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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #550 on: October 11, 2003, 06:56:14 PM »
Heh... that's the one I downloaded on the first day it came out.  Which one were you watching?
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« Reply #551 on: October 12, 2003, 05:06:14 AM »
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #552 on: October 22, 2003, 08:14:06 AM »
I'm just getting extremely anxious waiting for it. I want this game more than any other on the Cube right now, and I have to wait until next year.

It's not fair...
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« Reply #553 on: October 22, 2003, 06:08:15 PM »
Sure it is. You wait longer, and it will be *WELL* worth it. The longer they take on it the happier I am. I have come to believe that delays are 90% of the time good and end up bettering the game. Occasionally however some people decide to "delay" games before they are CANCELED!!! Evil....
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #554 on: October 22, 2003, 06:13:51 PM »
You know what's not fair?  This game now comes out the same month Tales of Symphonia and maybe Tales of Phantasia come out...Not to mention Pokemon Colosseum...And all three are higher on my list than MGS...If I don't have enough money, I'll have to wait to play Twin Snakes...bah
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« Reply #555 on: October 22, 2003, 06:25:38 PM »
Woah woah woah! Back the truck up, son! What's this about Tales of Phantasia? WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED?!? Are they BOTH coming out? Jeez! Nintendo ownes my wallet. I'll go find a nifty Ninty sticker and stick it on or in there now.
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« Reply #556 on: October 22, 2003, 06:32:08 PM »
I believe Tales of Phantasia is coming out for the PS2, not the Gamecube.
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #557 on: October 22, 2003, 06:36:15 PM »
GBA my friend... ...ToP is indeed headed towards U.S. shores, but it really is only a rumor that it will be released in March...Of course, it would make sense to release the two at the same time...

And where in the world did you hear it was coming out for the PS2?

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edit: ahhh now I remember.  ToP was released for the original Playstation a long time ago...but not for the PS2!
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #558 on: October 22, 2003, 07:50:47 PM »
Yes, Tales of Phantasia is for GBA, not PS2.  I have no idea where that one came from.  This is the first I have heard of it making its way to the US though.  I don't buy many GBA games, but that one is a MUST have, since we were gyped out of the SNES version.

As for Metal Gear, there's plenty coming out between now and then, so I am not entirely displeased.  Besides, I am sure that the extra time will make for a much better game.
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« Reply #559 on: October 22, 2003, 08:08:26 PM »
A much better game with much lower sales- Nintendo only has Mario Kart slated for this Christmas to truly take advantage of the huge increase in Gamecube sales. I love both Nintendo and Silicon Knights' games, but deadles are there for a reason. I don't want Silicon Knights to turn into another Rare- taking forever to develop a game that doesn't sell well.

And right, GBA, PS2, same thing.

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« Reply #560 on: October 22, 2003, 10:08:40 PM »
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I don't want Silicon Knights to turn into another Rare- taking forever to develop a game that doesn't sell well.


Actually, there aren't too many Rare games that haven't sold well. Both Conker and Mickey's Racing, Rare's last 2 N64 games, sold very poorly, but I think you will find that this was more a result of the N64's early death than it was the quality of their product.

Having said that, I personally think Grabbed by the Ghoulies will struggle to reach a million units worldwide, which would be a very poor showing for their first Xbox game.

Silicon Knights could do a lot worse than turning into "another Rare". I am certainly in the majority with this, and whenever I mention it to my co-workers I get shot down in flames, but I though ED was extremely ordinary.


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« Reply #561 on: October 23, 2003, 02:24:11 AM »
Silicon Knights is also a LOT smaller than Rare, so comparing development times is hardly fair...
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #562 on: October 23, 2003, 09:39:41 AM »
My rabid anticipation for Metal Gear Solid is growing everyday.  The thought of waiting for it until next year is heart breaking.  Almost all my must have titles have been pushed into next year.  MGS:TTS, Half-Life 2, Tales of Symphonia, FF:Crystal Chronicles... all I have left for this year is Mario Kart and Knights of the Old Republic (PC).  I do have a crap load of games left to play through this year, but I am still saddened by the waits.
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #563 on: October 23, 2003, 09:42:40 AM »
StarFox Adventures also sold rather poorly, as did Perfect Dark, I think. Rare's games steadily sold less and less and they took longer and longer to make. Eternal Darkness took forever to make, and despite being one of the most incredible games I've ever played or ever will play, it sold horribly. I don't want Twin Snakes to turn out the same way- I doubt the Metal Gear name alone can carry the game.
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #564 on: October 23, 2003, 09:48:50 AM »
Let's hope it will be a big seller in any case, Nintendo will hopefully ( and rightfully so ) advertise the living christ out of it.

Still I was hoping to add this to my Christmas list, as it was one of my top major games this holiday.

I'm deeply intrested in Baten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia, they look awesome and would give FF a run for it's money.

Hopefully a new lengthy trailer will come out for MGS:TTS and show some new stuff.

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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #565 on: October 23, 2003, 01:12:48 PM »
I'm sure Jungle Boogie still lives...
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #566 on: October 23, 2003, 11:32:44 PM »
Yep, a lot of big Cube games are coming out in 2004. Twin Snakes, RE4, Baten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia. All of which are multi-disc games. I swear, if Namco doesn't bring Tales of Phantasia to the U.S., I'm going to beat whoever's responsible for that decision with a shovel.

Anyway, I'm not too worried about Twin Snakes coming out in March. Yes, it would sell  more with a holiday release, but Metal Gear is still a big enough name to be successful in March.

The reason Eternal Darkness' sales were weak was because it didn't have anything that immediately stood out about it. It looked like any other generic action/adventure game on the market. Yes, to the hardcore Nintendo fans it quickly became a highly anticipated title, but I just can't see anything about this game that would grab the casual gamer's attention right away. Most people just thought it was a poor man's Resident Evil. Also, the game was "too intelligent" for its own good. Let's see, it had numerous historical and literature references. Strike one. It didn't have any four letter swear words. Stike two. It doesn't have you running over elderly people with a car. Steeeerrrriiiiiike three.

I think the best example I can make is how everybody reacted to the trailers. When the ED trailer came out, I think most people's reaction was something like "Hey, this looks like it's going to be good". With this latest Twin Snakes trailer, everybody is like "$@#* OMFG!!!111 SWEET FANCY SHMANCY THAT TRAILER IS AWESOME I MUST GET THIS GAME NOW IT IS COOL I LIKE IT WOW #@*$!!!!!".
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #567 on: October 24, 2003, 12:29:15 AM »
Most of Nintendo's (US) trailers suck. The Zelda and Metroid trailers may be the exceptions, but hell, the Jp. Metroid Prime trailers put the "promo dvd" trailers to shame.
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« Reply #568 on: October 24, 2003, 11:51:06 AM »
I want Twin Snakes to sell great, but I'm not too interested in it (at least not as much as Ninja ). I'm not a huge fan of stealth based games, but I'll definitely give Twin Snakes a shot. The main reason I want it to sell well is because I'm willing to bet Konami will base further Gamecube support off of how well it does, and Konami makes several series that I enjoy greatly, such as DDR and Castlevania. I don't want a bad release botching further Cube support from one of the largest publishers in the industry.
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RE:OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #569 on: October 24, 2003, 01:13:46 PM »
im getting this for sure....it was delayed until 2004 correct? all this talk about naked gaurds and censorship....we should think...what would m$ do?? i have the answer....we can put the dead or alive volleyball chicks in as the gaurds.....nintendo would sell an infinite amout of metal gears.....
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #570 on: October 24, 2003, 01:32:23 PM »
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Snake prefers dudes as guards.
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« Reply #571 on: October 24, 2003, 04:01:13 PM »
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« Reply #572 on: October 24, 2003, 06:03:29 PM »
I thought everyone knew that MGS2 was a *** porn game in disguise...
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RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
« Reply #573 on: October 25, 2003, 10:45:57 AM »
As I'm sure it's been pointed out before, his name *IS* Solid Snake. Not that hard to figure out especially if you've taken a high school English class.  
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« Reply #574 on: October 25, 2003, 08:27:26 PM »
The fact that Metal Gear has like a million homoerotic acts in it, and contains some highly questionable dialogue just makes the game that much more great.  It didn't work AT ALL when Raiden was the main character, but with Solid Snake at the head, it's the most awesome story telling technique I have ever seen.
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