Topic: Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver remakes on the way

[TJ Spyke]

You can buy one at the Poketholon Dome on Tuesday, Friday, and Saturday for 2500 points. You can also find one on random Magnemite, Magneton or Steelix.

[Halbred]

Jot your code down here, Stratos. I'm free all night after work (6:00 p.m. Zachlaska time).

[that Baby guy]

Those extra critical attacks have a BP of 70, not 60, so they don't match up quite so well.  He can't learn Megahorn, but he can get U-turn and the Bug-type slash move, both work well for him, so does Pursuit.

[Stratos]

I have to go to a wi-fi spot for now because my friend has his wi-fi set for too high a security to be able to play

[BeautifulShy]

I think Articuno is in the Seafoam Islands...I ran into Moltres (but didn't fight him) in Mt. Silver. Not sure where Zapdos is.

Yeah all of this is correct. Zapdos is over on the side of the Power Plant in Kanto. Power Plant is near Cerulean City. Fly to that city and head east. There will be a pokemon center at the end of Route 9 and you can exchange the Pokemon you want.You need Surf on one of them.Zapdos is out on the side of the power plant.Save the game before you fight Zapdos. Zapdos is level 50.Discharge,Agility,Charge,Ancient Power are its moves.

[TJ Spyke]

So Articuno and Zapdos are in the same spots they were in Red/Blue/Yellow? Moltres couldn't be because it was in the mansion on Cinnabar Island, but the only thing left on that island is a Pokemon Center.

[BeautifulShy]

Yeah pretty much TJ Spike. Also in Red and Blue Moltres was on Victory Road. The only real good things to find in the mansion on Cinabar Island was the secret key, SolarBeam TM, and some notes on Mew. Magmar could be found in the blue version I believe as well.
Moltres is on Mt. Silver in the SS/HG games. You take the left path when you enter. Right path goes to Red.

[TJ Spyke]

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Yeah pretty much TJ Spike. Also in Red and Blue Moltres was on Victory Road.

Whoops, it has been about 6 years since I played the original games.

[BeautifulShy]

Yeah I haven't really played them since 2000. I guess since that was where the fire gym was you thought that that was where Moltres was.

[RABicle]

Trying to train up a swinub to help me take down the 8th gym but it's an exercise in failure. Most helpless little Pokemon.

[Halbred]

Caught Articuno last night after what seemed like an endless battle. I was basically pwning him with my Lv. 72 Venusaur. I had him down to ONE HP and he was asleep. Whenever he woke up, he'd attack, then I'd put him back to sleep.

I used THREE Ethers (on Sleep Powder) and ALL of my Ultra Balls (I had like 21) and several Hyper Potions because Articuno has Ice Beam, which does massive damage Venusaur. I ran out of Ultra Balls. Articuno perpetually escaped, even though he had ONE HP and was ASLEEP continuously. I ran through about half my Great Balls before I caught him.

I hate legendary fights like that. It's like you have to flip ten coins and get all heads, even when the conditions for capture are just right. Next stop, Zapdos.

Anyone know where Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza are hiding?

[TJ Spyke]

Which version do you have? Kyogre is exclusive to HeartGold, Groudon is exclusive to SoulSilver. You will encounter your versions Pokemon in the Embedded Tower. Apparently the battle with Kyogre will have permanent rain during the battle, while the battle with Groudon with clear skies or sunny weather.

Rayquaza is also in Embedded Tower. To encounter him though, you need to have caught one of the above two Pokemon AND have the opposite one, but it HAS to be from HeartGold/SoulSilver (so if you have HeartGold, you need to have caught Kyogre plus have a Groudon from SoulSilver, you can't have a Groudon from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald).

[Halbred]

Embedded Tower?

[nickmitch]

Embedded Tower

[Stratos]

Which version do you have? Kyogre is exclusive to HeartGold, Groudon is exclusive to SoulSilver. You will encounter your versions Pokemon in the Embedded Tower. Apparently the battle with Kyogre will have permanent rain during the battle, while the battle with Groudon with clear skies or sunny weather.

Rayquaza is also in Embedded Tower. To encounter him though, you need to have caught one of the above two Pokemon AND have the opposite one, but it HAS to be from HeartGold/SoulSilver (so if you have HeartGold, you need to have caught Kyogre plus have a Groudon from SoulSilver, you can't have a Groudon from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald).

How the heck are you supposed to get the other one? Who's going to trade with you? I hate legendaries like that.

[TJ Spyke]

I know, that is annoying. If you just want Rayquaza and don't care about catching it in HG/SS, you could just trade one from D/P/PL. You could also have someone let you borrow their legendary so you can get the Jade Orb (which you need to get Rayquaza to appear), and then give it back.

[Halbred]

I caught Kyogre (Lv. 50) last night after some effort. He went down much easier than Articuno, but he still has some annoying tendances. Looks like he has a new attack called "Water Spout" which seems to be an uber-powerful Water move. It even messed up my Feraligatr. The biggest problem is that he's quick to use Aqua Ring when he's not asleep, so even if you get him down to one or two HP, he's gaining HP every time he escapes from the Pokeball, even if he's asleep.

Now I need to trade for Groudon from SoulSilver with somebody! Any takers?

[BeautifulShy]

Water Spout isn't new. Basically the more HP Kyogre has the more powerful it is.As Kyogre loses HP in battle the less powerful it is.

[Halbred]

Caught Zapdos. He was much easier to keep down, as my Lv. 72 Venusaur was basically immune to his attacks. Still, I went through like 30 Pokeballs before he decided to stay in there. Gotta hit up Moltres next, which will suck, because Venusaur doesn't like Fire attacks.

[Shorty McNostril]

Well he doesn't like Ice attacks either but you eventually got your Articuno.  If you can do one you can probably do the other.  Didn't Zapdos use any flying attacks against your Venusaur?  That would have dropped some health. 

Rabicle:

What level is your team at? I had everything at level 40-41 when I fought her.  My team:

Typhlosion
Graveller
Weepinbell
Magneton
Tauros
Poliwhirl

I tried and failed the one time, so I took them all up a few levels each and I taught blizzard to poliwhirl.  (Can buy it from the goldenrod shop)  At first I thought about training up my Jinx and some swinub but they were back at level 20 and I didn't have the patience to double their levels on wild battles. 

Lead with an electric pokemon and one hit KO the Gyarados she will start with.  Then swap him out for something with a good ice attack for the 2 dragonairs, then switch back to the electric for the Kingdra.  Take some max revives in case flatten your ice or electric.  I Only used 2 pokemon when I fought and won the 2nd time.  That is the only battle I've lost in the game thus far. 

[Halbred]

I think all the legendary birds have the same attacks, but differ in their elementals. Zapdos had Charge, Discharge, Agility, and Ancientpower. Articuno had Ice Beam, Agility, Ancientpower, and Reflect.

Going after Moltres today, although I might also start looking for the Legendary Dogs.

According to Serebii, Moltres knows Flamethrower and Air Slash, so Venusaur is going to be in trouble.

[Shorty McNostril]

Thats interesting.  I always thought Zapdos knew drill peck.  Maybe they changed it in the remakes.

[Halbred]

Whoo! Got Moltres today! Didn't take as long, either, 'cause I stocked up on Dusk Balls. He did tear my Venusaur apart, though. Now I have to go after Raiku and Entei.

[Caterkiller]

Man, after years(literaly years) I have a Primeape that I love again. Using the power items to pass on IV's is really helpful. I am actually getting pretty strong Pokemon and quickly. And to think I was almost persuaded into cheating with an R4. NEVER!

Years ago when D/P came out I couldnt wait to battle you guys, but I never did cause I couldn't get over the whole stupid IV system and natures and such. I have come to accept it and boy I can't wait to play you guys! Is Wu Tang Turtle still around?

[Halbred]

I'm still waiting on Stratos to trade my Scyther. I might just borrow my buddy's DS again and trade with my Pearl game.