Topic: Nintendo is awesome and you abandoned ship - An editorial

[EasyCure]

Also, the biggest reason Ian brings up his same arguments all the time, is that soooo many people on these boards keep making threads in which they discuss how wonderful Nintendo is.  Both are getting tired in my opinion.

Oh..

Nevermind, this thread is now about Nintendo being neither here nor there.

I'll start off the discussion; Zelda II was so-so. The gameplay while having its fun moments, was also tedious. The soundtrack, while excellent, was also lacking. If I had to rate it on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd probably choose not to.

But if I really had to, it'd be a 5/10. Yep, right in the middle..

Would anyone like to refute this opinion? Actually, I'd advise you to stay neutral..

[vudu]

Nintendo isn't infallible and anyone who says the company is has their head in the sand.

They leave large gaps in the release schedule.  They sent ExciteBots out to die.  They generally ignore VC, WiiWare, and DSiWare and don't promote the services.  They haven't localized key titles that--while of questionable quality--many fans want.  They've seemingly abandoned DS development.  They put out the DSi as a stop-gap to increase sales--and followed it up with the DSi XL less than a year later!  They haven't released a VC service for DSi.  The list goes on and on!

This isn't to say that don't do many, many things right.  The company is responsible for many of my favorite games.  I have never owned a non-Nintendo system.

If people on this board want to discuss the negative aspects of Nintendo they're free to do so (in a civilized manner).  If they'd rather focus on the many positive aspects of Nintendo they can do that, too.  I think most of us are mature enough--and open-minded--do be able to handle both.

And for the record, Zelda II is a solid 7.  It had some really great ideas but the execution left a little too much to be desired.  I played through the game a few years ago for the first time, and while I enjoyed it, I don't have any desire to play it again any time soon.

[EasyCure]

You responded seriously, and against the rules of the thread. Ban hammer?

And for an even better record, Zelda II is easily a 7.5

And for a second, seperate record, I actually agree with this:

Nintendo isn't infallible and anyone who says the company is has their head in the sand.

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If people on this board want to discuss the negative aspects of Nintendo they're free to do so (in a civilized manner).  If they'd rather focus on the many positive aspects of Nintendo they can do that, too.  I think most of us are mature enough--and open-minded--do be able to handle both.

And for the record, Zelda II is a solid 7.  It had some really great ideas but the execution left a little too much to be desired.  I played through the game a few years ago for the first time, and while I enjoyed it, I don't have any desire to play it again any time soon.

I just find more humour in this:

Also, the biggest reason Ian brings up his same arguments all the time, is that soooo many people on these boards keep making threads in which they discuss how wonderful Nintendo is. Both are getting tired in my opinion.

and thus feel poking fun at it is a much better way to spend time on the forum than arguing over and over again that;

-ian is a troll
-ian isn't a troll
-nintendo is great
-nintendo is teh kiddie

etc, etc etc.

[Kairon]

Nintendo isn't infallible and anyone who says the company is has their head in the sand.

Nintendo isn't infallible.

Wait. This is the funhouse right?

...Miyamoto is.

[Peachylala]

They leave large gaps in the release schedule.

They tried to throw many bones to the third excuse makers. They missed it by ten feet or so.

They sent ExciteBots out to die.

Excitebots didn't have monster trucks, futuristic monster trucks. Still was a great game though. Robots looked stupid as hell IMHO. 
[quote[They generally ignore VC, WiiWare, and DSiWare and don't promote the services.
Nintendo of Japan has WiiWare commericals... I think. NoA's VC manager is mostly to blame for the lack of quality VC releases lately.

They haven't localized key titles that--while of questionable quality--many fans want.

While I would love to get my hands on Disaster, Fatal Frame 4 needs to be gutted out and made of less suck. At least we're getting Sin and Punishment 2.

Oh, and Zelda II is a 3.5/5.

[NWR_insanolord]

Would anyone like to refute this opinion? Actually, I'd advise you to stay neutral..

What makes a man turn neutral?

[Mop it up]

You stole my idea, you thieving thief!

Zelda II is an interesting one. Even before Zelda was an established franchise, people complained about its sequel going in a different direction. Yet people also complain when Zelda sequels are too similar. I fear for the new Zelda Wii. It's in a no-win situation for sure. Eh, whatever. Zelda II is one of my favourite NES games and nothing will change that.

As for the topic title, I don't really understand why many longtime Nintendo fans are so desperately angry at Nintendo. They've managed to create new franchises whilst keeping all of their existing ones and even bringing back blasts from the past, and they've expanded the gaming audience to include everyone and are on the fast track to squashing tired stereotypes and making gaming socially acceptable by everyone. Isn't that what we wanted?

[EasyCure]

DISPUTING NINTENDO IS NOT ALLOWED, NEITHER IS PRAISING IT!

[NWR_insanolord]

There's something wrong with the world when EasyCure doesn't even respond to the Futurama reference he obviously set me up for.

[EasyCure]

Hey, i thought your reference was fine on its own. To think I write my post with anyone else in mine was low dude.. Kiff, go lower... lower.. lower... TOO LOW!....... lower

[Caliban]

Zelda II, just for nostalgia 9/10. Sluts.

[NWR_insanolord]

It takes a skilled troll to be neutral and controversial at the same time, but here we go. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 5.5/10. It wasn't really bad, I just never cared enough about it to finish it; it's nothing special.

[EasyCure]

:chaos;

WHATVE YOU DONE

[UltimatePartyBear]

WHATVE YOU DONE

[Invincible Donkey Kong]

Also, the biggest reason Ian brings up his same arguments all the time, is that soooo many people on these boards keep making threads in which they discuss how wonderful Nintendo is.  Both are getting tired in my opinion.

What's really tiring is the self-righteous smugness that permeates through people that think (or pretend) they aren't biased one way or the other.  Even worse when their bias shows through anyway. 

Nintendo isn't infallible and anyone who says the company is has their head in the sand.

More like anyone who says we aren't has their head in the sand.  Quite literally, in fact. 

[EasyCure]

NEW WORLD RECORD!

[Peachylala]

Zelda: Twilight Princess = Nintendo's MGS4.

Kojima could learn a thing or two about not bullshitting after making ****.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Zelda: Twilight Princess = Nintendo's MGS4.

That sounds a little harsh. Shouldn't it be more like
Zelda: Twilight Princess = Nintendo's MGS:Twin Snakes*.

*I couldn't sworn we played this game already but now it looks better.

[Mop it up]

It takes a skilled troll to be neutral and controversial at the same time, but here we go. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 5.5/10. It wasn't really bad, I just never cared enough about it to finish it; it's nothing special.

Don't even joke about that.

[NWR_insanolord]

It takes a skilled troll to be neutral and controversial at the same time, but here we go. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 5.5/10. It wasn't really bad, I just never cared enough about it to finish it; it's nothing special.

Don't even joke about that.

That's actually not a joke; I never cared for that game. Hadn't I mentioned it before? I know I've derailed several threads with my distaste for Super Mario World.

[Mop it up]

I reject your application to be my number one fan.

[BlackNMild2k1]

[NWR_insanolord]

That was just a lie to get you to support Conan.

[Mop it up]

That was just a lie to get you to support Conan.

I can't believe you would do such a thing! I feel so used!

Your application to become my number one nemesis is being considered. If you have anything else to add to it, now would be the time. Who knows, you might someday be right up there with EasyCure if you keep this up.

[NWR_insanolord]

I can't be your number one nemesis; I'm already Lindy's number one nemesis and he'd be mad if you tried to steal me.