Topic: Pokemon Black and White

[nickmitch]

NOA tweeted a "Spring 2011" release for Black & White.

EDIT: Serebii.net has info on the legendaries.

[Caterkiller]

The new legendary Pokemon look pretty cool, that white one makes me wonder if we will see new a type like "light".  Let it be weakened to poison for some reason, poison doesn't get much offensive love on the typing chart. Poison corrupts the light... yeah that'l do just fine.

[TJ Spyke]

They look pretty boring to me, I hope those are not the final images of them and that Nintendo will continue changing them.

[Caterkiller]

They look pretty boring to me, I hope those are not the final images of them and that Nintendo will continue changing them.

Of course they are the final images. There has never been a time when a Pokemon was shown off and that wasn't the final design.

[TJ Spyke]

I meant more like them being all white and all black.

[Stratos]

The black one looks like a concept design for Palkia and the white one looks like a...very male pokemon... 

[BeautifulShy]

Well it has been confirmed that both are Dragon types.They might have a secondary type they might not.
Other than that both versions are going to be different that the other.That is that there will be more differences than just exclusive pokemon.

Anybody care to speculate on what those differences might be?

[Shaymin]

As someone who plans to write a FAQ for this game, it'll probably be something like changing up the order badges can be obtained. They love screwing with us.

[Stratos]

Betcha they'll change what pokemon gym leaders and other trainers have in the different versions.

Would be cool if they changed up more trainer lineups based on what starter you chose. Like each major trainer had a pokemon with the type best able to beat your starter. That could throw a wrench in a lot of trainers game since many people give experience preference to their starter and rely on it like a crutch to get through the game.

Having the available option to always fight trainers would be cool as well because I hate leveling up by grass walking. I always wished I could find more trainers to make leveling up happen faster.

[Shaymin]

Just hope they keep the Vs Seeker item. Instant trainer rematches beats the phone call system every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[TJ Spyke]

Yeah, I wish they had kept the Vs. Seeker in HG/SS, at least trainer battles are more often.

[Stratos]

I have yet to get a rematch call. Or did they change how you could tell if they were ready to fight? I thought it would have a little sign by their name if they were ready.

I think they should remove the line of sight matches. Just let you walk up and each trainer gives you the option of a fight or not when you talk to them. You already want to fight them most of the time and it can get annoying when you don't want to fight. And then every 24-hours (or week maybe if you think a day would make it too easy) the trainers reactivate as fight-able.

Also it would be cool if each trainer gave you the option of how the fight would go. Choose doubles or singles, number of pokemon. Also, every trainer (or at least most) should have 6 fight-able pokemon all the time. Who doesn't walk around with less unless you just started or are running a special errand? If you don't want to go through the options menu for every battle you could select an option in the settings menu that pre-sets the same choices every time and lets you skip it.

[Shaymin]

They only are available on a specific day of the week and you have to call them in HG/SS.

[TJ Spyke]

Actually, you DON'T have to call them to get re-matches (the only ones you have to call to get re-matches are gym leaders), I get calls all the time asking for re-matches. If you register everyone you can, it's almost guaranteed that you will get called at least once or twice a day for re-matches (and they will level up their Pokemon over time).

[Stratos]

None of the calls seem to imply that they are ready to fight. I remember in the original that there were non-ready to fight messages and ready to fight messages.

[TJ Spyke]

If they want to fight they will specifically say something like "you up for a re-match? I'll be waiting on Route --".

[Shorty McNostril]

If they want to fight they will specifically say something like "you up for a re-match? I'll be waiting on Route --".

Same here.  I get calls all the time.  Although I think they should all be fighteable all the time (after a small delay anyway).  Also, have a look on your town map.  If there is a trainer waiting for you there will be an ! mark next to the route number. 

[Mop it up]

Anybody care to speculate on what those differences might be?

I'm going to guess one game will be in colour, and the other in black and white.

[BeautifulShy]

Serebii has some scans of new pokemon up on its site. There are some interesting abilitys for the new pokemon. Even a few new types. A Dark/Ground type. I don't think that has been done yet.

Oh the White legendary is a Dragon/Fire type while the Black Legendary is a Dragon/Electric type.

[Shaymin]

Not only is Dark/Ground a new combo, but that new ability it has (translates to "Overconfidence", roughly) which gives it a 1-stage Attack boost EVERY TIME it KOs something... whoamg.

[TJ Spyke]

I saw that info on Bulbapedia (which is much better than Serebii).

The "Overconfident" ability is pretty cool, hopefully Meguroko will be a good enough Pokemon that it can really use that ability.

Pretty interesting that it seems like the starting professor will be female this time, and that random online battles will actually happen.

Mamepato sorta looks like Starly. I guess that will be the standard early level bird Pokemon (like Pidgey, Hoothoot, Tailow, and Starly were).

[Stratos]

Pidgey/otto/ot is still the best early bird there is.

[TJ Spyke]

I wonder what new evolutions/pre-evolutions will be introduced. Every generation has introduced new evolutions/pre-evolutions for existing Pokemon (although generation III only had two: Azurill and Wynaut).

[Stratos]

I know Caterkiller has been wanting a Mankey/Primeape evo.

I wouldn't mind seeing some 4th stage evos come into play. Nothing has ever gone past three.

[Shorty McNostril]

It gets too tedious with leveling and new attacks if there is too many evolutions.  I personally prefer pokemon than don't evolve or only evolve once.