Topic: Super Mario Galaxy 2

[Stratos]

When I actually think about it, no. There are others I prefer more. But Galaxy 2 looks like it could trounce some of those as well.

[Peachylala]

Do you really think it is better than every other game on Wii?

As Stratos said, no. But considering that 'effort' in a third party excuse game can't come close to Galaxy's quality... yeah.

NSMBWii, however, is currently game of the year until Wii2 launches.

[Dasmos]

Super Mario Galaxy is the best game since Jungle Beat, and Jungle Beat is the best game since Super Mario Word, and Super Mario World is the best game of all-time, so yeah Galaxy trounces everything else on Wii.

[NWR_insanolord]

Super Mario Galaxy is the best game since Jungle Beat, and Jungle Beat is the best game since Super Mario Word, and Super Mario World is the best game of all-time, so yeah Galaxy trounces everything else on Wii.

What he said, except replace Jungle Beat with Ocarina of Time and Super Mario World with Super Mario Bros. 3.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Super Mario Galaxy is the best game since Jungle Beat, and Jungle Beat is the best game since Super Mario Word, and Super Mario World is the best game of all-time, so yeah Galaxy trounces everything else on Wii.

What he said, except replace Jungle Beat with Ocarina of Time and Super Mario World with Super Mario Bros. 3.

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[Stratos]

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[Caterkiller]

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[Ian Sane]

  Do you really think it is better than every other game on Wii? 

Can you name an example of something better?  I think I prefer NSMB Wii but I could go either way.  The best Wii game has to be made by Nintendo for sure.  Is there even anything insulting in suggesting SMG as the best Wii game?  This isn't like some okayish game, it's an outright classic.
 
Since Nintendo has a reputation for changing things up with sequels are they deserving of more criticism in reviews for making a safe sequel than other companies?  You expect this sort of thing with other companies but not so much Nintendo.  Do you judge Nintendo games in relation to other Nintendo games, other Wii games, other current games or all other games outright?  I figure SMG2 will be great but it will get some flack for being too similar.  Is that fair?

[Mop it up]

Can you name an example of something better?

That depends on what you mean by better. I can think of at least a dozen games I've enjoyed more than Super Mario Galaxy, and I really enjoyed Galaxy. If you're talking about production values, there aren't very many games with the polish of Galaxy which come to mind. Big budgets don't automatically equal fun games, though.

Is there even anything insulting in suggesting SMG as the best Wii game?

Not insulting to Galaxy, but I feel that to claim it as the absolute best Wii game is a disservice to many other Wii games. I have a similar problem with naming Zelda: Ocarina of Time as the best N64 game, FF7 as the best PlayStation game, etc.

I figure SMG2 will be great but it will get some flack for being too similar.  Is that fair?

In the context of reviews, any kind of comparison is fair game. That's one thing reviews are for. A better question is, does it matter? Personally, even when I look at games through a critical eye, I judge most games based on their own merits and don't really feel a need to compare.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I'll criticize the game for being too similar, like I said before I'm having trouble getting excited for SMG2 because it does seem like a pretty direct sequel. Better games then SMG? Well this is pure opinion but Twilight Princess is up there, so is SSB: B, Metroid Prime 3, and others.

[Peachylala]

SSBB, MP3 and Batman: AA are on par with Galaxy. Infamous barely edged in there.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Japanese Release date and price from Nintendo Retailer Meeting:

Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii, Nintendo)
- May 27th
- 5,800 yen

[Caterkiller]

Man thats close! Time fly's man!

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Is that some sort of discount, or are 3rd Parties ripping off Japanese consumers compared to that?

Or is Nintendo trying to give Mario some sort of edge over other software?

[Peachylala]

Is Nintendo trying to give Mario some sort of edge over other software?

Nintendo has always had an edge over other software except theirs by not being half-baked crap.

Except Wii Play.

[TJ Spyke]

Is that some sort of discount, or are 3rd Parties ripping off Japanese consumers compared to that?

Or is Nintendo trying to give Mario some sort of edge over other software?

Not really much of a discount, that is about $62. Unlike the rest of the world, game prices in Japan vary quite a lot (even on the same system). This is seems to be a common price since this is also how much Nintendo charged for Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Music, Animal Crossing: City Folk, etc. They do charge more for select games (like Zelda: TP and SSBB), but 5,800 Yen seems to be their standard price for Wii games and has been for years.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Name, Date and Price from Nintendo Retailer Meeting:

Hospital (Wii, Atlus)
- June 17th
- 6,980 yen

Seriously, what are 3rd Parties thinking?  If Nintendo isn't intentionally undercutting them, why do 3rd Parties charge more, especially in this handheld-loving console-dieing country?

[vudu]

Especially considering the game is receiving a budget price of $40 here in America.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Gotta make up for it somewhere.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

After playing so many games with manual camera control, revisiting Galaxy1 was frustrating.

[ThomasO]

http://www.vooks.net/story-19077-New-Mario-Galaxy-2-scan-shows-2D-goodness.html

Some of the story has been revealed.

From Famitsu:

'This is one more stardust fairytale. Only once in a hundred years does  stardust fall on the mushroom kingdom. As such, Peach invites Mario to  the castle to watch. On his way over, Mario spots a mysterious light.  He cautiously approaches it, and finds... a small, lost baby star. The  star - ’Baby Chico’ - follows Mario to the castle, but what is waiting  for them there is...'

'Chico' is the Japanese 'Luma.'

There are scans here, specifically this one, that reveal a new character, Assist Luma, which seems to be the 2P character.

EDIT: The official Japanese website has some new gameplay videos.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/sb4j/action/index.html

Not only have they remixed the SMW main theme, but also its Ghost House theme for the Haunty Halls Galaxy. And Yoshi's flutter kick noise "HMMMRRRRHH" is now more of a whimper.

EDIT: Link fixed.

[Peachylala]

ThomasQ, you linked the wrong page for videos. There is only one page for Mario, right here. Yoshi has one in his action page 3 pages in.

[King of Twitch]

aughhh not the 5 gold star pieces thing again...

[Caterkiller]

Hey so player 2 will actually have a visual character on screen? This might actually make 2 players worth something.

I wouldn't mind playing as a little orange luma from time to time, as long as it felt like I really contributed to the game.

[ThomasO]

Cloud Suit revealed!

http://kotaku.com/5518944/super-mario-galaxy-2-forecast-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-plumbers