Splinter cell is good and all but its story line just ist as exiting. I just skip al the talking crap in SC just to get to the game.

boggy b · « **Reply #728 on:** February 02, 2004, 10:05:42 AM »

I've had aread back through this thread, and I'm a little angry that people are referring to this game as Dennis Dyack's. It's not. It's Hideo Kojima's. All Dennis and SK are doing really are revamping the graphics (using an engine that Hideo's team created) and remaking all the models (which Hideo's team made in the first place).

If Hideo's game wasn't a classic in the first place (even as far back as the MSX version of MG) then there'd BE no Twin Snakes. I think you should all bear that in mind.

Also, the bundle seems cool, but I really hope the original MG they include is the MSX version. The NES version is horrible.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #729 on:** February 02, 2004, 11:18:45 AM »

Boggy, no one is claiming Metal Gear Solid is Dyack's- they're claiming Twin Snakes is Dyack's, which it most definitely is (or rather Silicon Knights' in general). Silicon Knights is the one remaking the game- they're not using the MGS2 engine, they're rebuilding the game from the ground up for the Gamecube. And it's not just a port with prettier graphics- everyone should know that by now. The game has been heavily revamped, and those additions and this remake are justifiably credited to Denis Dyack and Silicon Knights.

SearanoX · « **Reply #730 on:** February 02, 2004, 11:33:39 AM »

Thanks for putting this guy in his place, mouse_clicker - I was just about to do the same, when I saw your post. Saved me some time, you did.

Yes, the game is going to be completely different. Many things have been modified, lengthened, or added in compeltely. It also does not use the MGS2 engline, as mouse_clicker stated - it merely uses a near carbon copy graphical style, which looks much nicer than MGS2, what with higher-poly models, environments, and bump mapping on most things (although the animation seems to just as good as MGS2, if not better (amazingly), which could be Konami's work). Sound has also been completely redone, with quite a few conversations changed around to make things more clear and cinematic. Cutscenes are also much longer and action-packed as well.

It's Silikon Knights' game, not Konami's. Konami is merely overseeing the production so it's done to their satisfaction, nothing much more.

vudu · « **Reply #731 on:** February 02, 2004, 11:56:53 AM »

i'm actually really sick of hearing that all twin snakes is is "the original mgs storyline with mgs2 gameplay". that's how both ebgames.com and gamestop.com are advertising twin snakes.

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description on: ebgames.comSolid Snake infiltrates the Nintendo GameCube in Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. Combining the story of Metal Gear Solid with the graphics and gameplay of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes delivers a Metal Gear Solid experience like no other. Get in gear with the first exclusive Metal Gear Solid for Nintendo GameCube!

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description on: gamestop.comExperience the original Metal Gear Solid reinvented with next-generation graphics and gameplay [...] from Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, such as hanging from ledges, in the the world of the original Metal Gear Solid.

they're making the game out to be little more than the equivalent of an expansion pack to mgs2. this is not going to help sell the game to people who don't bother to look any further than the press release for twin snakes.

if nintendo doesn't do something to set the record straight, i fear many people will pass this game up in favor of pandora tomorrow which doesn't have "unnecessary remake" hanging over its head.

Berny · « **Reply #732 on:** February 02, 2004, 05:37:24 PM »

IGN actually bothered to report that MGS is shipping earlier than expected. The trailers say March 11 when in fact, we'll get it on March 9.

Seeing as these things always seem to release 2 days later where I live, I'll look forward to the March 11 release date. ^_^

Aretak · « **Reply #733 on:** February 04, 2004, 06:00:26 AM »

I still have some money put aside to buy this... I'm surprised I've managed to get by without spending it actually.

Armed · « **Reply #734 on:** February 04, 2004, 07:52:58 AM »

Yes im getting it as soon as it comes out!!!

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #735 on:** February 04, 2004, 05:17:10 PM »

IGN has a crap load of new movies, pictures and impressions up for all those interested.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/490/490066p1.html

Berny · « **Reply #736 on:** February 05, 2004, 11:22:52 AM »

I can't watch any more of their movies. I've seen too much. I want to forget it all before I play it.

SearanoX · « **Reply #737 on:** February 05, 2004, 11:58:20 AM »

Downloaded every single one of them a little earlier. All I can say is that it is far, far better than I had ever expected. The work that they have done is just downright amazing. They've also seemed to have fixed up the facial animations so talking looks much, much better. I'm slightly worried about the framerate being a bit on the choppy side, but hopefully they'll have that ironed out soon.

*goes back to drooling*

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #738 on:** February 05, 2004, 04:34:19 PM »

For those interested in further spoiling the game, new images and an IGN insider video showing little easter eggs of Nintendo and Silicon Knights related materials hidden in the game.

More spoilers from IGN! Awesome.

yellowfellow · « **Reply #739 on:** February 06, 2004, 05:42:41 PM »

in case you happen to mosey on over to IGN, then don't read their N-Query... there is one question where they give away something about MGS:TS which personally, having played the original repeatedly i wouldn't have wanted to know.

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #740 on:** February 06, 2004, 07:59:57 PM »

I couldn't agree more... I was pretty upset with that spoiler-ific N-Query. Something they managed to spoil for someone who has played the game several, several times.

boggy b · « **Reply #741 on:** February 07, 2004, 03:25:00 AM »

But the game is essentially Metal Gear Solid. You can't deny that. All SK did is the coding, and no matter how good it is that doesn't change the fact that they did not create the concepts.

You can call it SK's all you want, but I am still of the opinion that it's Kojima's.

Bloodworth · « **Reply #742 on:** February 07, 2004, 09:05:26 AM »

Oh whatever. This arguing is senseless. It's a huge collaboration between SK, Nintendo, Konami, and film director Ryuhei Kitamura. Follow the link to find out who's responsible for what so you don't go giving credit to the wrong team. And here's the main page too.

Berny · « **Reply #743 on:** February 08, 2004, 12:43:48 PM »

Why does IGN have "secrets" for this game on their site? Did they get a finished version of the game? I hate them.

SearanoX · « **Reply #744 on:** February 08, 2004, 01:17:09 PM »

I don't think that they have a finished version. Their impressions say near-final build of the game, not final. Hopefully the framerate and such will be fixed up...that's starting to worry me.

Berny · « **Reply #745 on:** February 08, 2004, 01:40:20 PM »

Come ON. Has SK EVER let us down? NO! They are 1–1. ^_^

SearanoX · « **Reply #746 on:** February 08, 2004, 01:43:13 PM »

I hope so...but judging by the videos, the framerate did seem somewhat unstable...at times in the outdoor areas, but also in firefights - where it really counts to have a clean framerate.

Bloodworth · « **Reply #747 on:** February 08, 2004, 04:04:54 PM »

Please, those videos were so compressed. The last thing you want to do is use them to judge graphics quality.

SearanoX · « **Reply #748 on:** February 08, 2004, 04:18:03 PM »

I'm not judging the graphics quality from them. What I am doing is saying that the framerate is pretty choppy in places - and yes, you can notice the difference. Considering that it's not my computer lagging up or anything and that the video is recording at a low framerate, the only other possible explanation is that the framerate gets choppy. IGN also says that the framerate gets rather unsteady at times.

vudu · « **Reply #749 on:** February 10, 2004, 07:20:27 AM »

there's a great 41 question interview with denis dyack over at the ign boards. it's a great read. do yourself a favor, and don't read anything past denis' reply. the people over there are idiots. and their avatars/sigs hurt my eyes.

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Author Topic: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Discussion (Read 234252 times)