Topic: Nintendo 3DS Discussion

[Pale]

So, Kojima said something about MGS 3DS being able to look better than the PS3 version. Could this be true?! How?!

Pff, these kinds of comments will forever crack me right up.

[Peachylala]

I think we should not take Kojima seriously these days. The guy seriously has a Bipolar condition.

[Kytim89]

I can alomost bet that Dragon Quest 7 and 8 will be ported over to the 3DS considering the financial success of DQ 9 and the fact that the 3DS is a graphical power house on par with the PS2, if not better.

[kraken613]

Just saw this bit of information. I guess it was in the E3 .pdf

"In Animal Crossing, players move out on their own to live a life of ease in a village of walking, talking animals. But this time around, unexpected circumstances suddenly put the player in the role of Mayor in a town they’ve only just arrived in. With the help of the many unique townsfolk and one eager secretary, players will enjoy making their new town a better place for all to live in."

[TJ Spyke]

I remember when that bit of info was announced during E3, most people seem to be happy with the idea of becoming mayor. If I could, I would force every citizen to pay me 1K bells per day.

[Shaymin]

If I became mayor, Tom Nook's head would be hanging from the town's welcome sign as a warning to others.

[SixthAngel]

So, Kojima said something about MGS 3DS being able to look better than the PS3 version. Could this be true?! How?!

Pff, these kinds of comments will forever crack me right up.

Why is 3D not considered part of the game looking good?  When I think of the best looking games I think of typical things like polygons, texture and resolution too but 3D really should be added to the list.

It is possible to say that the 3DS looks better than the PS3 if you consider 3d to be a more important graphical ability than HD or more polys. (Kojima probably wouldn't mean this though).

This is a new factor that some people will see as more important than other graphics upgrades and I see a lot of people in the future getting pissed that some, probably new people, really care about it and others writing it off as completely unimportant while still talking about resolution and textures.

[Kytim89]

THQ is very impressed by the copy right protection that Nintendo has implemented into the 3DS.
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/11/thq-executive-impressed-by-3ds-piracy-protection/

[BlackNMild2k1]

THQ is very impressed by the copy right protection that Nintendo has implemented into the 3DS.
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/11/thq-executive-impressed-by-3ds-piracy-protection/

Your software is not legitimate, 3DS will self destruct in 10 seconds.

[Caliban]

THQ is very impressed by the copy right protection that Nintendo has implemented into the 3DS.
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/11/thq-executive-impressed-by-3ds-piracy-protection/

Your software is not legitimate, 3DS will self destruct in 10 seconds.

I would think that Nintendo would use something like the Hypnotoad to stop 3DS piracy. The moment you turn on that screen you have no chance, and nobody will talk about it because you're hypnotized to not remember you were hypnotized to begin with.

[BlackNMild2k1]

THQ is very impressed by the copy right protection that Nintendo has implemented into the 3DS.
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/11/thq-executive-impressed-by-3ds-piracy-protection/

Your software is not legitimate, 3DS will self destruct in 10 seconds.

I would think that Nintendo would use something like the Hypnotoad to stop 3DS piracy. The moment you turn on that screen you have no chance, and nobody will talk about it because you're hypnotized to not remember you were hypnotized to begin with.

Nintendo will set up a Counterfeit Excahange program at your local Gamestop where you will turn in your 3DS with Pirated software and then legitimately purchase all the software you had previously pirated. Hypnotoad will make sure you have no recollection of the events and everyone is happy.... until the pirate sees his next bank statement.

[Caliban]

LOL, and the bank statement description for the transaction would be PWNED.

[stevey]

THQ is very impressed by the copy right protection that Nintendo has implemented into the 3DS.
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/11/thq-executive-impressed-by-3ds-piracy-protection/

"they combated the piracy on DSi, which they don't believe is cracked yet - but they know they've been hurt across the world and they believe the 3DS has got technology that can stop that."

All they done is block Homebrew. Flash cards were updated in a week to work on the DSi, and I bet the 3DS will be identical. Nintendo needs to find a better company to do their system security...

[Caterkiller]

Awesome info!
 
http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=14181
 

Nintendo's Hideki Konno is one of the chief architects of the company's upcoming 3DS, so don't be surprised if you hear quite a bit from him in the upcoming months. Speaking to Wired, the man who also gave us Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion spoke at length about several of the features the new system will offer.
Firstly, and perhaps most interestingly, comes revelations that Nintendo were working on 3D experiments as far back as last millennium, with prototypes to offer 3D suppor to such games as Luigi's Mansion.
 

"We have been doing these experiments for a very long time, starting from the NES era. We also tried with the Virtual Boy. And even for GameCube, with the development of Luigi’s Mansion, we were thinking of developing a 3-D version of it. However, at that time it was very difficult to realize it as an actual product on the market, because of the resolution of the screen and the separate costs of the console and screen.

 
 

"We have been waiting, going to tech shows and seeing the latest 3-D technology and devices that support those features. We started to have more confidence that this might be a good time to bring 3-D back to Nintendo."

 
Also discussed was the device's 'Tag Mode' - a unique feature which allows users to swap game data regardless of what game they're currently playing. Konno-san elaborated on how the feature would work:
 

"In the hardware, we have the capability that when you first play a game that supports Tag Mode, it will save to a Tag Mode data slot in the hardware system. We are planning to support multiple games at the same time: Mario Kart, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, etc... We’ll prepare a Tag Mode Viewer, where if you look at the viewer you’ll be able to see that, for example you were able to connect with 50 people in Nintendogs and got their data, or got 100 people in Animal Crossing.

 
On the subject of a downloadable service in the same vein as WiiWare and DSiWare, Konno wasn't prepared to make a confirmation, but he did say "like WiiWare and DSiWare there should be downloadable content for this platform."
One titbit that will sure to please fans of motion control, when Konno was quizzed on whether the capabilities of the 3DS' accelerometer could match up to Wii's MotionPlus, the answer was a clear "Yes, the same type of motion sensing is possible."
Finally onto ergonomics, it was confirmed that Nintendo could enlarge the 3D screen on the system without harming the visual effect, opening up the possibility of a 3DS XL down the line. Konno-san also stated that we could take the exterior design of the console we saw at E3 as final.

[TheFleece]

Awesome info!
 
http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=14181
 

Nintendo's Hideki Konno is one of the chief architects of the company's upcoming 3DS, so don't be surprised if you hear quite a bit from him in the upcoming months. Speaking to Wired, the man who also gave us Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion spoke at length about several of the features the new system will offer.
Firstly, and perhaps most interestingly, comes revelations that Nintendo were working on 3D experiments as far back as last millennium, with prototypes to offer 3D suppor to such games as Luigi's Mansion.
 

"We have been doing these experiments for a very long time, starting from the NES era. We also tried with the Virtual Boy. And even for GameCube, with the development of Luigi’s Mansion, we were thinking of developing a 3-D version of it. However, at that time it was very difficult to realize it as an actual product on the market, because of the resolution of the screen and the separate costs of the console and screen.

 
 

"We have been waiting, going to tech shows and seeing the latest 3-D technology and devices that support those features. We started to have more confidence that this might be a good time to bring 3-D back to Nintendo."

 
Also discussed was the device's 'Tag Mode' - a unique feature which allows users to swap game data regardless of what game they're currently playing. Konno-san elaborated on how the feature would work:
 

"In the hardware, we have the capability that when you first play a game that supports Tag Mode, it will save to a Tag Mode data slot in the hardware system. We are planning to support multiple games at the same time: Mario Kart, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, etc... We’ll prepare a Tag Mode Viewer, where if you look at the viewer you’ll be able to see that, for example you were able to connect with 50 people in Nintendogs and got their data, or got 100 people in Animal Crossing.

 
On the subject of a downloadable service in the same vein as WiiWare and DSiWare, Konno wasn't prepared to make a confirmation, but he did say "like WiiWare and DSiWare there should be downloadable content for this platform."
One titbit that will sure to please fans of motion control, when Konno was quizzed on whether the capabilities of the 3DS' accelerometer could match up to Wii's MotionPlus, the answer was a clear "Yes, the same type of motion sensing is possible."
Finally onto ergonomics, it was confirmed that Nintendo could enlarge the 3D screen on the system without harming the visual effect, opening up the possibility of a 3DS XL down the line. Konno-san also stated that we could take the exterior design of the console we saw at E3 as final.

In the full interview with Wired he is asked if the 3DS screen could be made larger and Hideki Konno said that a screen the size of a tv wouldn't work as well because everyone would have to be in the same position, but said the tech was perfect for portables because there's only one position to take. All that means to me is a 3DS XL is coming down the line in 2 or 3 years. Probably sooner.
Also what sort of games could be made for 3DS using MotionPlus? That with 3D effects and all other sorts of bells and whistles seems like too many features for a developer and that they would likely choose one feature over another. I'd hate to see the accelerometer become the microphone feature on the DS.

[Sarail]

Options are fantastic.  Doesn't mean you have to use them all at the same time, though.

Maybe devs will get it in their heads this time that they CAN use one, two, or all if they choose... 3DS sounds like it's loosening up the limitations or restrictions of what a system can allow a dev to do.

I can't wait to see what kind of magic gets created with this thing in the next couple of years.

[TheFleece]

I think options are great too, but when a lot of the DS features have barely been used it makes me feel wary about more options coming. I really hope developers use what they can and I can't wait to hear what they've come up with. Until then I'm picturing people shaking their 3DS around like an Etch-a-Sketch

[Caliban]

In the full interview with Wired he is asked if the 3DS screen could be made larger and Hideki Konno said that a screen the size of a tv wouldn't work as well because everyone would have to be in the same position, but said the tech was perfect for portables because there's only one position to take.

I was listening to one of IGN's podcasts, either Girl Fight or Nintendo Voice Chat, and one of them said that they found a booth that had a company displaying a non-glasses 3DTV that was viewable at multiple angles. The TV makes 9 fields of view, so all you have to do is pick an angle to sit and enjoy.

[Stratos]

In the full interview with Wired he is asked if the 3DS screen could be made larger and Hideki Konno said that a screen the size of a tv wouldn't work as well because everyone would have to be in the same position, but said the tech was perfect for portables because there's only one position to take.

I was listening to one of IGN's podcasts, either Girl Fight or Nintendo Voice Chat, and one of them said that they found a booth that had a company displaying a non-glasses 3DTV that was viewable at multiple angles. The TV makes 9 fields of view, so all you have to do is pick an angle to sit and enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4VidUn-3xA&feature=PlayList&p=18A1E12A681E6362&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=35

The tech has been out there for about a year in different forms. I saw one video where they placed a screen in front of a standard 3DTV and it acted as the glasses. That video specifically said they expected to increase the viewing angles to 64+ within a years time.

[BlackNMild2k1]

In the full interview with Wired he is asked if the 3DS screen could be made larger and Hideki Konno said that a screen the size of a tv wouldn't work as well because everyone would have to be in the same position, but said the tech was perfect for portables because there's only one position to take.

I was listening to one of IGN's podcasts, either Girl Fight or Nintendo Voice Chat, and one of them said that they found a booth that had a company displaying a non-glasses 3DTV that was viewable at multiple angles. The TV makes 9 fields of view, so all you have to do is pick an angle to sit and enjoy.

We've seen a video of that screen as it's been posted in here several times early in the thread.

edit: Looks like Stratos beat me to it.



+details on Tag Mode
+confirmation of gyro/accelorometer
+hint at 3DS XL
+Pokemon having video chat
+new piracy protections

Now all we are waiting on is how much onboard storage is there and how much ram will this beast use.
Nintendo could really be at a turning point here with this new hardware. I really hope they get it right for the gamers & the devs this time.
They have our full attention, 3rd parties are actually excited for it and making games, so they need to not hold back and allow this system to do all that it is capable of.

[TJ Spyke]

Just because they said they could make the screen larger doesn't mean they will. There is a lot they could have done with past systems ad never did.

[BlackNMild2k1]

What I'm really hoping is that they enlarge the size of the top screen to fill out all that empty space a little more.
adjusting the size of the bottom screen too would also be good if it doesn't actually make the system any larger.


edit: Just look at all this wasted space


http://portables.p-nintendo.com/articles/D-812-1.html


Nintendo really need to fill in that top area some more. Push the screen size wise all the way up to the camera and over to the speakers. It would look so much better if the widescreen filled the space more. Maybe make it a 3.8" screen or a 4" screen on top and a 3.25" on the bottom.


edit 2: just make the bottom screen the size of the current 3DS top screen and then make the top screen a 3.8". That shouldn't change the size of the system at all.
Can someone with Photoshop skills make a pic of that please?

[King of Twitch]

Two words: LightWeight +3.00RimlessFrameMagnifyingPresbyopicEyeglasses. They could easily make the 3DS 3x smaller without a difference in screen size.

[Caterkiller]

It doesnt have much to do with 3DS but just to let you know Pokemon Black and White will automaticly exchange friend codes when you connect. It is in some kind of infared mode.

Just thinking this might come into play in the 3DS hardware itself when it comes out.

www.serebii.net

[TJ Spyke]

Not really a big deal, the current Pokemon games give you the option to automatically register someone after you are done interacting with them.