Topic: Call of Duty Black Ops Wii > Goldeneye ;)

[KDR_11k]

Is CoDBlOps way, way better than CoDMW2? Otherwise it's not better than Golden Eye.

[BranDonk Kong]

Don't know what that's supposed to mean. The general consensus is that codblops has better multiplayer than Goldeneye...so that makes it better in my book.

[KDR_11k]

GE is just much more fun to play than MW2, haven't played BlOps.

[broodwars]

Is CoDBlOps way, way better than CoDMW2? Otherwise it's not better than Golden Eye.

IMO, both Black Ops and Goldeneye have better singleplayer than Modern Warfare 2.  I don't play their multiplayer modes, so I'd rank them as follows: Black Ops > Goldeneye > Modern Warfare 2.

[Retro Deckades]

IMO, both Black Ops and Goldeneye have better singleplayer than Modern Warfare 2.  I don't play their multiplayer modes, so I'd rank them as follows: Black Ops > Goldeneye > Modern Warfare 2.

It probably depends on your play style, too. From what I've heard, stealth plays a much bigger role in Goldeneye, and I'm the type of gamer who would much rather try to sneak through a level and dispatch guards undetected than rush into the middle of a fire fight.

[broodwars]

IMO, both Black Ops and Goldeneye have better singleplayer than Modern Warfare 2.  I don't play their multiplayer modes, so I'd rank them as follows: Black Ops > Goldeneye > Modern Warfare 2.

It probably depends on your play style, too. From what I've heard, stealth plays a much bigger role in Goldeneye, and I'm the type of gamer who would much rather try to sneak through a level and dispatch guards undetected than rush into the middle of a fire fight.

Oh I definitely agree: Goldeneye has much better stealth and stealth is more my thing.  Goldeneye's campaign, however, wanes in quality towards the end IMO and doesn't have as much variety as Black Ops' does.

[KDR_11k]

IMO, both Black Ops and Goldeneye have better singleplayer than Modern Warfare 2.  I don't play their multiplayer modes, so I'd rank them as follows: Black Ops > Goldeneye > Modern Warfare 2.

It probably depends on your play style, too. From what I've heard, stealth plays a much bigger role in Goldeneye, and I'm the type of gamer who would much rather try to sneak through a level and dispatch guards undetected than rush into the middle of a fire fight.

Yet the multiplayer requires less stealth than MW2 does, there are more firefights and less "surprise, you're dead!"

[Stratos]

I've not touched Blops single player. Since it is a rental I'm focusing on just my favorite stuff which is online.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Ho lee Sheeeeeeit
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/12/call-of-duty-black-ops-paces-record-setting-november-video-game-sales/1

The latest installment in the Call of Duty franchise, Call of Duty: Black Ops had a record-setting launch in November selling 8.4 million copies in the U.S., already cracking the top 10 best-selling games of all time (No. 7), according to the latest sales report by market tracking firm The NPD Group.

[Kytim89]

Ho lee Sheeeeeeit
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/12/call-of-duty-black-ops-paces-record-setting-november-video-game-sales/1

The latest installment in the Call of Duty franchise, Call of Duty: Black Ops had a record-setting launch in November selling 8.4 million copies in the U.S., already cracking the top 10 best-selling games of all time (No. 7), according to the latest sales report by market tracking firm The NPD Group.

A sequel is already in the works. 

[Retro Deckades]

Ho lee Sheeeeeeit
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/12/call-of-duty-black-ops-paces-record-setting-november-video-game-sales/1

The latest installment in the Call of Duty franchise, Call of Duty: Black Ops had a record-setting launch in November selling 8.4 million copies in the U.S., already cracking the top 10 best-selling games of all time (No. 7), according to the latest sales report by market tracking firm The NPD Group.

If that total includes the DS version, then calling Call of Duty: Black Ops the seventh best "game" of all time would be, as James would put it, patently false.

[BlackNMild2k1]

even still, that is still 2+million more than MW2 sold in it's opening month and I doubt that the DS version made up the difference.

It's still a tremendous amount of sales and IW must be pissed that the brand they created continues to do so well without them.

[cubist]

So I had a choice between the two today while at Costco...I chose based on this forum.  I sure hope my NWR people are right!

[BranDonk Kong]

Ho lee Sheeeeeeit
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/12/call-of-duty-black-ops-paces-record-setting-november-video-game-sales/1

The DS version didn't crack the top 10, so it's fair to say that its sales will be insignificant in the mix.
The latest installment in the Call of Duty franchise, Call of Duty: Black Ops had a record-setting launch in November selling 8.4 million copies in the U.S., already cracking the top 10 best-selling games of all time (No. 7), according to the latest sales report by market tracking firm The NPD Group.

If that total includes the DS version, then calling Call of Duty: Black Ops the seventh best "game" of all time would be, as James would put it, patently false.

[TJ Spyke]

It's still a tremendous amount of sales and IW must be pissed that the brand they created continues to do so well without them.

Why? They are likely to work on the next one (they usually do every other one). Most consumers don't care about who makes the game, they care more about the COD name than the studio making it.

[NWR_insanolord]

I think BnM was talking about West and Zampella and the rest of the people who left Infinity Ward.

[TJ Spyke]

I thought that, but I didn't want to assume it. I could imagine them being upset, seeing that fans don't care that they left since the series does well with or without them.

[NWR_insanolord]

I would imagine the vast majority of the 8 million people who bought Black Ops have no idea of the politics involved. Hell, I'll bet a large chunk of them don't even realize there are different development teams for different iterations in the series.

[NeoStar9X]

Said I wouldn't do it but I ended up picking up Black Ops again. Bought it three times actually and returned it twice. The third time I tore off the packaging as soon as possible so I couldn't change my mind. 

I'll try to keep this short.
Online: A rating. When you have a good connection it's fast paced and fun. Maps are a good size and there is a lot of customization. Perhaps to much maybe.  I like that you can test out equipment you've unlocked in private matches. Combat training is a nice touch and for a while I was messing around with that when my connection problems arose (had to change my settings from Default to Region). If they continue to patch the game then I see it getting better. I spawned trapped in a rock in one match. I know spawning is being looked at and I hope that never happens again.


Single Player: Poor in my opinion. Frame rate issues. Voices out of sync. Disc drive being pushed very hard from the sound of it. Graphics are only so so. There are better look games on the system. GE is better in this department for sure. Now I only made it to mission 3 and it might get better but I was disappointed by what I saw and experienced. Now maybe my disc drive is going bad on me again (had it replaced back when Brawl came out) but no other game I have works the drive the way this game does during single player. The online doesn't have many of the elements that I believe cause the overworking of the drive during single player. This is a significant part of the game. For me I don't see how this gets anywhere over a B or 8 if you assume the other parts of the game are worth of A praise. I think the online is but I haven't tried out the Zombies mode yet.


I think I'm done with the single player in the end. I'll most likely watch the rest of them online but don't want to deal with the problems I'm getting. 

[Stratos]

So I'm getting a good chunk of extra pay thanks to holiday work and I plan to get this with my next paycheck. I already got a headbanger since I saw them for sale at Wal-Mart. Didn't get any games for Christmas so looks like I'm footing the bill for this one.

[Chozo Ghost]

It's still a tremendous amount of sales and IW must be pissed that the brand they created continues to do so well without them.

Why? They are likely to work on the next one (they usually do every other one). Most consumers don't care about who makes the game, they care more about the COD name than the studio making it.

I care, because the Treyarch games are (in my opinion) markedly superior to the COD games made by Infinity Ward. Treyarch makes an effort to crack down on boosters and hackers in the game, but Infinity Ward doesn't even give a damn. Infinity Ward introduced tactical insertions which cheating punks exploited all to hell and then they sat on their ass and never did anything about it. Well, Treyarch did something about it in Black Ops. You might not think it matters, but if you've ever played Free For All in MW2 and suddenly had a nuke called in on you by some 12 year old punk letting another 12 year old punk kill him over and over 25 times in a row in order to get that nuke you might understand.

Plus the Treyarch COD games are the ones which have zombies, which is a major plus for me. And I also like that Treyarch supports Nintendo 100% by releasing Black Ops for the Wii on the same day as the other systems. Infinity Ward never gave a damn about Nintendo, and so MW2 never came to the Wii. So if Infinity Ward is pissed and unhappy, then I say good, because they are a bunch of assholes as far as I'm concerned. They can take their booster friendly Nintendo neglecting crappy COD games and shove them where the sun don't shine.

[BlackNMild2k1]

For the record....

I think BnM was talking about West and Zampella and the rest of the people who left Infinity Ward.

was right. I was referring to those that left Activision as now it seems like no one gave a damn and Kotick, who I personally think handled things badly, was in the right to just let things run their course.

CoDBlOps from most accounts seems to be better than MW2 and has already made more money than the last game and no Wii snubbing was done (thanks Treyarch for not being snobby developers who think they are too good to work on hardware that is more capable than last gen but not HD)

[TJ Spyke]

Treyarch have always been good for Nintendo systems, sorta like how Vicarious Visions is.

[Stratos]

I went to buy the game after work last night but the closest Wal-Mart was sold out. I then went to the one closer to my house and they were charging $50 for it while the previous store was only charging $40. Interestingly, Goldeneye was $40 at the second store and $50 at the first. Strange.

I just went ahead and ordered it online. It's $40 on Amazon.

[Dirk Temporo]

You should've just asked if they could price match the other store. They price match competitors and it would be really ridiculous if they didn't match other stores in the area.