Topic: 3DS Processor and Memory Details Leaked

[GoldenPhoenix]

I've seen what the iPhone is technically capable of, and I want that with real controls.

Really? I haven't played one iPhone game yet I'd call visually impressive, even compared to a DS game. The 3DS will be a powerful handheld no matter how you spin it with some great looking games.

iPhone may have good hardware under the hood but it is utilized in a different way then 3DS will be.

[NWR_insanolord]

Go download Epic Citadel

I've seen what the iPhone is technically capable of, and I want that with real controls.

Really? I haven't played one iPhone game yet I'd call visually impressive, even compared to a DS game.

That's a screenshot from Epic Citadel, Epic's proof of concept prototype iPhone game, rendered in real time in the Unreal 3 engine.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I've seen what a high end PC is technically capable of, the 3DS should be able to do that....

Are we really comparing a $200 piece of gaming equipment to a $800 (subsidized to $300 with 2yr contract) multimedia phone with gaming capabilities?

lets not and say we didn't.

[NWR_insanolord]

You can get an unsubsidized iPod Touch capable of that for $250.

[BlackNMild2k1]

from what I read that game does not run on an iPod Touch.

I hear it barely runs on an iPhone 4... atleast not at a high and consistent framerate.

[KDR_11k]

The main limiter for graphics quality on the iPhone/iPod is development money. The app store culture demands that games are dirt cheap and the sales numbers don't make up for it either (people will praise an app as a huge success if it sells 3 million units at 1$ a piece). Epic Citadel obviously had a financial reason behind it that wasn't actually based on the money they could make on the app store. The system is quite capable but for the money it costs to use that you could make a PSP game and make more money back on it. It's like judging the Xbox 360's graphics capabilities from XBL Indie Games.

An unsubsidized iPod Touch with apple premium can do those graphics for 250$ and 2 hours...

[BlackNMild2k1]

but I heard the new iPod Touch doesn't have the exact same hardware as the iPhone 4.

I didn't bother to verify that since I could give two shits about the iPhone since I will likely never own one (just got my DroidX a few days ago ), but with the huge price difference between the 2, it seems reasonable to me.

[TJ Spyke]

but I heard the new iPod Touch doesn't have the exact same hardware as the iPhone 4.

They are basically the same, but the only real differences don't have any impact on games. The iPhone 4 has a slightly better camera (although the iPod Touch 4 also has a good HD camera), and it can be viewed at more angles (the iPod Touch screen starts looking weird if you look at it from the side, like 60 degrees).

[BlackNMild2k1]

You also forgot that the iPod Touch has half the RAM (256MB) of the iPhone 4 (512MB)... I think. The game probably wouldn't run nearly the same.

I also forgot to mention how even if you play Citadel or on your iPhone and it ran at a perfectly smooth frame rate and it was the best looking game ever on a handheld, you would still only be able to do it for no more than 2-3 hours on a full charge, and this is on the device you carry around in your pocket to make and receive calls/messages all day when your not home to sit next to a charger.

comparing the 3DS to the iPhone is like comparing apples to genetically engineered super fruit.