Topic: "Green" Game Cases...

[Kairon]

You'd think they could find a way to make a radically new DVD case with similar form factor, but strength where it matters.

Why didn't they use CD-size cases to begin with?

So maybe Sony had things right with the smaller Blu-ray cases? And even before that, the hard-plastic (I mean seriously, sometimes this plastic bordered on actual glass) CD-cases for the PSX. Or wait, maybe those hard-plastic CD cases were worse than today's DVD cases? I haven't held one in a long time, but I can imagine one actually weighing more than a modern day DVD case.

[Mop it up]

So maybe Sony had things right with the smaller Blu-ray cases?

Yep, sounds like it. I don't know if they needed to continue with the plastic "jewel" cases like CDs had; look at DS game cases, I'll bet those are still big enough to securely fit discs.

Companies do care about the environment! You sound like someone who hates companies, and therefore hates capitalism and therefore America. Why don't you move to Thailand or somewhere, where all the software and movies are counterfeit and sold in cd cases?

Nice jumping to conclusions there.

Companies care about one thing only: profit. They just do want they can to get a good public image, so they justify something like this as being "environmentally friendly".

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Protecting the discs inside the cases don't matter when people don't protect the cases.  These cases don't belong anywhere other than a SHELF.  Anything else is misuse.

In your backpack?  Misuse.
In a closet, not on a shelf apparatus?  Misuse.
On a coffee table, not in an upright shelf-standing position?  Misuse.
Bargain bin store pile of games?  Misuse.
In a sack while being transported by a donkey?  Misuse.

This topic really has nothing to do with the quality of the packaging, rather, it highlights how we, as a caring, sensible society, must get rid of defective PEOPLE.

Thank you, that is all.

[Mop it up]

Who gets to dictate what constitutes regular use and misuse? Should that right not be up to the consumer?

[NWR_insanolord]

You know what would be good for the environment and reduce costs without the possibility for damaging the case or disc? Digital distribution.

[Kairon]

In a sack while being transported by a donkey?  Misuse.

This topic really has nothing to do with the quality of the packaging, rather, it highlights how we, as a caring, sensible society, must get rid of defective PEOPLE.

This is why we can't have nice things. T_T

[Kairon]

You know what would be good for the environment and reduce costs without the possibility for damaging the case or disc? Digital distribution.

How come in every situation we've contemplated here, the consumer ends up sacrificing some value or forfeiting some rights?

[Mop it up]

You know what would be good for the environment and reduce costs without the possibility for damaging the case or disc? Digital distribution.

That's a nice way to strip rights from consumers.

I'd be okay with that only if it co-existed with physical games.

[kraken613]

Protecting the discs inside the cases don't matter when people don't protect the cases.  These cases don't belong anywhere other than a SHELF.  Anything else is misuse.

In your backpack?  Misuse.
In a closet, not on a shelf apparatus?  Misuse.
On a coffee table, not in an upright shelf-standing position?  Misuse.
Bargain bin store pile of games?  Misuse.
In a sack while being transported by a donkey?  Misuse.

This topic really has nothing to do with the quality of the packaging, rather, it highlights how we, as a caring, sensible society, must get rid of defective PEOPLE.

Thank you, that is all.

Definition of a case: an often small or portable container for enclosing something, as for carrying or safekeeping

Digital Distribution is AMAZING! Steam is amazing and they have deals all the time then big deals at the end of the year. I haven't bought a physical PC game in almost 2 years.

[BranDonk Kong]

This subject is getting way too much discussion. I'll break it down...
Games now come in cases made with less plastic, and there are cut-out spots as well to cut down on plastic usage. Who fucking cares? Oh, you care. Well, there's nothing you can do about it, short of complaining on the internet...oh, now I get it.

[UncleBob]

This subject is getting way too much discussion. I'll break it down...
Games now come in cases made with less plastic, and there are cut-out spots as well to cut down on plastic usage. Who fucking cares? Oh, you care. Well, there's nothing you can do about it, short of complaining on the internet...oh, now I get it.

The problem is, the GIANT GAPING HOLES in the case are right behind the disc that the case is supposed to protect.  Any idiot could tell you this is a bad idea.  If they wanted to cut down on the packaging/weight, a smaller, Jewel-case-sized DVD case, made from the lighter plastic in slim-line form would have accomplished the same thing - if not more! (the physically smaller case would have allowed six cases to ship in about the same amount of space as two of the older cases) while still providing us with proper protection.

(Ninja edit: This is what I'm talking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320301912424)

These new cases are crap - DVDs have been shipping in them for a little while now and it's not uncommon to open up a box of DVDs to find one or two that have been punctured through the plastic wrap, the plastic liner and the artwork through to the disc.  This is during shipping - it doesn't even account for shelf-wear or use at home.

You think used game come in awful condition now - wait until these cases are main-stream.

[Morari]

Companies do care about the environment! You sound like someone who hates companies, and therefore hates capitalism and therefore America. Why don't you move to Thailand or somewhere, where all the software and movies are counterfeit and sold in cd cases?

Companies care about profits, period. Environmentalism is a fad right now, and thus can bring in profits if companies pretend to enjoy it. Besides, something like this will ultimately cut manufacturing costs anyway, and in turn increase profits. Capitalism is horrid for many reasons, only one of which is the one mentioned above. Thankfully, most of my software and movies are already counterfeit without having to move to Thailand. Though I do hear that the ladyboys there are quite exquisite.

Really though... Why does anyone care about these cases? The DVD case standard is already oversized and cheaply made in comparison to jewels cases or those old Genesis cases. Really people, do you like having shelves and shelves full of ugly game and movies cases sitting around? Buy a few nice disc binders and leave it at that. If you want to show off your shelves, go buy some fucking books already.

[ShyGuy]

I'm going to ignore the bait in Morari's post. Just walking away...

[vudu]

This is a warning.  Don't swing the conversation towards piracy again or there will be bannings.

[Morari]

I'm going to ignore the bait in Morari's post. Just walking away...

You know you like the ladyboys...

This is a warning.  Don't swing the conversation towards piracy again or there will be bannings.

Yeah, better watch out RABicle. Start mentioning piracy a dozen posts ago and see what happens?

[ShyGuy]

Hiya rony1434. Amazingly, as a spambot, you are still not the worst post in this thread.

[NWR_insanolord]

I bought Crystal Bearers today, and after looking at and feeling the case I have to say that I don't understand how this is a big deal. I mean, I understand that the Internet likes to find things to complain about, but things must be going really well these days if this is the worst thing we can come up with.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I bought Crystal Bearers today, and after looking at and feeling the case I have to say that I don't understand how this is a big deal. I mean, I understand that the Internet likes to find things to complain about, but things must be going really well these days if this is the worst thing we can come up with.

I've pretty much said all that needs to be said about it.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30216.msg574470#msg574470

If you're shipping games, then you might have something to worry about, but I noticed it right when I got it, but didn't realize that everyone would make such a big deal about it.

[UncleBob]

I don't think anyone's making a "big deal" out of it.  I haven't read anyone saying they're going to boycott buying games or anything.  I think the general consensus is that it's just plain stupid.  There are better solutions (ones that provide more cost savings and more earth savings) without putting the disc at risk.

[BranDonk Kong]

They should just make the whole disc case out of the black box.

[Shorty McNostril]

The problem is, the GIANT GAPING HOLES in the case are right behind the disc that the case is supposed to protect.  Any idiot could tell you this is a bad idea.  If they wanted to cut down on the packaging/weight, a smaller, Jewel-case-sized DVD case, made from the lighter plastic in slim-line form would have accomplished the same thing - if not more! (the physically smaller case would have allowed six cases to ship in about the same amount of space as two of the older cases) while still providing us with proper protection.

It would work, but many people use DVD racks to store their games, (me included).  If they changed the overall dimensions of the case then you couldn't store them this way. 

I'm sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread, but are these cases coming to DVD movies too?

[BlackNMild2k1]

DVD's have been using them already, Xbox360 and Wii games are new to using them, and no one knows if PS3 will have a casing change since their cases are already smaller than the rest.

[Shorty McNostril]

Ok.  I haven't seen them yet.  Mustn't been released in Australia yet. 

[stevey]

The problems is I want my games to last FOREVER and these cases prevent that.

[Pale]

This argument is definitely overblown and that's because there are so many people like Stevey that have unreasonable expectations about their collections.  Stevey, you only want your games to last as long as you will have interest in keeping them, and I guarantee that is a much shorter time than foever.

I agree though, the fact that one misguided knife/pokey object/etc. could potentially put a scratch in the back of the disc is pretty lame.  It's less a concern for the longevity of a game and more for just receiving a new game in working order.  Collectors will still take care of their stuff, as long as their stuff arrives in good shape.

If you want to save the environment there's only one real way to do it, screw the retailers, force gamers to change, and move to digital distribution.