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Games We Loved 2009
« on: April 14, 2010, 11:37:48 PM »
This is the talkback thread for the Games we Loved: 2009 Feature.


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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 12:30:11 AM »
Is this the replacement for Game of the Year Awards 2009?

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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 12:58:31 AM »
I'd say so. This way is fairer to all the games that aren't Little King's Story or Spirit Tracks.

Surprised that Muramasa didn't get a mention though.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 01:11:15 AM »
There's probably one person on staff who really really really loves Muramasa, but it took at least two nominations to get on this list. I like Muramasa, but it's not nearly one of my favorites from last year.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 01:34:03 AM »
No Deadly Creatures, No House of the Dead Overkill? Two good games.

Glad to see Dead Space Extraction didn't make the list.

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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 02:24:40 AM »
There's probably one person on staff who really really really loves Muramasa, but it took at least two nominations to get on this list. I like Muramasa, but it's not nearly one of my favorites from last year.

I liked the game as well, but not enough to declare it the best of the year.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 03:40:50 AM »
No Deadly Creatures, No House of the Dead Overkill? Two good games.

Lets keep in mind that they had to DECLARE these games to be their BEST/favorite of the year, not  the "boy did I like that one" game of the year.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 09:57:59 AM »
There was a minimum requirement that two staffers put the game in their weighed top-three. After I culled the results I marked the games that met that minimum and did a little additional pruning to keep the feature as balanced as I could between Wii and DS.

I might have cut two games with the minimum but only two submitted for that game, and gave it their three spot. I don't think it was that many, I believe I only did it once, but something is nagging me that there was one I was on the fence about.

I'm not sure if I should release my spreadsheets and workpages I created. I'm leaning to no, because they're pretty unintelligible without understanding what it is I was thinking as I generated them, and I made little notes in the margins regarding the writing for each (eg: "Zach's best write-up", "Neal and Andy very similar write-up  use whoever has less write-ups + Jonny's") .

As for the "awards." This is a replacement, in part because the awards process has too many steps, too much drama, and gets too little writing help.  Usually three-ish people end up doing all the writing.  This system made sure the people who actually cared for the game in question wrote about it, because the "Top 3" submission came in the form of a paragraph, not simply a vote. To write was to vote. While it did spread the writing burden, it also meant that the write-ups were more impassioned. They were, after all, written each game's chief evangelists.

Ideally I wouldn't have been featured at all; I wanted my voice to be heard in the choice of write-ups, the prefaces, the image selection and captions, and the bedrock revision of how we do end of year stuff (in April). However, there were games that I saved from my own "two person minimum" rule because I loved the game.  I think I'm only there twice, which I think is fair. Since I was the only person who knew the counts and that the minimum even existed (nefarious!) I didn't want to abuse that knowledge.

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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 10:02:57 AM »
No Deadly Creatures

I don't even remember that that came out last year, I thought it was older.

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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 11:09:07 AM »
No love for Tiger?  That was easily my 2009 fav.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 11:31:32 AM »
Tiger got plenty of love last year.

Well, most of the year.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 11:35:05 AM »
No Deadly Creatures

I don't even remember that that came out last year, I thought it was older.

Not surprising, it came out in mid-February. I never played it, but it sounded interesting from reviews I read.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 01:38:12 PM »
Good good. Everything is presented very nicely (is it daft that I cracked up at the caption for the Mario & Luigi image?) and the games you all selected are certainly worthy for the most part. It seems similar in a way to past awards features, except everything in the special is a winner. One tiny qualm: not to be really anal or anything, but it's called Little King's Story, James, not Little King Story.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 02:02:01 PM »
Not from memory, but i will have a list at my disposal when we record the podcast tonight. Jon might have it too, but I think I kept him out of the loop in that regard.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 02:09:31 PM »
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All but one of our respondents listed [New Super Mario Bros. Wii] in their top three Wii titles of the year

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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2010, 02:29:08 PM »
In case anyone was wondering, my "edited out" word in the Flipnote discussion was "Dictochat."
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 02:44:20 PM »
I see that both Family Pirate Party and Cocoto Platform Jumper were slighted in this list.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 02:45:32 PM »
I don't have the document at hand to check, but I don't think I put NSMBWii on my Top 3 Wii games. Again, I like it, but it's not one of my favorites from the year.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 02:59:33 PM »
Yeah, it was you Jonny.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 03:04:39 PM »
So Silent Hill, Little King's Story and ... ?  I'm curious to hear the third title that knocked NSMB off your list.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2010, 03:53:03 PM »
Woah!!... wait,

No love for Tiger?  That was easily my 2009 fav.

Tiger got plenty of love last year.

Well, most of the year.

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2010, 05:02:58 PM »
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All but one of our respondents listed [New Super Mario Bros. Wii] in their top three Wii titles of the year

It was Greg, right?  That guy hates fun.

I think you've somehow managed to confuse me with Jon. Incidentally, that hasn't happened to me since I last dressed up as "The Ragin' Cajun" James Carville for Halloween.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2010, 05:48:25 PM »
Wait, what?  No, NSMB Wii was in mine.  Great game.  I don't hate fun, but I do hate Super Mario Galaxy.

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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2010, 03:54:54 PM »
Here's the list I submitted, in its entirety. I was out of the loop on the complete instructions, so if there was a limit of 3 per platform, I didn't know about it or perhaps brazenly ignored that rule.



Jonathan Metts – Best of 2009
 

Wii Games:

Silent Hill: Shattered Memories – This is a noble and arguably successful attempt to revive and reform the survival horror genre. While perhaps not actually scary, it is genuinely disturbing, shocking, and always interesting.

The Beatles: Rock Band – It was a very bad year for music games, but Harmonix still took their franchise to new heights with this partnership. There are no filler bands, and the visuals are actually worth paying attention to. Be sure to try some of Paul's bass lines.

Wii Sports Resort – This is a vastly improved sequel to Wii Sports. Yes, MotionPlus makes it feel different, but the games are also deeper and more diverse. Resort has a lot more single-player appeal, and it's still a great party game.

Excitebots: Trick Racing – You didn't play this game, but you should have. It is unfailingly wacky and consistently fun. There are tons of vehicles to unlock, and the online racing works great.

Little King's Story – The comparison to Pikmin is unavoidable, but this game secretly wants to be an RPG. The sense of progression and discovery is wonderful as you explore this cute, though dangerous, world.
 
 [EDIT: So yeah, this means NSMBWii wasn't even in my Top 5 Wii games of 2009. But I still like it. Despite what some people say, it was a very strong year on both Nintendo systems.]

DS Games:

Retro Game Challenge – Here's a mini-game collection aimed squarely at older gamers, except that some of the segments are more like full games unto themselves. Gems like Guadia Quest and Haggleman 3 could almost stand alone as great purchases, but the collective package is even better.

Henry Hatsworth – This weird mash-up recalls ultra-hard, melee-based action games like the Mega Man Zero series… but with a puzzle game on the bottom. Push on through the nasty bosses to find upgrades that lead to brilliant secret levels.

Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story – Easily Nintendo's best RPG in years, this game cures its predecessor's pacing and balance problems. The sprite animation is some of the best ever seen. Plus, you get a huge dose of Bowser in his most hilarious role yet.

Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars – Its special aura may be diluted with ports to other handhelds, but this surprisingly great GTA still works best on Nintendo DS. It's also way funnier than the latest console edition of the series.
 
 

Download (WiiWare):

NyxQuest – Can you play a challenging 2D platformer while also using the Wii Remote's pointer? Both the charming presentation and ingenious design are subtle, but you will eventually get on board.

Bit.Trip Void – Easily the best game yet in this rapid-fire series, Void adds a lot of complexity and strategy. It's also more forgiving than Beat or Core, without becoming too easy.

Swords & Soldiers – This funny little game proves that you can have interesting, challenging strategy gameplay on a 2D plane. By the time the screen fills with cartoonish characters, you'll be hooked.

LostWinds: Winter of the Melodias – Even if you never played the impressive (but extremely short) original LostWinds, this sequel is well worth trying. It's longer and denser, with good platforming and tons of tricky puzzles. The graphics and sound are also much better than you'd expect from a game that fits on WiiWare.
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Re: Games We Loved 2009
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 04:11:54 PM »
Hmmm...I like this idea, but I can't find my submission in my "sent items" folder. Oh well. For the curious, my picks were.
 
Wii: New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Dead Space: Extraction, and...I forget.
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