Topic: PS3 losing Linux

[NWR_insanolord]

Too many Wii games, including games that Nintendo made themselves and are still manufacturing, use the GC controller ports for Nintendo to even consider removing them.

[Chozo Ghost]

Too many Wii games, including games that Nintendo made themselves and are still manufacturing, use the GC controller ports for Nintendo to even consider removing them.

Really? Could you name some examples? Of the peripherals I've seen Nintendo release (Wii Speak, etc) most either interface via bluetooth or the USB ports on the back. Is there any recent Wii games that require the GC ports or card slots?

[TJ Spyke]

insanolord, there are o Wii games that REQUIRE the GameCube controller ports. There are plenty of games which have the GameCube controller as an option, but no games require it (same with GameCube memory cards).

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I bet there's customers that require it.

[Shaymin]

Most of them can be found here.

[NWR_insanolord]

insanolord, there are o Wii games that REQUIRE the GameCube controller ports. There are plenty of games which have the GameCube controller as an option, but no games require it (same with GameCube memory cards).

I never said they required it, just that they supported it. Brawl was built around it. Nintendo's all about making things easy for people; the small reduction in production cost wouldn't be worth the PR and tech support consequences.

[Chozo Ghost]

Most games that support the GC ports also support the Classic Controller, so you really don't need the ports in order to have classic control.

I've sold off most of my GC collection and don't really play the few games I have anymore, so I won't miss it too much if Nintendo did strip that feature out. I would be pissed though, because it was a feature I paid for being taken away from me, even though I'm not really using it. But I did use it a bit in the early days of the Wii when there weren't much games.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I bet there's customers that require Nintendo GAMECUBE controls and will have nothing less.

[Morari]

Why would anyone want to use the Classic Controller when they could be using a WaveBird? I mean, really. Nintendo's take on the Classic Controller is barely any better than an SNES gamepad. It's not comfortable and having to plug it into the Wii-mote is cumbersome.

[TJ Spyke]

Because the Wave Bird is the same design as the regular GameCube controller, and that controller is TERRIBLE for certain Virtual Console games (the first one that springs to mind is Super Mario World, which is almost unplayable with the GameCube controller. I know that alone got me and others to buy a Classic Controller).

[ThePerm]

it works fine on Super Mario World for GBA Player for gamecube

[Chozo Ghost]

Why would anyone want to use the Classic Controller when they could be using a WaveBird? I mean, really. Nintendo's take on the Classic Controller is barely any better than an SNES gamepad. It's not comfortable and having to plug it into the Wii-mote is cumbersome.

Not everyone can find/afford a Wavebird. They are hard to come by these days and usually cost quite a bit when they are put up for sale. They are essentially a collector's item.

[Morari]

Can't find or afford? I just found dozens on eBay with "Buy It Now" prices of around $20. All it took was a one word search. Nintendo should have provided a better Classic Controller for the Wii. The Wavebird still stands as one of the more comfortable console controllers around.

[TJ Spyke]

People love the SNES controller and that is basically what the Classic Controller is.

[NWR_insanolord]

Nintendo should have provided a better Classic Controller for the Wii.

They did, it's called the Classic Controller Pro.

People love the SNES controller and that is basically what the Classic Controller is.

This may not be all that surprising given some of my previous statements, but I hate the SNES controller. I own a Classic Controller because certain games are practically unplayable without it, but I use the NES style Wiimote or Wavebird whenever it's possible.

[Chozo Ghost]

I may be the minority, but I love the GC controller and its design. I hate the Classic Controller, because its practically a carbon copy of the unimaginative playstation controller. If you look at the new Classic Controller Pro which is black and has the grips it can be very easily be mistaken for a playstation controller. So I hate it and I think Nintendo has sunk to a new low by ripping off Sony when usually its the other way around.

But aside from being a rip-off, the main reason I hate the CC is because the analog sticks are harder to access because the D-pad is where the first stick should be. Its a major pet peeve of mine that the analog stick must be primary and the d-pad must be secondary. The Xbox controller accomplishes this, and so does the Gamecube controller. The playstation controller and the CC controller get it WRONG.

[BlackNMild2k1]

But the PS controller is nothing more than a SNES pad with 2 extra shoulder buttons and two analog sticks. So essentially Nintendo is ripping off themselves.

But it makes sense to make the CC/Pro the same as the Sony consoles because it might entice 3rd parties into making games since they are familiar with the control setup and they've been using it for the past ~15years.

[Caliban]

The CC Pro is awesome in terms of grip, which for me is the most important factor on a controller. It has better grip than any of the other controllers out there, with exception for Virtual Boy's controller which seems to have very similar grips. The grips have to be long enough, and have just enough thickness to be almost perfectly ergonomic, the Xbox 360, the PlayStation, the GameCube, and even the Wii remote fails in that regard. The CC Pro even has a plus, it doesn't have those irritating L3/R3 pushdown buttons.



To be on topic, doesn't the Linux OS boot up separately from the PS3 OS?

[Chozo Ghost]

But the PS controller is nothing more than a SNES pad with 2 extra shoulder buttons and two analog sticks. So essentially Nintendo is ripping off themselves.

But it makes sense to make the CC/Pro the same as the Sony consoles because it might entice 3rd parties into making games since they are familiar with the control setup and they've been using it for the past ~15years.

Both are good points.

But I think the GC is the best traditional controller ever made. It just feels right in my hands, and I love how the A and B buttons are different colors and sizes. It makes it much easier to figure out.

[BlackNMild2k1]

More lawsuits pop up

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1088481p1.html

Two more class action lawsuits have been filed against Sony Computer Entertainment America for removing the 'Other OS' feature from the PlayStation 3.

The first lawsuit, filed on Wednesday, May 5 by Todd Densmore of Cumming, Ga., and Antal Herz of San Francisco, Calif., claim Sony has rendered several PlayStation 3 features they paid for "inoperable" as a result of the release of firmware 3.21. The update, released on April 1, 2010, disabled the ability to install the Linux operating system. By choosing not to update their console, users couldn't access separate, non-related features, such as signing onto PlayStation Network.

[broodwars]

The CC Pro even has a plus, it doesn't have those irritating L3/R3 pushdown buttons.

What's so "irritating" about the L3/R3 analog stick clicks?  Most of the time, you have to be trying to even push those buttons and the only time they've ever been an issue for me has been when companies are stupid enough to map something like the "run" command to the L3 button (so that when you're already trying to dance around enemies, you also have to remember to push the stick in, a major nuisance.  I'm looking at you, Borderlands!).

[Caliban]

Most of the time, you have to be trying to even push those buttons

The L3/R3 buttons on the PS3 controller are too sensitive. With the 360 controller I never had that problem.

What happens is that (in Modern Warfare 2 for example) if I have to move my aim and shoot at the same time in a quick and sudden manner, the R3 will get pressed. It's just how I hold the controller, and since there's no other way to leverage the strength of my grip on the controller the R3 gets smashed... well not smashed, but you get the idea. Instead of killing the opponent I end up dead because  the slow ass long knifing motion is triggered.

Running for L3 isn't so bad because it is just adding speed to your moving direction. I don't like it either much, but it doesn't get in the way as much, or at all.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

You're in luck.  Waggle is just around the corner.

[NWR_insanolord]

My problem with the clicking sticks isn't that I press them accidentally, which hasn't really happened to me; it's that they're really awkward to use most of the time.

[Chozo Ghost]

What happens is that (in Modern Warfare 2 for example) if I have to move my aim and shoot at the same time in a quick and sudden manner, the R3 will get pressed. It's just how I hold the controller, and since there's no other way to leverage the strength of my grip on the controller the R3 gets smashed... well not smashed, but you get the idea. Instead of killing the opponent I end up dead because  the slow ass long knifing motion is triggered.

That same thing happens to me too. I just don't know if I'm hitting it accidentally like you are or if its something instinctive I do whenever an enemy suddenly appears, because that is the thing to do when an enemy is that close... but I have done it too when the enemy is far away so I'm not sure. It is probably accidental.

Running for L3 isn't so bad because it is just adding speed to your moving direction. I don't like it either much, but it doesn't get in the way as much, or at all.

It can cause a problem because when you push L3 down it causes you to sprint, and while you are sprinting you can't fire your guns until you stop sprinting so that creates a delay that is often fatal.