Author Topic: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2  (Read 20040 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Crimm

  • Get your unfiltered Bowsette here!
  • NWR Staff Pro
  • Score: 1147
    • View Profile
REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
« on: May 21, 2010, 04:00:00 AM »
It's called Super Mario Galaxy 2, so you know what you're getting.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/reviewArt.cfm?artid=23110

 Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a unique entry in the Mario franchise due to its notable non-uniqueness.  The first true sequel to a Mario title - well, to a Mario platformer (New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Lost Levels notwithstanding) -, Super Mario Galaxy 2 takes everything good from 2007's Super Mario Galaxy and...well, that's it.  It is the truest sequel Nintendo has produced in over a decade.    


Most of Mario's 3D outings have opted to reinvent how they handle platforming: Galaxy introduced the idea of distinct levelettes chained together to form a stage; Sunshine introduced F.L.U.D.D.; Mario 64 introduced 3D.  SMG2's stages all feel like they would have been equally at home in its predecessor, and that's a good thing.  Nintendo is offering us another series of smartly-designed stages, and I'm all for it.    


Since this is a Mario game, you know that the Princess has been kidnapped by Bowser (spoiler alert!), and Mario has to travel between stages to collect stars while in pursuit of his persistent foe.  Keeping the level structure from previous 3D titles intact, each "galaxy" contains a number of challenges, for each of which Mario earns a star upon completion.  Earning stars unlocks more galaxies.  Each "World" consists of a series of galaxies (I know, that's backwards) ending with a "boss" galaxy.  Completing the primary challenge of these boss galaxies (i.e. defeating the boss) unlocks the next world.  It's all old hat, but it's still fun.    


That's not to say that SMG2 is completely bereft of new ideas.  The game adds a few new power-ups like the Rockshroom, which lets you roll around as a boulder (think Goron mask from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask), and the Cloud Suit, which lets you create clouds so you can climb to great heights and span great distances.    


The best new power-up isn't new at all; you can finally ride Yoshi, and adding Mario's dinosaur friend to the Galaxy formula works surprisingly well.  The pointer locks onto a target and the B-Trigger extends Yoshi's tongue.  Yoshi himself gets a series of power-ups, such as a chili pepper that makes him uncontrollably fast, a blue berry that makes him float, and a yellow fruit that turns him into a light to see in the dark.    


The game draws inspiration from older Mario titles as well.  Beyond catchy throwback musical themes, it also borrows from Mario's 2D offerings.  The level selection is done on a single map, similar to Mario 3, Super Mario World, and New Super Mario Bros., rather than making you navigate a hub area to find each World's portal.  It also seems to feature more 2D segments than its predecessor, And there's a level lifted right from the pages of Mario history that will make longtime fans very happy.    


A tweaked version Co-Star Mode returns from Galaxy, in which a second player can offer some limited assistance to the person guiding Mario.  The "Co-Star" can now do a spin attack.  However, this is not a "two-player mode"; SMG2 is a distinctly single-player experience, and Co-Star Mode will likely appeal more to families than experienced players.    


Opting not to mess with a good thing, SMG2 features the same solid controls as Super Mario Galaxy.  You'll jump with the A-Button, butt-stomp with the Z-Button, spin-attack with a flick of the Wii Remote or Nunchuk, move with the Nunchuk's analog stick, and move the camera with the D-Pad.  The only control issues are in a handful of motion-based mini-games that feel somewhat imprecise, but the imprecision certainly doesn't ruin them.    


The visuals are still gorgeous.  The world of Super Mario Galaxy was colorful, diverse, and detailed.  Super Mario Galaxy 2 is no less beautiful; its sharp graphics and smooth animations are amazing.  Only once did I see a hint of slowdown, while rolling around a huge group of enemies as I flattened them using the Rockshroom.  Considering the number of times the game puts multiple enemies on-screen, that's impressive.  The various galaxies are each notably distinct with their own visual flair, and each one is impressively designed and visually appealing.  In short, Super Mario Galaxy had some of the Wii's best graphics upon its release, and Galaxy 2 matches it in every regard.    


The sound is a great mix of effects and music.  There's a suite of classic Mario themes that have been remixed and re-purposed for Galaxy 2, as well as some nice original compositions.  The great sound effects from Galaxy make their way into the sequel, and Dolby Pro Logic II support rounds out a nice audio package.    


We were promised a more difficult experience with Galaxy 2, and this definitely turned out to be the case.  SMG2 gets right into the more difficult content early, and some of the later stars are brutally difficult.  Prankster Comet stars (which thankfully no longer move between galaxies, but rather simply become available for selection and stay that way) can be particularly frustrating.  To offset this additional challenge, the game features the Super Guide from New Super Mario Bros. Wii (called the "Cosmic Guide" here).  However, it is not available for all stars, which means even the seemingly unlimited number of 1-ups the game throws at you can be exhausted.      


Galaxy 2 features over 240 stars to collect, spread over a large number of galaxies.  With the extra layer of difficulty it's doubtful that most players will ever see everything Galaxy 2 has to offer, but they can certainly try.  Those who love challenging platforming should just call in sick to work for the next week, because they've got a big task in front of them.    


Super Mario Galaxy 2 takes Super Mario Galaxy and makes a few tweaks to make it more playable.  As such, Galaxy 2 instantly catapults itself into the discussion for the title of Best Game Available on Wii.  If you liked Super Mario Galaxy even a bit, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a must-have title for your Wii game collection.

Pros:
       

  • Great level design
  •  
  • Solid platforming mechanics
  •  
  • Good – albeit limited - enhancements to the Galaxy formula


  •        Cons:
           
  • Motion controlled mini-games are imprecise
  •  
  • Some stages are just frustrating


  •                Graphics:  9.5
           The original Super Mario Galaxy has some of the best visuals on Wii, and  Galaxy 2 is no different.  There's rare momentary slowdown when there is a lot of action on screen, but there are no real negatives here.

                   Sound:  9.0
           The remixes of classic Mario themes provide a great soundtrack for Galaxy 2.  The sound effects are diverse and plentiful.  The game also features Dolby Pro Logic II support, which is a nice inclusion.

                   Control:  9.0
           Everything controls tightly aside from some of the motion controls  It feels like the Wii Remote and Nunchuk were designed for this game, which may have actually been the case.

                          Gameplay:  9.5
           Galaxy 2 features the same fun and challenging platforming we've become accustomed to in a Mario game.  There are enough different types of challenges to keep the game fresh.  The incremental changes made to Galaxy 2 make the game feel more focused on getting you into the fun quickly.

     


           Lastability:  9.0
           With 240 stars and a large number of galaxies, there is a lot of content in this game.  As a more challenging title, don't expect to breeze through all the stars quickly.  Galaxy 2 is also highly replayable, so expect to come back to it once you've finished.

     


           Final:  9.5
           Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a great game.  Taking the successes of the original Galaxy and making smart improvements, Nintendo has taken a game concept that was already one of the best on Wii and made it better.  It's quite an accomplishment.      

    James Jones
    Mondo Editor
    Nintendo World Report

    Offline Killer_Man_Jaro

    • NWR Staff
    • Score: 22
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 01:54:56 AM »
    Oh cool, you actually received your review copy early for once.
    I'm glad you enjoyed this so thoroughly, James. I expected you to be the most critical out of everybody towards Galaxy 2 (especially after your most recent comments about Galaxy on RFN), so if you are impressed by this game... I can not wait.
    Tom Malina
    UK Correspondent
    -----------------------------
    "You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel."

    Offline GoldenPhoenix

    • Now it's a party!
    • Score: 42
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 03:15:01 AM »
    What are you guys doing letting James review this? Shouldn't he be torturing himself with Ninja Bread Man 2 or something?

    Anyways I'm actually excited now for the game.
    Switch Friend Code: SW-4185-3173-1144

    Offline Crimm

    • Get your unfiltered Bowsette here!
    • NWR Staff Pro
    • Score: 1147
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #3 on: May 21, 2010, 07:41:17 AM »
    I said this in an email conversation about my RFN comments: I don't get frothy at the mouth for Galaxy.  I still recognize that it is a very good game but there was a lot of reaction to the game that seemed excessive.
    James Jones
    Mondo Editor
    Nintendo World Report

    Offline NWR_Lindy

    • Famous Rapper
    • NWR Staff Pro
    • Score: 14
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #4 on: May 21, 2010, 09:01:19 AM »
    I'm really glad James reviewed this, because I knew he wouldn't come at it from a Mario fanboy's perspective.

    I couldn't review it because my score cap for Mario platformers is now 7.5.
    Jon Lindemann
    Contributing Editor, Nintendo World Report

    My Game Backlog

    Offline MegaByte

    • NWR Staff... Can't win trivia
    • NWR Staff Pro
    • Score: 31337
      • View Profile
      • Konfiskated Teknologies Network
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 11:11:43 AM »
    There isn't much here about the actual experience or interesting level and mechanics details... is this game really that similar to the first?  For instance do the new power-ups actually work well, and why?  How does the world design compare to the original in a functional sense, and a cohesive sense?  I would also like to hear how the new environment-altering power-ups and enemies play with the game's dynamics (e.g. Light Yoshi, Cosmic Mario, motion-controlled segments).  And can you explain the pros and cons, like level difficulty?
    « Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 02:47:02 PM by MegaByte »
    Aaron Kaluszka
    Contributing Editor, Nintendo World Report

    Offline Halbred

    • Staff Paleontologist, Ruiner of Worlds
    • NWR Staff
    • Score: 17
      • View Profile
      • When Pigs Fly Returns
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #6 on: May 21, 2010, 01:14:17 PM »
    I'm inclined to agree with MegaByte. If the game is basically the same as Galaxy 1, then I'd refer readers to that review for the gameplay basics, then spell out what's different here, and go into more detail.

    Maybe it's just me...
    This would be my PSN Trophy Card, but I guess I can't post HTML in my Signature. I'm the pixel spaceship, and I have nine Gold trophies.

    Offline ThomasO

    • Score: 18
      • View Profile
      • deviantART account
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #7 on: May 21, 2010, 01:38:05 PM »
    I agree as well. There's virtually nothing written here that I haven't read about already.


    And it's "Cosmic Guide," not "Galaxy Guide."
    « Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 01:41:03 PM by ThomasO »

    Offline happyastoria

    • Score: -4
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 03:19:02 PM »
    It's interesting to note that the lowest score for this game comes from a Nintendo site.

    Offline NWR_Neal

    • NWR Staff Pro
    • Score: 27
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 04:05:33 PM »
    It's interesting to note that the lowest score for this game comes from a Nintendo site.

    When it's a 9.5, I don't think it makes a difference.
    Neal Ronaghan
    Director, NWR

    "Fungah! Foiled again!"

    Offline KDR_11k

    • boring person
    • Score: 28
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 05:13:09 PM »
    Metacritic lists several 9.0s.

    Offline Luigi Dude

    • Truth Bomber
    • Score: 3
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 06:18:44 PM »
    Metacritic lists several 9.0s.

    The sites that gave it a 9 did so for the dumbest reason like lack of a storyline.  Any site that docks a Mario games points for lack of story doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
    I’m gonna have you play every inch of this game! - Masahiro Sakurai

    Offline broodwars

    • Hunting for a Pineapple Salad
    • Score: -1011
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010, 06:24:56 PM »
    The sites that gave it a 9 did so for the dumbest reason like lack of a storyline.  Any site that docks a Mario games points for lack of story doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

    I don't see how that's an invalid concern, any more than docking story-based games for not having particularly great gameplay.  Maybe some people are tired of constantly saving the increasingly-useless and ungrateful Peach from Bowser in every single Mario platformer while the story remains completely stagnant the entire experience.  If frickin' Ratchet & Clank and Prince of Persia can have fairly interesting stories in the same genre, Mario shouldn't get a free pass.
    There was a Signature here. It's gone now.

    Offline stevey

    • Young HAWNESS
    • Score: 15
      • View Profile
    My review of Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #13 on: May 21, 2010, 09:24:01 PM »
    Super Mario Game: +10
    Pirates confirm, no Rosalina anywhere (beside the dumb super guide): -10
    Game score: 0/10

    Damn Miyamoto's Vendetta :'(
    « Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 09:25:50 PM by stevey »
    My Demands and Declarations:
    nVidia is CRAP!!!
    BOYCOTT Digest mode and LEGEND OF OO!

    Your PM box will be spammed with Girl Link porn! NO EXCEPTION!
    Wii want WaveBirds

    Stevey Duff
    NWR HAWTNESS Inspector
    NWR Staff All Powerful Satin!

    Offline GoldenPhoenix

    • Now it's a party!
    • Score: 42
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #14 on: May 21, 2010, 09:45:02 PM »
    The sites that gave it a 9 did so for the dumbest reason like lack of a storyline.  Any site that docks a Mario games points for lack of story doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

    I don't see how that's an invalid concern, any more than docking story-based games for not having particularly great gameplay.  Maybe some people are tired of constantly saving the increasingly-useless and ungrateful Peach from Bowser in every single Mario platformer while the story remains completely stagnant the entire experience.  If frickin' Ratchet & Clank and Prince of Persia can have fairly interesting stories in the same genre, Mario shouldn't get a free pass.

    Pac-man too. Screw focusing on gameplay, we need a good story. Also first time I've heard that Prince of Persia and "Let's shoot lots of stuff" and Clank are in the same genre as Mario.
    « Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 09:49:07 PM by GoldenPhoenix »
    Switch Friend Code: SW-4185-3173-1144

    Offline broodwars

    • Hunting for a Pineapple Salad
    • Score: -1011
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #15 on: May 21, 2010, 09:52:02 PM »
    The sites that gave it a 9 did so for the dumbest reason like lack of a storyline.  Any site that docks a Mario games points for lack of story doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

    I don't see how that's an invalid concern, any more than docking story-based games for not having particularly great gameplay.  Maybe some people are tired of constantly saving the increasingly-useless and ungrateful Peach from Bowser in every single Mario platformer while the story remains completely stagnant the entire experience.  If frickin' Ratchet & Clank and Prince of Persia can have fairly interesting stories in the same genre, Mario shouldn't get a free pass.

    Pac-man too. Screw focusing on gameplay, we need a good story. Also first time I've heard that Prince of Persia and "Let's shoot lots of stuff" and Clank are in the same genre as Mario.

    Ah, the good ol' stereotype that you can't have good story and good gameplay.  One must be sacrificed for the other.  Nonsense, and you know better, GP.  As for Prince and Ratchet, how could they not be in the same genre?  They're both platformers, one incorporating melee action as well and the other firearm action.  Hell, Ratchet's even a Mascot Platformer like Mario.
    There was a Signature here. It's gone now.

    Offline Ymeegod

    • Score: -16
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #16 on: May 21, 2010, 10:41:57 PM »
    GS review is in: 10.

    Yeah the story in SMG (or any platformer Mario game for that matter) is rather poor considering the rest of the game is solid gold.  M&L series on the GBA/DS has great humor added to the plot and I wished they followed that lead in mario's platformers (silly and entertaining). 

    Also for platformers with a good "E" storyline, you should look at what Sly Cooper offers.  It's a shame Sucker Punch went on to make action games because it's platformers were gems on the PS2.


    Offline broodwars

    • Hunting for a Pineapple Salad
    • Score: -1011
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #17 on: May 21, 2010, 10:56:24 PM »
    Also for platformers with a good "E" storyline, you should look at what Sly Cooper offers.  It's a shame Sucker Punch went on to make action games because it's platformers were gems on the PS2.

    Indeed, and incidentally Sly there has been my PSN Avatar since I first got my PS3.  ;)

    As for the review itself, maybe it's just that "vague"-ness that the people above complained about (though, ironically, many would probably complain even louder if he got more specific, whining about "spoilers".  Honestly..."spoilers" in a Mario game...) but it just sounds like more of the same (including the waggle-tastic mini-games I hated so much) and I didn't particularly like Mario Galaxy.  Yes, it was polished; had good production values; and was moderately engaging, but it was a game I never really got into despite clearing it with all 120 Stars.  I think at this point I'm just done with Mario altogether outside of the Mario & Luigi series, because of all of Nintendo's franchises he's simultaneously both the most exploited and the one with the most conservative progression.
    There was a Signature here. It's gone now.

    Offline King of Twitch

    • twitch.tv/zapr2k i live for this
    • Score: 141
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #18 on: May 21, 2010, 11:02:44 PM »
    He's in outer space now. What'd you want, trans-dimensional platforming?
    "I deem his stream to be supreme and highly esteem his Fortnite team!" - The Doritos Pope and his Mountain Dew Crew.

    Offline broodwars

    • Hunting for a Pineapple Salad
    • Score: -1011
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #19 on: May 21, 2010, 11:10:56 PM »
    He's in outer space now. What'd you want, trans-dimensional platforming?

    Yes, he's in outer space now, but what has that changed?  Oh, sometimes he can jump around a surface through gravitational pull or go under it.  Yippee.  Nintendo barely did anything interesting with that in the first game, though supposedly this game does more with it.  I'd like to see more interaction with the environment like Prince of Persia, a better written adventure with memorable characters ala Ratchet & Clank (and Prince of Persia, for that matter), mind-bending puzzle platforming mechanics ala Portal (ditto), etc.  Mario lately just feels like a series that uses cosmetic changes to hide the fact that when all is said and done, very little has changed in many years.  Obviously, I'm in the minority here with disliking how "familiar" the Mario series formula has gotten.
    « Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 11:13:52 PM by broodwars »
    There was a Signature here. It's gone now.

    Offline KDR_11k

    • boring person
    • Score: 28
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #20 on: May 22, 2010, 03:57:32 AM »
    Most reviews say that despite being a familiar character and using familiar base concepts SMG2 still manages to surprise at every corner, it's not the story or character that are supposed to wow you.

    A story needs time to tell. Time that could be spent on more gameplay.

    Offline GoldenPhoenix

    • Now it's a party!
    • Score: 42
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #21 on: May 22, 2010, 04:02:06 AM »
    Most reviews say that despite being a familiar character and using familiar base concepts SMG2 still manages to surprise at every corner, it's not the story or character that are supposed to wow you.

    A story needs time to tell. Time that could be spent on more gameplay.

    Exactly, Mario games and really Miyamoto games as a whole keep you going, not by a story but the level designs and atmosphere that draws you to them. Any hack designer can include a story, it is sucking the player in via gameplay that is the tough part.
    Switch Friend Code: SW-4185-3173-1144

    Offline Mop it up

    • And I've gotta say...
    • Score: 125
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #22 on: May 22, 2010, 04:53:26 AM »
    Eh, some people need all new experiences to be entertained, there's nothing wrong with that. It just limits their choices. I, for one, love Mario games as they are, and new levels are enough for me.

    Offline GoldenPhoenix

    • Now it's a party!
    • Score: 42
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #23 on: May 22, 2010, 05:02:51 AM »
    Eh, some people need all new experiences to be entertained, there's nothing wrong with that. It just limits their choices. I, for one, love Mario games as they are, and new levels are enough for me.

    The thing is that a game like Mario has the sort of structure that a new experience IS the levels especially one with such an open structure. The freshness comes from the level designs.
    Switch Friend Code: SW-4185-3173-1144

    Offline Mop it up

    • And I've gotta say...
    • Score: 125
      • View Profile
    Re: REVIEWS: Super Mario Galaxy 2
    « Reply #24 on: May 22, 2010, 05:20:30 AM »
    Exactly, that's how I feel. But it is still the same characters and settings, and for some, that makes it stale.