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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2010, 05:15:20 PM »
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Yes sir, what can I do for you? ;D  Why would Nintendo realese something and then walk away from it? Perhaps they believe that they have done all they can with it.

The problem is that Nintendo doesn't release sales numbers for WiiWare or Virtual Console sales, so outside of a couple games whose developers have openly stated have sold very well (World of Goo) we have no idea how things are selling.  There's been speculation for a while now that Virtual Console titles might not sell very well, since Nintendo has focused so much attention on WiiWare since that service launched.  You know Nintendo: if there isn't huge profit to be gained, it's probably not worth pursuing.
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2010, 05:16:52 PM »
Plus they have abandoned things in the past. N64 Disk Drive, E-Card reader, etc. so it wouldn't come as a surprise that they've done it yet again.
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2010, 05:17:35 PM »
Back in the day, everyone had a specialty! Me? I was the guy who emulated Virtual Console games for the Wii! *starts typing* *falls down*

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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2010, 06:14:46 PM »
Nintendo used to say how many total VC had been sold (i.e. "we've sold xx million Virtual Console games since launch"), but I think the last time they did that was in mid-2008.
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2010, 06:19:49 PM »
I am surprised that Chrono Trigger has not been released for the virtual console. I still would not mind seeing Treasure of Rudras on the service.
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« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2010, 06:22:58 PM »
I am surprised that Chrono Trigger has not been released for the virtual console. I still would not mind seeing Treasure of Rudras on the service.

Considering Square-Enix apparently wasn't too thrilled with the game's reception on the DS (at least, according to an old EGM I was skimming the other day), I'm surprised it isn't on the VC yet as well (and I'd buy it again).  Then again, Square-Enix is probably the single most notable hold-out on Virtual Console left, having released very little and no major games (down, you!  The original Final Fantasy has been released so many times on so many platforms it doesn't count anymore!) so far.
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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2010, 06:23:13 PM »
Are you really? SquareEnix ported it to the DS. Why charge $10 when you can charge $35?
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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2010, 06:26:25 PM »
Are you really? SquareEnix ported it to the DS. Why charge $10 when you can charge $35?

seriously. there are so many more remakes to be done that they can't have cheap and easy to access copies just floating around.

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« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2010, 06:27:39 PM »
Are you really? SquareEnix ported it to the DS. Why charge $10 when you can charge $35?

I have met so many people who say, "I do not like the Chrono Trigger DS game, I want it on VC or I already own a copy." What Final Fantasy 6? would any one buy that game? I have the game for the PS1 and had it for the GBA(until it was stolen).
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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2010, 06:28:54 PM »
I am surprised that Chrono Trigger has not been released for the virtual console. I still would not mind seeing Treasure of Rudras on the service.

Considering Square-Enix apparently wasn't too thrilled with the game's reception on the DS (at least, according to an old EGM I was skimming the other day), I'm surprised it isn't on the VC yet as well (and I'd buy it again).  Then again, Square-Enix is probably the single most notable hold-out on Virtual Console left, having released very little and no major games (down, you!  The original Final Fantasy has been released so many times on so many platforms it doesn't count anymore!) so far.

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« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2010, 06:29:40 PM »
Are you really? SquareEnix ported it to the DS. Why charge $10 when you can charge $35?

Observe that we have 2 $10 Phoenix Wright ports on WiiWare right now when their $20+ DS originals are still floating around out there.  Granted, that was Capcom but both companies are known for re-releases.  This is Square-Enix we're talking about: if the DS port didn't sell as much as they'd like, why not try to make a few extra bucks just throwing the original SNES version up on the Virtual Console?  I'm (unfortunately, because it is my favorite game of all time) not seeing signs of Evergreen status in that DS Chrono Trigger port.
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2010, 06:33:02 PM »
But then there is always the DS2 remake and VC sales might eat up into that should they ever choose to make it.

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« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2010, 06:34:57 PM »
But then there is always the DS2 remake and VC sales might eat up into that should they ever choose to make it.

The possibility of a Chrono Trigger remake or sequel(proper) is just as remote as a Rareware game appearing on the virtual console.
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« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2010, 07:33:00 PM »
More import titles will have to be localized and released on the virtual console if Nintendo intends to allow the service to gain momentum again.
I think the reason why Virtual Console titles have slowed is because Nintendo is aiming for an 8-10 year life cycle for the Wii, and they need to stretch out game releases across that time.

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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2010, 08:58:43 PM »
Are you really? SquareEnix ported it to the DS. Why charge $10 when you can charge $35?
First, the game's price point was marked down to $20 eons ago.  Second, they aren't printing any more copies, so SquareEnix has already received all the money they're going to from the DS remake.  Might as well milk it for all it's worth on the VC!
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2010, 03:59:01 AM »
More import titles will have to be localized and released on the virtual console if Nintendo intends to allow the service to gain momentum again.
I think the reason why Virtual Console titles have slowed is because Nintendo is aiming for an 8-10 year life cycle for the Wii, and they need to stretch out game releases across that time.

I still say they couldn't hit the roof of VC releases during that type of life cycle even if they increased the amount of titles per week. The untapped N64 market alone is huge.
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2010, 04:04:43 AM »
All right, I did some math. Assuming there were three games put up on the Virtual Console every week for the next five years, that is 780 games. Nintendo themselves don't have NEARLY that many in their back catalogue to release, and even with the large selection of systems, I doubt that there are that many worthwhile games from eligible third-parties.

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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2010, 10:03:46 AM »
Don't forgot the arcade though, Midway's catagloue alone could add over 50 arcade games (I think over 100. but i'm not sure). Add in the games Europe has but we don't, plus MSX games, other systems that could possibly be added (Intellivision. Colecovision, etc.), and they could have it go on for years.
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« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2010, 02:27:59 PM »
Don't forgot the arcade though, Midway's catagloue alone could add over 50 arcade games (I think over 100. but i'm not sure). Add in the games Europe has but we don't, plus MSX games, other systems that could possibly be added (Intellivision. Colecovision, etc.), and they could have it go on for years.

Do not forget about the Saturn. However, this may be difficult because of the trouble of emulating the software, but they could figure something out in the near future. Here is a list of Saturn games that I would like on the Virtual Console service:
 
Dragon Force
Guardian Heroes
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Burning Rangers
Radiant SilverGun
Hyper Duel
Albert Odyssey
Nights into Dreams
Shining Force 3
Virtua Cop 1 and 2
 
Do not forget about the Square RPG import titles and the various import titles from Japan that have never been released in the states.
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« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2010, 03:23:38 PM »
Saturn is unlikely as the system is well known for being difficult to emulate (hell, developers complained about difficulty making games for it even back in 1995).

As for RPG import titles, we can hope for them. I'm afraid they won't happen though unless Nintendo changes their policies as Hudson Soft confirmed that Nintendo won't allow publishers to translate text for their import titles (and RPG's are of coarse heavy with text).
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« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2010, 03:59:52 PM »
Saturn is unlikely as the system is well known for being difficult to emulate (hell, developers complained about difficulty making games for it even back in 1995).

As for RPG import titles, we can hope for them. I'm afraid they won't happen though unless Nintendo changes their policies as Hudson Soft confirmed that Nintendo won't allow publishers to translate text for their import titles (and RPG's are of coarse heavy with text).

If they got rid of that rule, then the flood gates would open. I guess the Saturn is, in intents and purposes, a zombie console. Technically it is still a viable console because you can find the system and games, but it is a dead system in the sense that no one canreally do anything with it, even today. I wish they could emulate it. But with all the technilogical breakthroughs we have had in the last decade, it would be like they could find a way to emulate it without problem. I have heared that the 360 is the only machine that emulate the device without too many problems. I do not know if that is true, or not.
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2010, 07:18:29 PM »
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Re: Games That Should be on Virtual Console
« Reply #72 on: February 19, 2010, 07:20:51 PM »
I'm sure it's been said, but a Mischief Makers WiiWare remake would be bought :Shake Shake:

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« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2010, 07:22:17 PM »
Was Mischief Makers published by Nintendo? If so, it might actually make it to the Virtual Console.

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« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2010, 07:24:23 PM »
Was Mischief Makers published by Nintendo? If so, it might actually make it to the Virtual Console.
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