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How do you prefer playing your games?

Only the latest tech will do!  Even the slightest upgrade in visuals or controller makes it better!
1 (8.3%)
The original system, unless the new system provides some major functionality/upgrades.
3 (25%)
Only on the original system - nothing else will do!
1 (8.3%)
I don't care, just gimme the game!
7 (58.3%)

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Voting closed: October 08, 2010, 11:38:34 PM

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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2010, 09:40:37 PM »
I chose all stars because it's the only one I've played.

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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2010, 09:45:37 PM »
I don't get how you can pick the All Stars version over SMA4; SMA4 is the All Stars version except portable and with extra levels. If you'd rather play it on a TV, use a Game Boy Player.
The All Stars version has better graphics and sound, and no character voices. Also, can't you get the extra levels only if you buy e-Reader cards, which are now rare and expensive?

If you have a GBA GameShark/Action Replay, you can download SMA4 Save Files with the extra levels on them - even the ones that weren't released here in the US. :)
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2010, 10:11:21 PM »
That's kind of nice. Though if I were going to go that far, I'd just get the PC version and have the ability to create my own levels.

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2010, 10:13:41 PM »
The difference is that a GameShark/Action Replay is legal, a ROM of the game isn't.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2010, 10:15:54 PM »
Weren't the extra levels on e-Reader cards? That doesn't make them illegal to download?

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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2010, 10:20:54 PM »
I think it's a pretty gray area (and I'm very against downloading of ROMs).

Save files are something user-created - as such, I don't think there's any way Nintendo can claim copyright to them - any more than Microsoft can claim the book you wrote using Microsoft Word is their property.

Since there's no way to separate the World-e part of the save file from the rest of the save file,  I don't think they'd have any kind of legal standing.
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2010, 10:40:07 PM »
Since it is a product that was available for sale, even if it isn't currently, it still seems like stealing. It doesn't seem different than accessing DLC without paying for it, especially if it is the type of DLC that is already contained in the game and you essentially buy a download code.

Legally it might be a gray area, but morally, I don't see a difference between that and downloading ROMs. Either way, you're acquiring a copyrighted product.

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2010, 10:45:24 PM »
Lets say I was going to send you a copy of my SMA3 save file - would you have a problem with that?  It also contains copyrighted product...
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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2010, 09:49:00 PM »
Is there a reason the Wii version isn't an option? The save state is really nice, and the remote feels nice and light.
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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2010, 11:27:52 PM »
I didn't count it since I pretty much considered it the same as the NES version.  I'll keep this in mind for future polls.
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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2010, 11:30:18 PM »
Other than the flash save, it is the same game and it would have been stupid IMO to give it its own poll spot.
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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2010, 11:32:26 PM »
The save state feature is pretty damn significant, though. Without it the original is last by a ton; with it it's still probably last for me, but it's a lot closer.
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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2010, 11:42:21 PM »
Personally, I didn't think the game itself is any different.  It's just the system you play it on.  Should I include a spot for playing the ROM on a PC with an emulator too? :)

But, 'meh... if enough people want to include the VC versions, it's not like there's limited poll space available...
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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2010, 12:25:37 AM »
Yeah, going with all official releases probably isn't a bad idea. You could rename the thread to "Original vs. Re-release vs. Remake" if you felt the desire.

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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2010, 01:10:27 AM »
Poll #1 Results: Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario Bros. 3 - NES    - 6 (27.3%)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (From Super Mario All-Stars) - SNES    - 11 (50%)
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 - GBA    - 5 (22.7%)

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Re: Original vs. Remake - Polling and Discussion
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2010, 01:17:59 AM »
New Poll is up.  This is one of the situations where I'm iffy about listing "all" the releases - Aside from the flash save, the NES, GCN, GBA and Wii versions are - practically - exactly the same.  But we'll see how it goes.

Plus, you get into the icky area with Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt and Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet. ;)

Anywhoo, this'll be the last Mario poll for awhile.  Got a few others lined up that I'd like to run.  I just wanted to use this as a chance to plug the DX version of SMB.  That version rocks.  Ya got the original, most of the Lost Levels, plus all kinds of bonuses - along with You vs. Boo/the first real multi-player Mario vs. Luigi game.  It's almost not even fair to pit those other versions against this one.  If it wasn't for the funky screen ratio of this version, it'd be perfect.
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2010, 01:20:06 AM »
I'm going to go with original again.
The All-Stars version changed the physics, so it plays a bit weird.
The DX version had some cool new features, like finding the five coins in each level. But the smaller screen area really messed me up.

I've got it on VC for free through a recent promotion, I might play it again soon since it has been years...

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« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2010, 01:48:43 AM »
I went with the DX version of Super Mario Bros because of the extra content.
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« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2010, 01:50:38 AM »
I never understood why there was no intro music in the original SMB3. I remember getting my mind and ears blown the first time I played Mario All Stars and heard the intro music. Was there just not enough room on the NES cart?

I'm going with the GBC DX version because it was the version where I first actually beat the game. I could never beat the original. This was partly due to the lack of a save feature but I also sucked at world 8.
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« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2010, 01:51:49 AM »
SMB DX as well. Mostly due to the extra features in the game.
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« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2010, 10:51:38 AM »
Either the All-Stars or Deluxe (the game's name is Super Mario Bros. Deluxe).
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« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2010, 05:02:14 PM »
DX is short hand for Deluxe. I think in Japan the title is actually DX
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« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2010, 05:35:12 PM »
I know that. I just meant that in this case the games name is "Deluxe", whereas with the Link's Awakening it is "DX" (meaning Super Mario Bros. Deluxe and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX).
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« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2010, 12:07:52 AM »
How interesting - with SMB3, there was a pretty clear winner (SMAS getting 50% of the vote.  Currently, three different versions are tied.

If DX Deluxe had been released without the stupid screen/resolution issues, I bet it'd be the run-away winner. :)
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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2010, 12:12:19 AM »
And if Super Mario 64 DS were released on a system with an analog stick it would be the best version of the game, but it wasn't.
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