Topic: Call of Duty Black Ops Wii > Goldeneye ;)

[BranDonk Kong]

We had screens for Modern Warfare Reflex almost 3 full months before it was released.

[Stratos]

We had screens for Modern Warfare Reflex almost 3 full months before it was released.

Like 5 of them. And the game turned out prettier than in the pics.

[Mop it up]

Modern Warfare was ugly. I hope this game has a cleaner look because it doesn't take too long for the graininess to cause me eye strain.

[BranDonk Kong]

Game comes out tomorrow (well, tonight)...still not a god damn thing. Good thing I only pre-ordered the 360 version.

[Dirk Temporo]

I'm kind of confused as to why anybody would even consider buying both this and Goldeneye, when in terms of gameplay, they're completely identical.

[broodwars]

I'm kind of confused as to why anybody would even consider buying both this and Goldeneye, when in terms of gameplay, they're completely identical.

Not really.  While they are very similar controls-wise, GoldenEye likely has a much greater focus on stealth than Black Ops probably has.  Now, as far as quality's concerned, I do wonder why you would buy Black Ops on Wii when you could buy GoldenEye on Wii and get Black Ops on the HD consoles (thereby getting both games on the platforms where they're probably best).

[Dirk Temporo]

That is a good point. I was thinking more about the multiplayer than the single-player though. I wonder if the online functionality will be any better in Call of Duty than Goldeneye.

Actually, now that I think about it, what if that was their general plan? Market Goldeneye for local multiplayer and Call of Duty for online multiplayer.

[BranDonk Kong]

Pretty sure that's why there's no splitscreen on the Wii Black Ops. Anyway, saw some screens and videos (gamefaqs), hard to tell because they're off-screen, but I'd say it actually looks pretty good.

[ShyGuy]

Right now, I'm torn between getting this and GoldenEye. I want the best single player game with the best pointer control

[Stratos]

The functionality is already confirmed way better than Goldeneye. You have voice chat through headset and wiispeak. Also, local multi is in Black Ops as well. You can also friend random people and completely bypass friend codes.

[Mop it up]

Now, as far as quality's concerned, I do wonder why you would buy Black Ops on Wii when you could buy GoldenEye on Wii and get Black Ops on the HD consoles (thereby getting both games on the platforms where they're probably best).

The answer is simple: Wii controls. I don't like dual-analogue, so it doesn't matter to me how much better it looks or what features it has, because it is no fun to control. Black Ops is also much more feature-full than Goldeneye, and it likely has a different style of multiplayer maps.

Also, local multi is in Black Ops as well.

This hasn't been confirmed, and early reports say the Wii version has no local multiplayer.

[broodwars]

Now, as far as quality's concerned, I do wonder why you would buy Black Ops on Wii when you could buy GoldenEye on Wii and get Black Ops on the HD consoles (thereby getting both games on the platforms where they're probably best).

The answer is simple: Wii controls. I don't like dual-analogue, so it doesn't matter to me how much better it looks or what features it has, because it is no fun to control. Black Ops is also much more feature-full than Goldeneye, and it likely has a different style of multiplayer maps.

True enough, I suppose.  I just prefer the version that's probably closer to the experience Treyarch intended.  Plus, I do like dual-analog controls.

[ShyGuy]

I don't like dual analog FPS either. I think with GoldenEye, Black Ops, and Conduit 2 all offering both pointer and dual analog control options, we will see pointer controls vindicated in multiplayer games.

[King of Twitch]

KTLA is all over this, live from Activision's front steps in Santa Monica, holding up a prestige version. They'll have reports of the line at 10pm.

They didn't comment, however, on how the game's eeevil, realistic violence is turning our children into a generation full of mass murderers. Maybe they're saving it for later.

[BranDonk Kong]

Just got back from the midnight launch, I got the 360 version. There was a good 300 people or so in line, and that was just at one GameStop. I've got a feeling that this will probably go down as the highest selling game of all time, as long as you count all of the platforms as one game. Everyone was getting PS3 or 360 though, didn't notice anyone buying the Wii version.

[NWR_insanolord]

A friend of mine bought the game at midnight and is over here playing it on my PS3. Watching it is making me reconsider my decision to pass on this game. Depending on who else here gets it, I may pick up the Wii version and possibly one of those headsets.

[bustin98]

I plan on getting the PS3 version.

[NWR_insanolord]

There's no way I'm playing a multiplatform shooter with that controller. I'm getting used to the Dual Shock layout, but I still don't think I could stomach it in a shooter. I don't really want to get it on 360 either, since I still want to get back into Halo Reach. I want to get on with Stratos and whomever else decides to show up and kick some ass with the best damn FPS controls out there.

[Mop it up]

If Stratos is still insistent on buying this game over Goldeneye, then I'll pick it up eventually, probably sometime around Christmas. I saw Amazon was offering a $20 credit on pre-orders, and I was tempted, but... if only the game came out a week later.

I've got a feeling that this will probably go down as the highest selling game of all time, as long as you count all of the platforms as one game.

In order for that to happen, it would have to sell over 10 million copies more than Modern Warfare 2, which I don't see happening. These games have big launches but the sales practically disappear after a few months. Now, if we're talking most sales in a day or a week or a month, that is possible.

[Stratos]

Yeah, I'm still adamant. I'm convinced all the people going gaga over Goldeneye played little to no Modern Warfare Reflex. It sounds like it has close to the same features to Reflex with a James Bond skin. No voice chat also seals it's doom. I expect the FPSes of 2010 to trump the features of FPSes in 2009. No voice chat = Reflex. I already own Reflex so I may as well keep playing that with all the people crawling out of the woodwork who actually had that game all along. Plus I read you can't choose your character online. Ops lets you customize your own character.

[SixthAngel]

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Yeah, I'm still adamant. I'm convinced all the people going gaga over Goldeneye played little to no Modern Warfare Reflex. It sounds like it has close to the same features to Reflex with a James Bond skin. No voice chat also seals it's doom. I expect the FPSes of 2010 to trump the features of FPSes in 2009. No voice chat = Reflex. I already own Reflex so I may as well keep playing that with all the people crawling out of the woodwork who actually had that game all along. Plus I read you can't choose your character online. Ops lets you customize your own character.

There is a lot more to a game than what you talk about.  Just having differen't weapons or making them handle differently can make a game better or worse.  I would love it if a modern game had the first GE's unrealistic explosions, I loved those things.   A checklist of features isn't how peope judge games as better or worse.  One of my favorite fps games was made fun of because it lacked features other games had.

I won't be touching Black Ops after I played reflex and its horrible single player of running to checkpoints so guys stop infinitely spawning.  I just don't play online much anymore since I typically like single player better and have a huge backlog.

[BlackNMild2k1]

shitty cellphone vids of the Wii version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBYw_-e5dow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP8VioBQCwA

Initial impressions say that the 1st level looks like a PSP game, but the second level looks much better.
The frame rates are pretty damn solid, and the frame dips less than in GE.
and the controls are excellent so far.

[broodwars]

I'm playing the PS3 version of the game, but is anyone finding the Wii version of the game's singleplayer also fairly disjointed and hard to follow?   

[BlackNMild2k1]

A direct feed of the Wii version. Some of this stuff does look PSP level. But atleast the framerate is good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRHN5eU5MYc

Multiplayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiquH6zo--M

Zombies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn69tSARzOI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGt2Q0oMSH0

Here is a better quality vid (intro + 1st level)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2vOb7XMdes
Looks pretty good where it needs to.

[BranDonk Kong]

Ok, it might not be the highest selling game ever, but I bet it does better than MW2, because the install base for all 3 consoles is a lot bigger than it was last year, and because I'm gonna say the Wii version sells a lot more than MWR did, since it's a new game, has voice chat, etc.