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Why the Wii will never get any better (Firmware Related)
« on: March 02, 2009, 10:54:10 PM »
Here's an interesting post by one of the top Wii hackers explaining just how horrible of a job Nintendo did in designing the Wii from a firmware perspective and why we're basically stuck with it until at least the next generation.

http://hackmii.com/2009/02/why-the-wii-will-never-get-any-better/
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 11:09:43 PM »
*sigh*

Thanks again, Nintendo, for obsessing about piracy and homebrew.
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 11:20:57 PM »
That's better in a firmware sense, when I first read the title I thought you were going to present a claim that there will never be more good games on the Wii.

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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 11:23:43 PM »
This thread title is sensational.

They just added two new gameplay modes to Call of Duty: World at War on the Wii. I like the fact that the game has added things after release.
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 02:09:29 AM »
Lol, hacking doesn't improve my karting.
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 02:10:18 AM »
nor did have any hand in possibly improving Dead Rising
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 02:10:53 AM »
hacking won't bring Earthbound to Wii
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 02:12:13 AM »
i get real games on discs, and discs don't belong in fridges that have to be cleaned
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 02:14:43 AM »
it's not like the wii's good for things outside of gaming
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 02:17:20 AM »
oh man, i wish gamecube was upgradable so i could Double Dash online
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 02:18:23 AM »
if i were to add a Wii Channel, it'd be the HAWTNESS CHANNEL
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 02:19:47 AM »
i don't think nintendo knows what to do with more channels
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 02:21:42 AM »
the hardcore surround themselves in multimonitors and multiple gfx cards and multivitamin cores, yet concern themselves over a last-gen casual soccer granmda fitness box
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 02:24:01 AM »
adding a DVD or Internet On Demand Video home-encoded pr0n video chanel won't improve Wii's stellar sales
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 02:25:36 AM »
Adding a DVD or Internet On Demand Video home-encoded webblog video channel won't hurt Wii's stellar sales
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2009, 02:27:25 AM »
let's say firmware upgrades are actually successful, Ian's not going to buy more third party games
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2009, 02:30:34 AM »
Wii is in this for the long haul, and will resist good technology as long as PS3 bleeds cash

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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2009, 04:06:12 AM »
I don't find this too surprising, personally. It matches Nintendo's mantra about all of this, and thus doesn't really bother me. Whether the hardware/software prohibited updates of games, Nintendo's own philosophy would've prohibited it anyway.

I suspect that as with their systems in the past, their next system will at least match the offerings of their competitors from the generation past.  So I fully expect a more solid online architecture and a better designed OS (technically speaking not aesthetically). Hopefully they decide to leave out the 360's excellent feature, the RRoD.
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2009, 04:30:08 AM »
If you'll forgive me, but I tried reading that article and still came away unsure about the issues to which he was complaining.

I mean what, games won't get patched, something about firmware, hackers won't be able to install linux on something?  I've read my share of Wii hit pieces this generation, but this one by far is the most confusing.
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2009, 04:38:50 AM »
Aw hell naw now we can't install useless bullshit on the Wii and developers won't be able to patch up their lazy mistakes this is terrible God damn Wii why are you such a video game console go wait in the car.

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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2009, 04:41:13 AM »
*sigh*

Thanks again, Nintendo, for obsessing about piracy and homebrew.

lol yeah Nintendo you big dicks you are such big dicks Nintendo you are the biggest dicks now I cannot install egg timers and such on my Wii where are the games games games Nintendo hurf durf I am angry at you Nintendo you are ruining my freedom to steal video games.

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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2009, 04:46:01 AM »


NINTEEEEENDOOOOOOOO!!!

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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better (Firmware Related)
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2009, 05:40:47 AM »
Modified thread title to talk about firmware.

Can we have a normal discussion without worthless spamming please?  Pro's point could have been made in a single post. I'm not sure Infernal had a point.
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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better (Firmware Related)
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2009, 06:01:34 AM »
But like MegaByte I'm very angry Nintendo does not let me hack the Wii and install egg timers. It's an outrage.

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Re: Why the Wii will never get any better (Firmware Related)
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2009, 07:06:43 AM »
Every time I read an article like this it hammers home my only true beef with the Wii... that the lack of SD support, and in the larger sense, Virtual Console and WiiWare implementation sucks so badly.

To this day, downloadable games are my favorite part of the Wii.  Sure, I'm enjoying their main releases, but my gaming tastes have changed as my free time has shrunk and nostalgic and/or short gaming bursts are what make me the happiest at this point.

I think this really begs the question, were these design choices made intentionally, or is this evidence of a lack of experience at the system level by Nintendo's internal developers?
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