Topic: Will Rareware Games Ever Appear on Virtual Console?

[AV]

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Donkey Kong 64 - The only problem here is that part of the game requires you to play and beat Jetpac (which is a Microsoft IP now), Nintendo would have to reprogram the game to remove that and probably replace it with something else. I doubt they consider it worth all the time and money to do that.

Nintendo did do something kinda like that with the original Punch-out! game for the NES. The game used to be called "Mike Tyson's Punch-out!" but then Mike Tyson was convicted of rape, so Nintendo decided to retool the game and so Mike Tyson was dropped from the game, and the boss you fight at the end was renamed Mr. Dream, but I believe still looks exactly the same as Tyson.

So Nintendo could do something like that with DK64, and it would actually be really easy to do because all they need to is change the name of that character and do a little cosmetic changing if necessary, but that should be really simple.

Well Nintendo didn't do that for Virtual Console, they re-released it in the NES and the Virtual Console version is the re-release. Nintendo can do little things like take off wave race sponsors or add pokemon snap save to wii feature, but those are rare occasions. 

Now Microsoft may allow some games since it's pure profit for them. However I'm not sure if Nintendo is really keen on paying a rival company money.

[Chozo Ghost]

Yeah, Nintendo seems to hate to do anything with their old games to improve them in any way. They just want to dump them on the VC as is, and to hell with whatever they could do to make the game better.

Another good example is NES lightgun games like Hogan's Alley where it has two optional modes of play where you can use the light gun, or you can use the NES controller. Since the classic controller can't function as a light gun Nintendo stripped that mode completely out of the game, so know you can only use the crappy NES controller mode to play the game, which is a bunch of crap because the wii remote makes an excellent light gun and could have been retooled to work in that way, but Nintendo didn't want to put $200 worth of effort (or whatever small amount it would have cost) to make that happen, so we ended up with a piece of crap instead.

But meanwhile, like you said they have no problem with stripping things out. But when it comes to making a simple tweak or addition they just refuse..

[Peachylala]

Has it become that bad for Rare though? I don't really pay attention to non-Nintendo news outlets (for good reasons that I will not mention) except forums posts that post them here, so that is news to me.

Quite sad considering they made the best SNES trilogy (Donkey Kong Country) and my favorite FPS games (Goldeneye/Perfect Dark).

[Mop it up]

Didn't Rare make Wizards and Warriors on the NES? That was a fun little platformer back in the day. I remember it offered infinite continues, so it was one of the first games I managed to beat. The music is also really catchy.

[Kytim89]

Rareware games were some of the best and as I said before, Nnitendo fans should not have to worry about gaming politics getting in the way of them enjoying their favorite games on the virtual console.

[TJ Spyke]

Has it become that bad for Rare though? I don't really pay attention to non-Nintendo news outlets (for good reasons that I will not mention) except forums posts that post them here, so that is news to me.

I don't like them (too boring for me), but Viva Pinata and Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise got good reviews.

Choze, you must be thinking of Operation Wolf, Hogan's Alley is not on the VC yet. I don't think we know if it was Nintendo's decision to only allow regular controls in it or if that was Square Enix's decision.

[Kairon]

I want Rock 'N Roll Racing...

[Mop it up]

Rock 'n Roll Racing was made by Rare? I didn't know that.

[Kairon]

Rock 'n Roll Racing was made by Rare? I didn't know that.

Oh wait! NO! BLIZZARD!

GAH!

Mods! Mods! Help me turn back time!!!

[Mop it up]

It's too late. You've now convinced me that Rock 'n Roll Racing was developed by Rare, and I shall spread this misinformation around the Internet in a misguided bout of ignorance until somebody slaps some sense into me.

[BlackNMild2k1]

What did the five fingers say to the face.....?

[Mop it up]

I'm afraid to ask...

[BlackNMild2k1]

[Kairon]

http://nigoro.jp/game/rosecamellia/rosecamellia.php

[Mop it up]

I saw that episode of Mythbusters where that .gif comes from. What I thought was funny was how hilarious Adam found that high-speed shot of himself being slapped to be.

[Kytim89]

Perhaps Nintendo could buy the rights to release the games on virtual console from Microsoft and then sell them back to us, the consumer, at a premium. Let's say about $15 each, I would pay that to have Conker's Bad Fur Day on y wii. However, this is wishful thinking because Nintendo is too chincy to work something out with Microsoft. Ywo wolves fighting over a piece of meat= Nintendo and Microsoft.

[Mop it up]

Who's fighting? Microsoft owns Rare's games now and Nintendo has no interest in pursuing them. They did sell them in the first place, after all.

[Kytim89]

There has to be some glimmer of hope for these games coming to virtual console.

[Chozo Ghost]

I saw that episode of Mythbusters where that .gif comes from. What I thought was funny was how hilarious Adam found that high-speed shot of himself being slapped to be.

I seen that too, and it also made me laugh. The reason it was so funny is that they were both drunk and they were testing myths about ways to recover from being drunk and one of the myths think was about being slapped, and that's where that gif comes from. As they were watching the High-speed of it, Jamie commented that Adam's face looked like it was made out of rubber, lol.

[TJ Spyke]

Who's fighting? Microsoft owns Rare's games now and Nintendo has no interest in pursuing them. They did sell them in the first place, after all.

Nintendo didn't really sell Rare. Microsoft already owned 51% of Rare (which they bought from the Stamper brothers), so Nintendo didn't think it made sense to own 49% of company that is mostly owned by a rival company.

Kytim, it doesn't make financial sense for Nintendo to get Microsoft IP's on their service (nor would Microsoft want to help a rival service). This is especially true for games Nintendo never had ay control over. Rare both developed and published Conker's Bad Fur Day themselves, all Nintendo did was distribute and advertise it (like EA does with the Rock Band games, which are developed by Harmonix/Pi Studios and published by MTV Games).

[Mop it up]

Who's fighting? Microsoft owns Rare's games now and Nintendo has no interest in pursuing them. They did sell them in the first place, after all.

Nintendo didn't really sell Rare. Microsoft already owned 51% of Rare (which they bought from the Stamper brothers), so Nintendo didn't think it made sense to own 49% of company that is mostly owned by a rival company.

Well now you're just splitting hairs.

[NWR_insanolord]

Who's fighting? Microsoft owns Rare's games now and Nintendo has no interest in pursuing them. They did sell them in the first place, after all.

Nintendo didn't really sell Rare. Microsoft already owned 51% of Rare (which they bought from the Stamper brothers), so Nintendo didn't think it made sense to own 49% of company that is mostly owned by a rival company.

Kytim, it doesn't make financial sense for Nintendo to get Microsoft IP's on their service (nor would Microsoft want to help a rival service). This is especially true for games Nintendo never had ay control over. Rare both developed and published Conker's Bad Fur Day themselves, all Nintendo did was distribute and advertise it (like EA does with the Rock Band games, which are developed by Harmonix/Pi Studios and published by MTV Games).

Microsoft was only able to buy the Stamper brothers' 51% of Rare after the Stampers offered it to Nintendo and Nintendo passed on it. Nintendo could have kept Rare if they'd wanted to, but, after seeing what they'd done and what they had in the pipeline, and factoring in that the founders of the company were leaving, they decided to let them go.

[stevey]

Come on, no one wants or has any Killer Instinct love?

[TJ Spyke]

Who's fighting? Microsoft owns Rare's games now and Nintendo has no interest in pursuing them. They did sell them in the first place, after all.

Nintendo didn't really sell Rare. Microsoft already owned 51% of Rare (which they bought from the Stamper brothers), so Nintendo didn't think it made sense to own 49% of company that is mostly owned by a rival company.

Kytim, it doesn't make financial sense for Nintendo to get Microsoft IP's on their service (nor would Microsoft want to help a rival service). This is especially true for games Nintendo never had ay control over. Rare both developed and published Conker's Bad Fur Day themselves, all Nintendo did was distribute and advertise it (like EA does with the Rock Band games, which are developed by Harmonix/Pi Studios and published by MTV Games).

Microsoft was only able to buy the Stamper brothers' 51% of Rare after the Stampers offered it to Nintendo and Nintendo passed on it. Nintendo could have kept Rare if they'd wanted to, but, after seeing what they'd done and what they had in the pipeline, and factoring in that the founders of the company were leaving, they decided to let them go.

And? That doesn't change my point. Nintendo didn't sell Rare because they never owned Rare, they only had a minority stake in the company.

[NWR_insanolord]

Well now you're just splitting hairs.