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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2010, 08:03:34 PM »
As far as I'm aware it's simply a technical issue. The amount of data the Wii can transfer isn't much compared to other systems, and good-quality voice chat uses a lot of data. This is why data-heavy games like The Conduit and Monster Hunter Tri have such poor voice quality, whereas a simple game like Animal Crossing works fine. So, getting a game to work with voice chat is quite a challenge, because it requires getting the game itself to run using even less resources than what's already available.

Now, text chat, on the other hand, is extremely simple to implement. That's the one where its exclusion is more likely due to being weary of offensive people.

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2010, 08:07:17 PM »
I do remember reading that the reason why the other COD games on the Wii didn't have killcams was because of the Wii's very limited RAM. So I guess it makes sense that this is the reason why Wiispeak isn't included either. Oh well...

I guess you can always call people on your phone and talk to them via that while you play as a makeshift alternative to VOIP.
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2010, 08:43:41 PM »
A lot of people use Skype when they play online Wii games, it's a voice chat program for PCs. I, myself, use AIM with whomever I can. There are probably a couple of other possibilities I'm not thinking of too.

I'm not excusing Wii games for lacking these features, but in my case, it lessens the impact of excluding such features in the games themselves.

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2010, 06:15:24 AM »
Now, text chat, on the other hand, is extremely simple to implement. That's the one where its exclusion is more likely due to being weary of offensive people.

Just got the Monster Hunter route of censoring random words. ;)

Having text chat between matches at the very least would be nice. Then I could talk strategy with my friends before a random match or even talk about if we should switch game modes.
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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2010, 05:41:54 AM »
WiiSpeak/Headbanger support confirmed!
 
 http://wii.ign.com/articles/112/1127089p1.html
 
 They announced a special edition Headbanger Wii headset for CoD Black Ops and this pretty much guarantees voice chat support in-game. I'm going to assume that WiiSpeak will also be functional.

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This limited edition black headset will hit stores in October, prior to Call of Duty: Black Ops' worldwide launch on November 9th, along with the standard white Headbanger Chat Headset for Wii, each with a suggested retail price of $24.99.

...features a noise-cancelling microphone for crystal-clear voice input, high-quality sound via its oversized speaker, an extra large mute button and volume control dial and a 10-foot cord.

Only downside seems to be the fact it is corded. But it is set at a fairly reasonable price.
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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2010, 09:35:16 AM »
I know Treyarch does their best to implement every feature from the other versions of the game onto the Wii edition, so high-five to them. If Nazi Zombies is included, maybe I'll consider buying Black Ops on Wii, 'cause I'm pretty sure it will be cheaper (or at least become cheap sooner) than the PC version.
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2010, 07:22:50 PM »
I'm going to assume that WiiSpeak will also be functional.
You most certainly shouldn't, because Wii Speak works in an entirely different way than the headset.

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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2010, 07:41:19 PM »
The Conduit guys said it was extremely easy to modify their existing WiiSpeak support to work with this headset, so it seems reasonable to assume the reverse would be true as well. It seems crazy to support a voice chat method that hasn't been released yet, but not support the official first party method that's already (to some extent) in place.
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2010, 07:51:49 PM »
It's also extremely easy to include support for USB keyboards and Classic Controllers, yet so few games do. Assumptions are dangerous, it is better to not assume something and have it come true than assume it and have it not be there.
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2010, 08:34:27 PM »
For some reason, im down for Call of Duty Black Ops.
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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 02:23:27 PM »
Has there ever been any screens or footage of the Wii versions?

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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 03:47:24 PM »
Not yet, but they did the same thing with Modern Warfare last year, and World at War.
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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 05:21:33 PM »
For some reason, im down for Call of Duty Black Ops.

Does this have to do with your enjoyment of Reflex? I know my enjoyment of that game is what has me sold on Ops. If Ops is on par with Reflex + voice chat (and hopefully local multi) then its a sale for me.
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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2010, 05:31:03 PM »
I would get this game if it has classic controller support. I bought COD Reflex and I couldn't ever get the hang of playing it with the wiimote so I always ended up getting killed and so I ended up returning it. I also didn't like that Reflex was missing voice chat. I'm glad to see that voice chat is going to be in black ops, but I really do need there to be classic controller support for this.
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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 05:35:57 PM »
Did you like conduit's controls or do you just not like IR FPS controls in general? I didn't like the default setting in Reflex either but I entered the training mode and just tweaked the settings to my liking. Conduit's default was fine for me and 99% of the time I played with the default controls. I kicked a lot of people's tails with the default.  ;D
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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2010, 12:17:54 AM »
Support for the Classic Controller seems doubtful; Goldeneye is the first shooter to ever offer it. Although, the only reason that The Conduit 2 has Classic Controller support is to match Goldeneye, so they might do the same with this game if they feel it'll help it compete. It isn't a difficult thing to include.

Though I'd recommend trying to tweak the Wii Remote controls some more. They can take some time when you are coming from a controller you're used to, but I think they're so much better. I turned the sensitivity up pretty high, because I sit closer to the Sensor Bar than most people do.

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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2010, 12:58:49 AM »
I doubt they're going to do too much to try and compete with GoldenEye in this, considering both games are made by Activision. It still seems fairly stupid that they're releasing two Wii FPSs within a week of each other. That'd be a bad idea even on the 360 with its established shooter audience.
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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2010, 04:46:22 AM »
Here some details about the Wii version of Black ops.

4 player online Zombies co-op
Combat training mode
10 player online multiplayer
Headset support
Classic Controller support as well as highly configurable Wiimote and nunchuk options.
Allies system that lets you add players that you played with without adding their code.
All maps and game modes from other versions included.
text messaging as well as voice chat.
Full storyline mode.Nothing missing from single player.
Ability to do backend patching so the Wii version has patch support.

Also there is this but it is unclear on this from update.

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« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2010, 06:55:50 AM »
Here some details about the Wii version of Black ops.

4 player online Zombies co-op
Combat training mode
10 player online multiplayer
Headset support
Classic Controller support as well as highly configurable Wiimote and nunchuk options.
Allies system that lets you add players that you played with without adding their code.
All maps and game modes from other versions included.
text messaging as well as voice chat.
Full storyline mode.Nothing missing from single player.
Ability to do backend patching so the Wii version has patch support.

Also there is this but it is unclear on this from update.

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ZOMG! Really? That makes me pumped. Ops > Goldeneye confirmed. And I'm going to assume local multi is a go because as you stated: All game modes from other versions included.

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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2010, 07:08:44 AM »
ZOMG! Really? That makes me pumped. Ops > Goldeneye confirmed. And I'm going to assume local multi is a go because as you stated: All game modes from other versions included.

Link?

An interview on the official Call of Duty website confirmed these details.

For a reasonable price, I'd pick up the Wii version of this. Although Modern Warfare 2, almost a year after release is still £39.99 (which, converted, is more than $60) everywhere you look, so god knows how long it will be before Black Ops gets its price cut down to something I'm willing to pay.
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« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2010, 05:37:12 PM »
Still ten players? I wonder why they can't get that up to at least twelve like other Wii shooters, though I'm sure with enough tweaking they could get the eighteen like the other systems.

text messaging as well as voice chat.
I hope this means two things: 1. USB keyboard support 2. The Conduit 2 will have text chat for feature parity.

Although Modern Warfare 2, almost a year after release is still £39.99 (which, converted, is more than $60) everywhere you look, so god knows how long it will be before Black Ops gets its price cut down to something I'm willing to pay.
A really long while. Call of Duty World at War is still $40-50 everywhere. Even Call of Duty 3, if you can find it, isn't cheap.

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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2010, 12:02:26 AM »
SPOILERS, but this is fucking cool.

I assume it'll apply with the Wii version too.
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« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2010, 05:58:07 AM »
I recall that zombies were confirmed for the Wii one. So I'm pretty sure this will be there. Amazing. 'Left for Call of Duty', gave me a L4D vibe, and what a great set of players for a new L4D game.
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Re: Call of Duty Black Ops coming to Wii same day as other systems!
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2010, 06:25:37 PM »
We should probably be concerned that we haven't seen *anything* about this game yet. The Xbox 360 version has already been leaked online, which means that retailers have the game, which likely means they have the Wii (and PS3) versions as well, and we've seen absolutely nothing.
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« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2010, 07:55:12 PM »
We should probably be concerned that we haven't seen *anything* about this game yet. The Xbox 360 version has already been leaked online, which means that retailers have the game, which likely means they have the Wii (and PS3) versions as well, and we've seen absolutely nothing.

We didn't see anymore than this about Modern Warfare Reflex before it launched, and it turned out fantastic.
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