Topic: 360 or Wii? (Not an elitist console war forum, I need your help!)

[NWR_insanolord]

Having played both, I'd definitely take Killzone 2 over Halo 3, and don't forget that the various Calls of Duty are available on both (and in some cases all three).

[Mop it up]

Would he be playing primarily single player or multiplayer games?
If he's more interested in playing games with other people, like his wife-to-be or his friends/family, then the Wii is the way to go. It has a wide variety of multiplayer titles that almost anyone can play and enjoy. The Wii does still have some good single-player games though, such as Super Mario Galaxy and all that. If it is just something that he would play, the XBox 360 would probably be a better choice. It seems to have the largest selection of single-player titles available, even if it lacks in variety, and there is also a nice selection of online games.

[Hero_of_time113]

This could open a whole other can of worms, but I have to ask: why isn't the PS3 being considered?

Firstly, I'd like to thank Pale a ton for letting this stay, and thank EVERYBODY for being so cival and helpful.
Now,  In answer to insanolord, the reason that the PS3 is not in the runnning is the simple fact that ALL of the Groomsmen have wiis (And insane as it sounds, we actually do play online) And half of us have 360s (Myself included) where as none of us, nor any of is other friends that I know of, have PS3s. It's just that dumbly personal.

As to Netflix, I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Wii would be getting it. Thanks for the reminder!

My sister and his Fiance have an interesting relationship when it comes to games. Though she does not tend to play them herself, she DOES often watch him play. So on that note, I see a big pro for both. The 360 is obviously more graphically impressive, though I have no idea how much she would care. And the Wii has games like Zack and Wiki with its much more casual "multiplayer" mode that is actually pretty similar to watching it.

Another factor is the Virtual Console. My Brother is a HUGE Retro-Gamer. 

[BeautifulShy]

Judging by the response you gave I would go with the Wii. There is lots of retro games on the VC and Wiiware is a place to try out new ideas.

I think with the Wii your friends girlfriend will be able to watch and maybe help out with games. Zack and Wiki is a good example of games that can have local multiplayer without having to play against others.

[Hero_of_time113]

Judging by the response you gave I would go with the Wii. There is lots of retro games on the VC and Wiiware is a place to try out new ideas.

I think with the Wii your friends girlfriend will be able to watch and maybe help out with games. Zack and Wiki is a good example of games that can have local multiplayer without having to play against others.

I'm definitely starting to lean that way.

And here's another reason. Somebody mentioned that he must have a PC, and another person mentioned that most PC shooters are released on 360 (Sorry I don't remember who, I rather expected this thread to die before it started, but when I got out of class and checked it, there were tons or replies)
That reminded me that not only does he play a lot of those shooters on the PC (most recently Bioshock) But he and I had a discussion about how he actually much preffers PC shooter control over dual analog. In other words, almost all of the games he would want on 360, he already has access to in a setting he prefers. Where as the wii has the fore-mentioned exclusivity of the first party franchises.

[Chozo Ghost]

I think the RRoD plays a part in your decision.  The Wii is clearly more durable.

I think the Wii is a lousier choice for a hardcore gamer but for someone who just plans to own a few games, its flaws aren't as significant.  So I guess it depends on how interested your brother is.  Is he someone who will want to play the latest greatest titles every month or someone who needs only a game a year or so to satisfy him?

Keep in mind since this is a wedding gift his wife might prefer the Wii.  Does it matter that he plays the console with her?

Make a list of games you figure he would like and see which console has more of them.  That should be the difference maker.

I agree pretty much with what Ian is saying. Also, Netflix will be coming to the Wii at some point, so that should make the Wii an easier choice. However, if the Wii is absolutely out of the question I will have to say that between the PS3 and 360 the PS3 is the more logical choice, mainly because of the RROD issue but also because of MS' NATAL blunder which I predict won't go anywhere, and also with the PS3 you do get a bit more powerful system with blu-ray capability.

So first and foremost I would suggest a Wii because its cheaper, more reliable, has awesome games, and will have Netflix eventually. But if you refuse to go with a Wii then the PS3 is definitely the lesser evil.

[NWR_insanolord]

Having a lot of friends who are active Wii owners, being a big retro game fan, a cheaper price point both initially and long-term with the lack of the cost of Xbox Live, and his already owning a gaming PC all seem to indicate that the Wii is the better choice in this situation. As for questions of the quality and quantity of software, I own all three consoles, and my biggest collection of games is the Wii by far; I own more than twice as many games as either other console. There's definitely a lot of good stuff on the Wii.

[BlackNMild2k1]

and if he has a Wii and a gaming PC, he can experiment with Wiimote controls on his HD PC shooters.

[Morari]

I would always recommend getting a Wii over one of the other consoles. The Wii provides an experience and a load of titles that the PS360 simply doesn't. Get them a Wii for the unique experience. Almost anything on the PS360 that's worth playing is available on the PC.

[Hero_of_time113]

Well. I think that just about decides it. My brother is getting a Wii! Which is not to say that the 360 is inferior (Mine has been on all day, damn Halo) Nor is the PS3.
Thanks everybody so much! I would never have been able to think of all of those pros and cons on my own.

[ShyGuy]

Yay! Now give us a link to a larger version of your avatar.

[BeautifulShy]

Hey no problem Hero of Time.
If your Bro wants some titles for the Wii that might interest him let us know I am sure we can think of titles that go with his interests.

[Hero_of_time113]

Hey no problem Hero of Time.
If your Bro wants some titles for the Wii that might interest him let us know I am sure we can think of titles that go with his interests.

Well on that subject... haha
I'm going to get him Metroid Prime Trilogy, and my extra copy of Twilight Princess. Any other suggestions?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Make sure you goto Walmart and get the WiiSports Resort Bundle($199), then get Red Steel 2(releases tomorrow), Super Mario Galaxy 2(April), New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Rabbids Go Home (for him & the wife to play together)

[BeautifulShy]

Well from my personal library I would suggest these.

New Super Mario Bros Wii. 2D Mario it is what you would expect from a 2D Mario game. It has 4 player local play. So 4 players can play throught the game at the same time.If I remember right it uses the Wii remote on its side(NES style) and I think the Classic controller.

Wii Sports Resort. It uses Motion Plus which makes the controls 1 to 1.Which means that the game tracks the movement of the Wii remote perfectly.

Punch Out!!
Yes there is a Punch Out game on the Wii. It supports the Wii remote and Nunchuck. There is a 2 player mode. There is a second harder round where you fight the same boxers as the first round but beating them is a bit more difficult.

No more heroes and No more Heroes:Despirate Struggle are good titles that use the Wiimote well.

If your bro wants another Shooter to play than The Conduit and Call of Duty:Modern Warfare Reflex are good. I don't have COD:MWR but there are a few people here that do have it and The Conduit measures up to COD:MWR.

Super Smash Bros Brawl and Mario Kart Wii are good games. Brawls online is kinda iffy. It can at times be laggy. Mario Kart Wii has one of the best online experiences on the Wii.

If your Bro wants something a little more core like than Red Steel 2 comes out on the 23rd of March. Motion Plus is required for the game but Motion Plus comes bundled with the game.
It is basically a game were you have a sword and gun and you go through the game basically beating everbody up.

Super Mario Galaxy is another good game but its sequel is coming out in May.

There is lots that I am forgetting so I will post a video series of titles that came out since June 2009 to know in a little bit in this topic.

Also since I am not sure of your Bros taste in games there might be something in my collection that might interest him.

Yeah I would suggest going to Wal-Mart and getting the Wii Sports Resort Bundle like Black N Mild suggested.
That bundle probably has the most value at the moment.

[Hero_of_time113]

What is the wii sports resort bundle exactly? I haven't hear anything about it.

New Super Mario Bros is pretty grandios, I'm working through that one right now.

I might get him Brawl, since that's what the rest of us have been playing online (but yes, it really is laggy. haha)

The Conduit and No More Heroes are both games I've been planning on picking up myself, but haven't gotten to yet.

Now, I'm sure he'll be interested in the Last Story and Arc Rise Fantasia later this year (or maybe next) But are there any notable Wii RPGs out now? I haven't really played any.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Walmart Exclusive Wii Deal
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=3847.msg591530#msg591530

I don't know if they are still selling though.

Wii Console w/ Wii Sports, Wiimote, Nunchuck packed in as usual
+ Wii Sports Resort and Motion Plus bonus included for $199

[Hero_of_time113]

Walmart Exclusive Wii Deal
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=3847.msg591530#msg591530

I don't know if they are still selling though.

Wii Console w/ Wii Sports, Wiimote, Nunchuck packed in as usual
+ Wii Sports Resort and Motion Plus bonus included for $199

Doesn't look like they're still offering it. But thanks anyway!

[BeautifulShy]

RPGs are kinda limited on the Wii but here are a few that I have in my collection.
Tales of Symphonia:Dawn of the New World. This is the sequel to the Gamecube Tales of Symphonia game. In this game you have 2 new characters to play as. The 8 from the GC game are in the game but they don't stick around that often. Since most of the game it is just the 2 characters you can befriend the monsters you fight to fight along side you. You can have 3 monsters total in your party with one of the main fighters or both fighters and 2 monsters.

I'm not sure if one would classify this as a RPG but Little King's Story is another good game. Have you played Pikmin? Well it is like that.
If you haven't played that that you basically have a group of people that do your fighting for you. There is long range fighters and close up fighters and some have specialized tasks.
There is farmers and Carpenters. The main idea of the game is to expand your kingdom into new territory.

Fragile Dreams came out a few days ago. Basically you are by yourself and exploring a world that appears to be just you in the world.

Final Fantasy:The Crystal Bearers is not like a party RPG it is single player. It stars this guy that has telekenisis powers so you can pretty much do what ever you want.
Super Paper Mario is a mix of 2D platforing and RPG battling. It has a nice idea that you can change the enviroment from 2D to 3D at will.
Those are the noteable RPGs.


The VC has a good selection of RPGs though. All of the Phantasy Star games are on there. Paper Mario for the N64. Mario RPG:Legend of the Seven Stars. Secret of Mana.

Hmm for some reason I can't link to the playlist for the Wii games.

Look up "Do U Wii" on youtube and you should find what I am talking about.

[Mop it up]

Three words: Mario Kart Wii. Not only is it a great multiplayer game, but it also has one of the best online components on Wii.

And hey, how about giving your brother a link to this site? 

[ThePerm]

slow burn satisfaction 360

quick burn satisfaction Wii

[D_Average]

If he likes retro games I'd recommend Geometry Wars Galaxies for Wii. You could probably find it for ten bucks now.

[Hero_of_time113]

Three words: Mario Kart Wii. Not only is it a great multiplayer game, but it also has one of the best online components on Wii.

And hey, how about giving your brother a link to this site? 

That's not a bad idea at all. Then we could play online. Also, I totally told him about the site and showed him the podcast.

Thanks Maxi for the list of RPGs, and that Youtube Channel is awesome!

[BeautifulShy]

Hey no problem.
Anything for the Hero of Time.

[Kairon]

Wait, so did the internet manage to actually deliver for once?

You really are a Hero of Time if you accomplished that!