Topic: Call of Duty Black Ops Wii > Goldeneye ;)

[kraken613]

If you get on ShyGuy I am on, plan on just playing a little but will post on how online is.

EDIT WITH IMPRESSIONS:
Wow, I am impressed....

The online puts any other Wii shooter I have ever played to shame. Good frame rate and tons of fun to play. It seems to have every feature of the HD consoles or atleast almost all of them. Controls are really great but still having to tweak a bit. My first round was able to hop in and go 16-10 and went 9-6 in the next round. You can mute voice chat overall and it even looks as if you can mute certain people while in game.

If you want a Wii Shooter for online play this is it hands down.

[ShyGuy]

I saw Kraken online, but couldn't join his match.

[Dasmos]

Please tell me the Wii version has "Dead Ops Arcade", it's probably the best part about this game.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Black Ops beats Modern Warfare 2 to become “biggest entertainment launch ever”
http://www.vg247.com/2010/11/11/black-ops-beats-modern-warfare-2-on-day-one-sales/

Black Ops has beaten Modern Warfare 2’s opening day sales to become the world’s largest ever entertainment launch with $360 million in revenue in the UK and North America alone.

The 24-hour figure stacks against the $310 million taken by Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 in North America and the United Kingdom last year, according to internal Activision estimates.

Call of Duty: Black Ops, marks the second year in a row that the Call of Duty franchise has set day one launch records across all forms of entertainment, Activision said today.

In its first day on November 9, the blockbuster title sold through approximately 5.6 million copies in North America and the United Kingdom, as compared to 4.7 million copies for last year’s Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.“There has never been another entertainment franchise that has set opening day records for two consecutive years and we are on track to outperform last year’s five-day global sales record of $550 million,” said Acti head Bobby Kotick.

You think that 16% increase in sales had anything to do with the fact that they also released it on the Wii the same day?

I also guess Kotic has been redeemed (in the eyes of the investors) for his decisions related to the drama of MW2 and now Treyarch are the new big boys in town that know their place and play their role.

[alegoicoe]

yeah, but looks like people dont get that they are playing the same sh*t over an over with a mediocre campaign to justify the selling point of the game which is multiplayer, and in like a month or two comes the map packs, wait for it.

[ShyGuy]

I don't think this has the Dead Ops Arcade, which is a bummer, I tried the cheat code on the computer in the menu screen, but it says "error reading drive A:" Maybe it will be DLC? It does have Zork though.

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm glad this game is beating MW2's sales record. Quite frankly, I thought MW2 sucked... I mean it has cool guns and stuff, but it was so horribly unbalanced and don't get me started on the boosters. I think Treyarch does a far better job at making COD games than Infinity Ward. Plus the Treyarch COD games are the ones that have Zombies, and that's a major plus... the Treyarch COD games are also much darker and bloodier/gorier in general, and that better represents what war is really about. So all around I'm more of a Treyarch fan. I think they're the ones with the real talent.

Oh yeah, it also needs to be mentioned that Treyarch does the best job they can to make the Wii versions of their games be as good as the ones on other consoles. That is a fact which can not be said about Infinity Ward... Did MW2 even come to the Wii at all? No, it did not. What we got was a crappy repackaging of MW1 with crappy controls. Now in contrast to that the Wii got ON DAY 1 pretty much the EXACT SAME Black Ops experience as the 360/PS3 did, and this game is not really lacking in anything except for the forgivable things which could not have been included because of hardware limits (Killcams, 12-18 players, etc.)

So if Infinity Ward gets shut down or whatever, that's fine with me because thank God we have Treyarch!

[Stratos]

It is missing most of the zombie stuff. Pity.

I thought the controls in Reflex were fine.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Yeah, it's in the same place on the Wii version. I think it does that because you can still earn points for your online profile. I agree though, you should be able to play it without an internet connection.

Speaking of Activision, rumor is that the Wii version is going to get pay-for DLC stuff.

That's true, the manual says that you can buy DLC in the game's CoD store. DLC is going to be stored on a SD card.

[Dirk Temporo]

So Goldeneye for local, Call of Duty for online?

Alternatively, I could save $50 and just wait for Conduit 2, which will have both.

EDIT: IGN confuses me. I hear that this is better than The Conduit, but IGN gave this a 7.5 and The Conduit an 8.6. Maybe it's because The Conduit came first. With any luck, Conduit 2 will be a 9.

[Stratos]

Yeah, they also gave Goldeneye a 9. We will see I suppose. C2 could get close to the same.

I don't trust IGN scores anymore. Haven't in a long time.

[Dirk Temporo]

I actually had a discussion with a guy I work with and we basically both agreed that the Wii section of IGN specifically was pretty good up until the point that Matt left. I had issues with some of the things that Matt said, but really he was a pretty good reviewer, and he ran a damn tight ship at IGN Wii. After he left though, it just went to crap like the rest of everything.

[ShyGuy]

Yeah, Nintendo IGN was still good for exclusive news when Matt was there. Now, I rarely visit the site.

Epic Mickey, Conduit 2, and maybe Golden Eye are all that are on my Wii Radar till Zelda.

[BranDonk Kong]

Also, Black Ops is supposedly just like GoldenEye, only better, so the 7.5 is kind of an insult.

[kraken613]

Single player not as good and online 10 times better....

[Dirk Temporo]

And no local multiplayer.

[Stratos]

I'm hearing that the local options in the HD versions are buried in the online part of the game. People are complaining that they have to go online to just play local. I'm curious if the option is there somewhere on the Wii version but no one has found it yet.

[kraken613]

I'm hearing that the local options in the HD versions are buried in the online part of the game. People are complaining that they have to go online to just play local. I'm curious if the option is there somewhere on the Wii version but no one has found it yet.

I will look next time I play. Not an issue for me since I will never play this game local.

[BranDonk Kong]

With bots, yes, you do have to be on Xbox Live (or PSN). I believe the bots are basically being "streamed" to you online, no matter which version of the game you have. However, split screen and system link do not require you to be online.

[ShyGuy]

If by play local you mean split screen, I don't think that's an option. I know this uses the same engine as Goldeneye, so it may be bundled somewhere in the game code, ready to pop out with DLC.

[TJ Spyke]

Having to be online to have bots is stupid, any FPS game should at least have bots available for offline play (they are crap if they don't let a person play multiplayer by themselves).

[ymeegod]

"You think that 16% increase in sales had anything to do with the fact that they also released it on the Wii the same day?"

No, sales for the WII didn't even break the 100K mark, VGcharts listed it at 65K.  Which is doing better than Modern Warfare Reflex first week and that game went on to evenually to sell over a million. 

[Stratos]

"You think that 16% increase in sales had anything to do with the fact that they also released it on the Wii the same day?"

No, sales for the WII didn't even break the 100K mark, VGcharts listed it at 65K.  Which is doing better than Modern Warfare Reflex first week and that game went on to evenually to sell over a million. 

Well, when Fry's has a big table with the HD versions piled on it in the middle of the main aisle and the Wii version is tucked in the very back of the Wii section with no headbanger it's little wonder it didn't sell as well. I almost splurged and got it but no headbanger made me decide to wait.

[TJ Spyke]

No, sales for the WII didn't even break the 100K mark, VGcharts listed it at 65K.  Which is doing better than Modern Warfare Reflex first week and that game went on to evenually to sell over a million. 

Why are you quoting a site that makes up their data? No intelligent person uses their numbers.

[Ymeegod]

Sigh you do realize all charts, NPD, VGChartz, ect all estimate their numbers.  Here's a nice read http://www.vgchartz.com/article/82746/editorial-why-it-is-so-easy-to-blame-vgchartz/

Basically they estimated 475K sold and MS stated 550K sold--that's roughy an error of 13%.  Why the error?  Is 550K the correct number?