Topic: nintendo's return to glory

[collingwoodguy]

I hope now that Hiroshi Yamauchi is retired and new young blood is at the helm of the company that Nintendo will once again rise to their former glory and lead the industry with new and innovative games. I love the new Zelda and Metroid games. Mario sunshine was a game that I was looking forward to for a long time that I think came up a bit short, it was a good game, not great. Maybe with a better P.R. department and some more marketing dollars they can shed this monkey off their back.

[Grey Ninja]

Nintendo's former glory is restored in my books.  With the release of Skies of Arcadia and Wind Waker, GameCube has finally eclipsed the SNES in terms of quality.  Nintendo is making the most profit of any next-gen console, and Nintendo fans are certainly happy.

The only thing lacking is popular support from the mainstream audience, but really, who gives a rat's ass if the 12 year old next door doesn't like GameCube?

[TheResidentEvil]

.... Why are there fifty thousand posts like this? Nothing new has been said here, at all. This is pointless.

[cyrus420]

the best thing about pointless threads is that no one can tell you that you're off topic.

yep, stuff with the thingies. has anyone played that one game? yeah the best one. insert some more random crap here.


or maybe here, you decide.

[mac<censored>]

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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
The only thing lacking is popular support from the mainstream audience, but really, who gives a rat's ass if the 12 year old next door doesn't like GameCube?

That sums up my feelings nicely.  However, 3rd party companies do care what all those slightly below-average 12 year-olds think, and I think 3rd party support is a good thing (though maybe Nintendo is one of the few companies that can go it alone if necessary).

[TheResidentEvil]

You know whats also good, like pointless threads? Sex for money.

[collingwoodguy]

All I am trying to say is that they need more of a retail presence. Try going to your local video store and rent a newer gamecube disk or to any videogame shop and ask for the latest releases. There are quite a few games out now for my beloved system (I have apox. 15 so far including the bonus zelda disk) but blockbuster and rogers video have a poor selection of cube games, mostly older ones, and my local video game shop is pretty much pre-order only for gamecube stuff, "It just doesn't sell, I cant stock an item that doesn't move!" is the line that I get. I love the system and dont care what the kid next door thinks either, but if things keep going like this it will only spell trouble. Yes Nintendo might be one of the only console makers that can go at it alone but for how long?

[Toolvana]

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Originally posted by: collingwoodguy
I hope now that Hiroshi Yamauchi is retired and new young blood is at the helm of the company that Nintendo will once again rise to their former glory and lead the industry with new and innovative games. I love the new Zelda and Metroid games. Mario sunshine was a game that I was looking forward to for a long time that I think came up a bit short, it was a good game, not great. Maybe with a better P.R. department and some more marketing dollars they can shed this monkey off their back.

If I didn't know any better, I would say that was cut and pasted from a thread about 6 months ago.

[ThePerm]

WELL I MADE THAT THREAD...but he didnt cut and pastr i dont think..oops caps.

[Mario]

Nah, i prefer green ones. I suppose red apples do have their advantages but green ones are more suited to who i am. And i heard green ones are better for your bones than red ones.

[Infernal Monkey]

Really? Wow.

I've always stayed away from the green apples because the only ones I seem to eat are bloody sour. Red ones are more shiny, too.. Mmm, more chemicals.

=O, wonder if they have the chemicals in a big plant? The it'd be Chemical Plant Zone, and I wave to Sonic and Tails.  

[Michael8983]

The thing to remember is that Nintendo hasn't really lost all that much.
It's basically as big a fish as ever, the pond has just gotten a LOT bigger in recent years and Nintendo is now sharing it with bigger fish than it ever had to in the 80's and early 90's. It went from just facing Sega to facing Sony AND Microsoft!!!
Nintendo "ruled" gaming at a time when gaming was a relatively small market dominated by so called "hardcore" gamers and companies that specialized strictly in gaming. Things have taken a complete 180 since then and now casual gamers are dominating and the market is MUCH larger and being driven by huge companies with reaches far beyond the gaming.

[Beave]

I agree with TheResidentEvil that topics like this one come up frequently, and are maybe pointless. But you need to ask yourself why so many people do post topics like this. IMO they are dissatisfied with the performance on Nintendo.

I am prepared to ramble on now and comment how the power weight has been knocked off by two new comers, athough market experienced companies. I wont because it's probably been discused before and i think nintendo are changing. I hope that they do cater for all audiences which i believe they can but will just take time, maybe not even the next console will change this.

Just remember, kids these days want what's popular. Mix that with great games and Nintendo will be back. They just need to do it before Sony and particually Microsoft make too much impact.

Sorry i couldn't help myself so just some points of what i think.......
- word of mouth is as great advertiser as TV, its just getting the mesage out in the first place.
- Nintendo or developers could buy back old stock, the shelves will be full and the GCN will look popular.(And i will actually be able to find GAMECUBES and GAMES!)
- Make sure those demo stands are on not off! And put in the different games rather then first party
- a new redesigned GCN that looks sleek, just as the GBA was redesigned. (fisherprice and purple = not good)
- Online is a bonus feature and money doensnt need to be made off it. (Someone correct me if there are any great costs invloved)
- One cube powering two TVs instead of split (Not possible yet but was dreaming)
- Do nintendo or there marketers read forums, it's a great source of free market research

I'm not sure if they'll work but at least there's some feedback - male, 20, student, Aussie :-)

[Darc Requiem]

Well Beave you are wrong about on-line gaming. Its is quite expensive to set up and maintain. Nintendo would have to set up a Nationwide network. This is definately easier to do in Japan than in the States. In addition to buying servers for use with the on-line compatiable titles they would have to hire people to maintain the servers. Certain games, such as a MMORPG would acquire additional costs and most strict server updates. It would be difficult to combat cheaters with MMORPG unless they stored all the players data on their servers and thats still no guarantee. Storing all that extra data would mean they would need more servers and more people to maintain them. On-line gaming is not cheap, Nintendo obviously doesn't feel comfortable charging any sort of monthy fee. They no most people wouldn't be inclined to pay it. MS spent a billion on X-box Live and that was to set up a feature that they are losing money on.

Darc Requiem

[nonjagged]

Yamauchi is the reason why Nintendo wasnt purchased by M$
Yamauchi is the reason why Nintendo comfortably has billion$ in the bank made entirely from gaming.
Yamauchi is the reason why Nintendo still remains a 1st Party company and didnt end up the dodo like Sega.
Yamauchi is the reason why Nintendos' franchises arent pirated on CD-ROM like Sega's and Sony's have.

You should be so ashamed for being narrowminded and dont look at the bigger picture towards some of the decisions made by Nintendo which go against mainstream trends for a reason.


2003 = The Year of the Fund Q & Triforce.


PS Yamauch' hasnt retired he plays a diff role now which aint at the top like the past few decades.

[Hemmorrhoid]

WHy do you people get so angry when a PRO Nintendo optimistic threads like this one are created, but in some times we had people posting up to 10 anti-Nintendo is gonna fail and too kiddy threads.
Not that Im a supporter of either extreme, but dont you think its odd people prefer pessimism(spelling/grammar?)

[nonjagged]

Why do people get so angry? who where and what?
Pro-Nintendo optimism? Who where and what?

For starters the poster is implying that new younger blood will instill more mature titles?
Mature titles have been on ever console ever produced. Even Sega CD had mature themes, even SNES had Shadowrun which was created by a cool bunch of developers for the time.

New blood injection will help Nintendo once again rise to the former glory?

These threads are pointless, the come up once per week about Nintendo not advertising enough. These threads are made up of actual Nintendo gameplayer or even fanboys and will possibly never ever reach the mainstream markets that need to have the heads up on the issue.

Opinions are usually expressed on the issues, nothing can ever be done or changed but these Nintendo gameplayers or fanboys need to accept the fact.
Due to Nintendo's stance to maintain a gaming-only console that strictly uses proprietory data format, Nintendo consoles will never ever supass the userbase/sales figures of the mainstreamed entertainment set-top-boxes of the opposition especially and I mean especially when certain opposition will ALWAYS (until the collapse of the console industry) underprice, desperate bundle, mass advertise, saturate, flood, brainwash, the market with their offerings.

to be continued got a call