Topic: Nintendo Offers Advice for Metroid: Other M Glitch

[broodwars]

And this lets me get a dig in on Other M as well!   If they designed this like a REAL Metroid game instead of having arbitrary locked doors and disabled abilities that open when the game says so then maybe such a bug wouldn't exist.  The bug is more or less triggered by someone playing Metroid like a Metroid game!

The door is locked because it's in the same room as a boss fight--after you beat the boss the door opens.  They had these types of doors in Super Metriod.

Think before you post.

If I remember correctly, isn't the door in question in the large chamber with the 3 Grapple Points and the lava monsters just after you take the elevator down from defeating that boss at the top of the oil refinery?  If it is, there's no boss fight there.
 
And I don't see why Nintendo couldn't both distribute a patch online for those who have online connectivity and offer this mail-in program for those who don't have an online connection.

[vudu]

I don't specifically remember if it's the same room as the third time you face that boss or if it's in the room immediately after it.  The point remains--the door is locked because if you double-back to save after defeating the boss the game forgets you killed him and the door locks again.  I bad glitch for sure, but it has nothing to do with "arbitrary locked doors and disabled abilities that open when the games says so".

[Plugabugz]

How do you patch a game, which is loading a dual-layer DVD (featuring many gigabytes of teh Samus), onto a Wii with 512mb that could possibly be full?

1.  If Wii is full, don't install patch and tell user.
2.  When DVD is loading, check the ID on the disk. If ID match, run patch.

Done.

SIMPLES. But having 512mb of space makes this difficult to do repeatedly.

[Mop it up]

Well that's just sequence breaking.  If the game allows sequence breaking then that's just good Metroid design.

No one would call this good game design:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzlFUoN41gQ

[MegaByte]

SIMPLES. But having 512mb of space makes this difficult to do repeatedly.

The patch would only be a few bytes, but yes, you wouldn't want to have to do this for every game.  Though Nintendo's had no problem doing so when it came to blocking homebrew.

[DAaaMan64]

SIMPLES. But having 512mb of space makes this difficult to do repeatedly.

The patch would only be a few bytes, but yes, you wouldn't want to have to do this for every game.  Though Nintendo's had no problem doing so when it came to blocking homebrew.

Or adding all those Korean IOSs in the last update the entire country of the United States didn't need -_-

[UncleBob]

SIMPLES. But having 512mb of space makes this difficult to do repeatedly.

The patch would only be a few bytes, but yes, you wouldn't want to have to do this for every game.  Though Nintendo's had no problem doing so when it came to blocking homebrew.

Let people download a patch-program to edit the effected save file and delete it as needed.  Simple.

[stevey]

I said this previously in the Other M topic, but this "fix" is pathetic in the age of online patches (even Nintendo used a firmware update to help fix the Twilight Princess cannon glitch).  Nintendo should re-author the discs with the fix and offer a trade-in program for those who wish to swap out their discs.  Putting the burden of fixing the issue on the consumer by having them send in their Wiis or SD card saves is not acceptable.

That's not true, Nintendo never made a patch to fix it in firmware. (They did add a checkZeldaSavefile function into the system menu to kill the twilight hack, but that just reads Link and Epona's names and see if they're too long and deletes it. It doesn't run when Zelda does). You had to delete your save file and start over to move on. If you wanted, Nintendo did have a disk replacement program but you still had to restart. At lease now you don't start over so it's definitely a Nintendo style improvement.

I believe that Sakurai, Iwata, or Miyamoto back in 08 said that Nintendo didn't like the concept of loading patch data every time a game is started and weren't allowing anyone to do it; same with accessing the SD card.

[UncleBob]

Wait - you still had to start over with the Twilight Glitch if you had a new disk?  I could have sworn you didn't need to...

[stevey]

Wait - you still had to start over with the Twilight Glitch if you had a new disk?  I could have sworn you didn't need to...

I could have sworn that you had to but after a quick Google search, some people don't and some did; maybe v2 does and v3 doesn't...

[UncleBob]

I didn't realize there was three versions of the disc...

[vudu]

Is it too late to get a replacement disc?  I never bothered to send in my borked disc and I've been thinking about replaying the game.