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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #675 on: January 16, 2004, 04:11:07 AM »
No Bonus disk here? Disapointing, Nintendo could have done something similar to Zelda here. Give us the NES game, some VR Missions  for Twin Snakes,  and some movies of upcoming games.  

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #676 on: January 16, 2004, 05:49:43 AM »
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You call Metroid Prime a shooter?

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Well, you do use a weapon. And it did use the inverted Y axis. I'm not saying its a first person shooter. I don't like those. Metroid Prime is my god.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and what are these "VR missions" of which all of you speak?
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #677 on: January 16, 2004, 06:53:11 AM »
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if there is no vr missions this game will suck big time ! the vr is the best part.
 dennis said in an interview over at ign that there won't be any vr missions.  sorry to disappoint.
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #678 on: January 16, 2004, 06:56:37 AM »
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Ah yes, a February 27 release date for Australia is all but confirmed. I will have this game before all of you, well most of you.. hopefully. My frothing demand for this game is increasing by the day.
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Metal Gear Solid delayed to March 12th.
 sorry, ol' chum, but i just had to say serves you right for rubbing it in our faces that you would get to play before us.  better luck next time.  
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #679 on: January 16, 2004, 07:28:33 AM »
i was just thinking in lecture today (my mind wanders alot), what if SK incorporated some new insanity effects into MGS, say in parts leading up until the fight with psycho mantis  
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #680 on: January 16, 2004, 01:15:22 PM »
Are these trailers revealing too much of the plot? I know all about some of Snake's enemies now. I hope that doesn't ruin the game.
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #681 on: January 16, 2004, 01:38:09 PM »
No, it shouldn't reveal all that much.  The game's storyline is still a mystery for those who don't know it...and I think that Silikon Knights is saving the best cinematics for the full game.  

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #682 on: January 16, 2004, 02:54:28 PM »
YES! Some of those fight scenes....oohhhhh.... they are AMAZING. I'm noticing some bullet time in there too. EVERYONE rips off the matrix. EVERYONE. I want this game so bad. SO bad. I think that I will eventually have to decide between this and FF: CC. I know where my fifty bucks is going. Right into the pockets of Denis Dyack, that wonderful man.
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #683 on: January 17, 2004, 01:57:26 AM »
as there is'nt going to be any vr in this i'd go for ff cc as this game will be very short if the ps1 version is anything to go by.
i can't belive they are leaving the best part out of the game .the original had vr so what kind of remake is this going to be without them .i've been looking forward to this for ages but now i dont think i'll bother .
konami should never have let this go to sk it will end up like the ps2 version of sol (poor) . if it is short konami will end up doing a substance type version of this for ps2 i will wait for that .

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #684 on: January 17, 2004, 02:09:01 AM »
then again it might have some snake tales and some sub senarios .
please please please put some snake tales in this .

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #685 on: January 17, 2004, 06:32:38 AM »
The game does not have VR.  They would have put it in, but they want to have the game out as soon as possible.  VR could mean delaying the game for close to another year.

Still, the game is loaded with replacements.  Unlockable characters, outfits, tons of easter eggs, blooper cinematics (not confirmed, but I'm assuming that since two are shown at the end of the latest trailer), and much more.  Silikon Knights is saying that there is much more stuff than in MGS2, although there are still no VR missions.  Still, if it means getting tons more secrets and unlockables, I'm all for it.

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #686 on: January 17, 2004, 08:01:15 AM »
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as there is'nt going to be any vr in this i'd go for ff cc as this game will be very short if the ps1 version is anything to go by.



A short but good game is worth it. This game according to the trailer has the best video game story ever. Final Fantasy has a simple story and is based on multiplayer. I've been waiting for this game for too long. I will probably buy this instead of Crystal Chronicles.

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #687 on: January 17, 2004, 08:18:39 AM »
the VR in the original MGS is nothing special, anyway.  The VR Missions game for PS1 is where it's at, if you really want to do VR stuff.  Once I played VR Missions, I never touched the boring, plain, VR stuff on MGS

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #688 on: January 17, 2004, 08:53:44 AM »
The game isn't going to be short.  The single player game is 20-30 hours depending on your skill.  For a shooter, that's pretty damn good for a single run through.  Obviously, it's possible to go faster, but that's the average.  

Tons of replay value as well.  VR isn't everything.  Like I said, hidden characters, costumes, unlockable cinematics, possibly extra weapons, most likely some mini-games, and more.

I'd take that over VR four days of the week.  

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #689 on: January 17, 2004, 09:00:01 AM »
Ha ha. Yay! Minigames. I am really looking forward to this. Especially after that 1/2 hour trailer. That showed a lot and there's got to be more. And like I said before, there is a lot Matrix references in there. Cyborg (maybe Snake dressed as Cyborg, I really don't know nor do I care to know yet) was fighting something with lots o' bullets and he was dodging them Neo style. They even had the trails behind the bullets. AHHH! I want this game so bad. What is it, two months left?
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #690 on: January 17, 2004, 09:20:31 AM »
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The game isn't going to be short.  The single player game is 20-30 hours depending on your skill.  For a shooter, that's pretty damn good for a single run through.  Obviously, it's possible to go faster, but that's the average.  

Tons of replay value as well.  VR isn't everything.  Like I said, hidden characters, costumes, unlockable cinematics, possibly extra weapons, most likely some mini-games, and more.

I'd take that over VR four days of the week.

I beat the original in just over 14 the day after I bought it.  they couldnt have added THAT much

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #691 on: January 17, 2004, 10:21:43 AM »
You never know. Those guys at SK are tricksy. By the way, was that good old Dyack in the Psycho Mantis scene? I thought I saw Hideo too.
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #692 on: January 17, 2004, 10:33:44 AM »
Yep,it was Dyack, Hideo, and Miyamoto in the pictures.  Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about when I refer to easter eggs...of course, there's going to be tons more hidden stuff as well..

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #693 on: January 17, 2004, 10:41:22 AM »
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blooper cinematics (not confirmed, but I'm assuming that since two are shown at the end of the latest trailer)


I am positive that those are not blooper cinematics, just reworked sequences.  Especially the scene where revolver ocelot is spinning his gun.  Revolver has something happen to his right hand , that being the hand he shoots with.  Kojima revealed that throughout the game he pratices spinning the gun on his left hand, before he becomes as good as he was with his right hand.

The other sequence was just a retooling of the old tank scene.

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #694 on: January 17, 2004, 10:57:25 AM »
Eh?  Doesn't he use a mechanical hand for his shooting and such?

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #695 on: January 17, 2004, 11:27:41 AM »
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Eh?  Doesn't he use a mechanical hand for his shooting and such?
not that I remember.  he was just that good.

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #696 on: January 17, 2004, 11:48:43 AM »
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Eh?  Doesn't he use a mechanical hand for his shooting and such?



Revolver doesn't use a mechanical hand, he's just absurdly good.
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #697 on: January 17, 2004, 02:35:08 PM »
Ah, but check the trailer...during the introduction, he's missing his hand, as well as when he's torturing Snake.  However later on, when Snake is fighting him, he has his hand.  It's obvious, because it shows both at once, and he even loads his gun.  That wouldn't really work with one hand.

So?  In the beginning he doesn't have a hand, and in the end, he does?  

Gah, didn't play enough of the game or remember the parts that I did play.  Can someone clear this up?    

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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #698 on: January 17, 2004, 03:36:49 PM »
well, obviously the "intro" is after the altercation where he loses his hand
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #699 on: January 17, 2004, 03:39:32 PM »
Yes but how does that explain the fact that he has his hand later on?