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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2008, 12:33:07 AM »
I shall see to it that Toruresu will never get to fully play another mafia game ever, YOU WILL DIE ON DAY 1 FROM HERE ON OUT!!!! :ph:

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Stop being a jerk.  None of the players did anything wrong.  Everyone's goal is to win, and that's what he did.  The townies were doomed this game, Khush has it right.  There's not much they could have done, and aside from voting out RAB, they did just about everything they could.

Oh, and let's top it off with the fact that even if the godfather died, mafia hits would not be stopped.  I'm sorry decoyman, it was a fun game, but there wasn't balance.  Balanced games typically run long and don't require feats of incredible luck for the townies to win.

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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2008, 12:34:35 AM »
I shall see to it that Toruresu will never get to fully play another mafia game ever, YOU WILL DIE ON DAY 1 FROM HERE ON OUT!!!! :ph:

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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2008, 12:39:53 AM »
I'll tell you what unbalanced this game, thatguy, and it wasn't the roles. It was Khush :P

But actually, there's one tiny tweak I would do if I had to do it all over again. That would be to add the ability for roled townies to win with the townies even if they weren't alive at the end.

That one tiny tweak might have kept Toru from defecting, and would've kept the townies in it.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2008, 12:44:11 AM »
Just give me a day 5, it's not over till the fat lady sings.

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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2008, 12:45:48 AM »
Khush probably true. 

Still, there was an easy Townie win.

3 Mafia left
7 Townies left

10 players.

Today, if there was no betrayal (we know Khush is mafia)  Khush dies and so does a townie.

2 Mafia left
6 Townies left.

Now, lets say DrewMg is still unknown as mafia...so GP which was pretty suspect is known...and lets say all the townies vote for her and DrewMg doesn't  Worse case scenario.  So we lose another Mafia member AND 3 townies.

1 Mafia left
2 Townies left.

Now, the person that didn't vote for GP is probably the last mafia...but say that person DID vote for the GP to hide his identity...he has a risk of being blown up.  But say that doesn't happen. The round up means 4 deaths not three...or.

1 Mafia left
1 Townies left. 

Tie goes to mafia.

Look, the game wasn't easy for the townies to win...but they could have won...specially if they hit GP last.


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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2008, 12:49:50 AM »
Also Khush, Sally's only one person. She can't stop all those roles from happening each night. She has to choose her poison. Well... she did at the beginning, at least.

Plus, I've found out that I play mafia much differently from most of you guys. I keep my cards close to my chest, and don't let anyone but someone I'm totally confident I can trust to know everything about me. As it was, Khush managed to find out all the roles about everyone right away. I don't know how that happened, but I can only imagine that he infiltrated your townie alliance, and there were no safeguards to keep all the secrets from getting out. Since I didn't include a doctor this game, I figured important people would try to keep a lower profile... and vudu did that, along with toru.

Oh, one last thing: you guys should've known khush was the godfather. Way back on Day 1, before anyone knew anything, Khush was claiming to be a townie. In hindsight, only someone who would appear as a townie in an investigation would be so brazen. That should've clued you in that, if he was mafia, he was the godfather.

Anyways, I think we could argue and complain all night... but I really had a ton of fun. It's amazing watching the game from the host's perspective... I didn't get to see a lot of the goings-on, but once in awhile someone would PM me and tell me something interesting... and of course it was fun watching the interactions in the threads, too.

I'm going to work up a story for tomorrow which will hopefully be entertaining enough to let us all forget about the bad feelings. :P
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2008, 12:53:13 AM »
Boy was I left out of the loop.  How did you guys figure out the roles so early in the game?
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2008, 01:00:48 AM »
Well Gylldas I found out about thatguy from you as to Insanolord and toruresu. I am not sure. On day one khushrenada told me to investigate Insanolord or Stevey. I talked to Insanolord at that point and I guessed he might have a role. On day 2 Vudu and Toruresu were the choices I picked Toruresu.Finally on the 3rd day thatguy was my investigation.To find out if he was Pepperment patty.I really didn't talk to many  people through PMs.Khushrenada did most of the footwork.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2008, 01:01:52 AM »
Here's the strategy I came up with for the townies today. I don't see how the mafia could've countered it (well, without talking toru into joining them :P )

The only way for the townies to stay in this game is to protect Schroeder from going over to the mafia. That means they need to vote out Lucy tonight, or play the numbers game and vote Khush out tonight, then Lucy the next night. Whenever they decide to go after Lucy, they'll need to use Schroeder and Pig-pen as their prime voters, as Schroeder is immune, and Pig-pen also has a chance of surviving. That means, there'd still be at least two townies who wouldn't make it. They'll just have to agree to take one for the team.

Day 5, tonight (7-3): Right now, townies are up 7-3 in numbers. So, if they take Khush out tonight with the vote, and the mafia hits a townie, it'd be 6-2, with Sally and Lucy left in the mafia. Actually, thinking about this more... they NEED to take Khush out tonight to get the mafia's voting numbers down so they can take out Lucy the next day.

Day 6 (6-2): the townies NEED to take out Lucy (but I don't even know if they know that GP is Lucy). They also need to count on the fact that Sally will be using her power to negate some person's vote and/or action, and accommodate for that (make sure there's an extra voter, just to make sure). That would mean 4 people - pig-pen, schroeder, townie, townie. Lucy blows up and takes half her voters with her. Let's say Lucy takes out at least 2 (but it might only be 1, honestly, if Pig-pen draws the short stick, and survives). Mafia makes a hit on a townie.

Day 7 (3-1): remaining townies vote out Sally, and win.

Oh, I was assuming that Sally will be blocking Schroeder every night... but if she doesn't for whatever reason, the townies can win some style points by Schroeder using his power to switch Sally's vote to Lucy when the time comes. She may not die from it, but there's a chance. If so, there'd be 4 or 5 townies alive at the end to celebrate. The the "townie best-case-scenario," and most certainly won't happen. :P
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2008, 01:02:27 AM »
Actually, since we're talking about the overpowered mafia, let's discuss that for a moment. This is the first time I've ever been chosen as the godfather for a game (please, hold the applause) and let me tell you, someone else can have it. Whew. Not the responsibilty I needed for the busy week I've had. Still, at least I can hide if investigated and maybe waste a townie investigation. Plus, I can kill whoever I want.

But then I look at my mafia. DrewMG, Maxi, and Golden Phoenix. I could have used another veteran. I mean, I can only hide from suspicion so long before I'm gone. And if I'm gone, who is going to guide them? They are still new at this game. We've got a suicide bomber but that's GP who I've made a big fuss about in the past whenever she is killed. Now I'm just supposed to try and get people to vote for her somehow? The outcry when she dies has been growing every game. I don't think she's ever going to be chosen.

By killing off townies, my goal, like I said, was for an experienced player to be chosen to lead the mafia when I'm dead and gone. Every night, I gave my mafia a primer in mafia advice and tips. Maybe too much info. But I had to educate them fast.

While my goal was to bring in an experienced player through the Great Pumpkin, I also wanted to do so something different. In most mafia games, the skilled players, the good players are killed fast since they are a threat to mafia. Well, I didn't want to do that. I wanted to leave the good players in the game. You see, to be the best, you have to beat the best. Moreover, it would serve my purpose of hiding as a townie if the townie roles kept living. Yes, I wanted to have a mafia victory where the townie roles were all still alive and make it a great crushing. It didn't work that way but maybe that is for the best.

You see, by leaving the good players in, it made it harder to discern who might be mafia since all good players would be a threat. Thus, the townies may start picking themselves apart voting out strong players while my group of weak players lay low and keep to themselves to maintain a low profile. Plus, with the wierd mafia hits, it would keep people guessing as to the true motive of the mafia or why they making these hits.

Of course, my goal is also to spread misinformation and truth so that when I'm gone, what I've said and done will be of no use to the townies. Look at what happened with thatguy thinking Drew and Golden Phoenix were innocent. That was truth. Yet, there were other things I told him that were lies.

When Maxi was being voted out Day 3, I wondered about switching the vote to GP somehow. Then I realized, the most powerful thing about the bomber wasn't the ability to take out numerous players, it was the fear it created in players. This could be used to prevent from ever mountinag a huge bandwagon. But if found out or killed, that fear would be lost. Thus, I stopped talking about GP.

That's another thing. Perhaps if you had voted any other mafia member but Maxi, the townies may have stood a chance. The mafia investigatior was useless at that point. We knew all the roles. But if Sally had been killed or the bomber taken out, heck even if I was removed, things could have become different in the end.

But please, let's not think this was an wasy cruise to a win. I had to instruct my mafia and be the one to face the most danger since it would be hard for them to start approaching townies and getting in allainces or getting information. I had to switch my plan from the Pumpkin Play to the Schroeder Switch with further back-up plans if that failed. And when the Pumpkin Play failed, I had created a dangerous situation by leaving all these experienced players in the game still. Thatguy, Dasmos, Vudu, Nickmitch, Pale, stevey (who's been hounding for my blood all game). Insanolord and Toruresu both had roles so they would have an alibi to join the townie allaince. I worried that the twist might have done us in.

Sure enough, when I left for the night, thatguy finally took the chance to declare me mafia. I was afraid it would happen but not much you can do about that. Then I committed to the Schroeder Switch by killing him off thus ensuring only a Sally death kept Toruresu from becoming mafia. I had hoped to keep thatguy's role nullified and drag him along to the end but I couldn't do it anymore at that point.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2008, 01:02:47 AM »
Decoyman:  After hosting 2 games...I can tell you that hosting is easily the most fun you can have in Mafia...you don't know what everyone is thinking, but you know all the secrets and it is just fun to see plans unfold or get foiled.  And everything comes together and it is just fun.

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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #86 on: October 31, 2008, 01:08:37 AM »
A couple of questions, if someone could clarify:

1) I'm a little unsure if Sally's ability could negate PigPen's.  PigPen's ability isn't so much an ability as it is an intrinsic nature.   He doesn't have to declare he's using it, so does Sally's power really affect Pigpen? 

2) If someone is hit, do they still get a night action?  A few nights ago, I (as Sally) negated thatguy, but he was getting hit by the mafia anyways.  I guess I assumed that if the mafia hits someone, they don't get their night action.

But yeah, as a mafia member (and a relative n00b) it was astonishing to me how quickly Khush put together a picture of the game, and discovered who was playing what roles.  The roles may have been a bit unbalanced, but having Khush as godfather pretty much spelled doom for the townies from Go.
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« Reply #87 on: October 31, 2008, 01:13:13 AM »
Khush probably true. 

Still, there was an easy Townie win.

3 Mafia left
7 Townies left

10 players.

Today, if there was no betrayal (we know Khush is mafia)  Khush dies and so does a townie.

2 Mafia left
6 Townies left.

Now, lets say DrewMg is still unknown as mafia...so GP which was pretty suspect is known...and lets say all the townies vote for her and DrewMg doesn't  Worse case scenario.  So we lose another Mafia member AND 3 townies.

1 Mafia left
2 Townies left.

Now, the person that didn't vote for GP is probably the last mafia...but say that person DID vote for the GP to hide his identity...he has a risk of being blown up.  But say that doesn't happen. The round up means 4 deaths not three...or.

1 Mafia left
1 Townies left. 

Tie goes to mafia.

Look, the game wasn't easy for the townies to win...but they could have won...specially if they hit GP last.



Quick point about this strategy. Believe me, I outlined the next day events carefully in my mind and even let Toruresu know all the mafia members and their roles so he could see for himself that even correctly voting would only provide that miniscule chance of a townie win.

The last mafia member would not vote for GP and risk his death by voting for her. That means you just have to have the mafia member and one townie vote for GP to win the vote against her since no one else will vote with her. Sally must vote with Lucy to force the townies to vote at least 3 members against Lucy to win the vote. And that's provided Sally doesn't block the vote out of one of those people voting, thus forcing a tie with a townie being potentially voted out by random chance. Thus, 4 people would have to vote against Lucy pretty much ensuring 2 townie deaths.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #88 on: October 31, 2008, 01:14:58 AM »
A couple of questions, if someone could clarify:

1) I'm a little unsure if Sally's ability could negate PigPen's.  PigPen's ability isn't so much an ability as it is an intrinsic nature.   He doesn't have to declare he's using it, so does Sally's power really affect Pigpen? 

2) If someone is hit, do they still get a night action?  A few nights ago, I (as Sally) negated thatguy, but he was getting hit by the mafia anyways.  I guess I assumed that if the mafia hits someone, they don't get their night action.

But yeah, as a mafia member (and a relative n00b) it was astonishing to me how quickly Khush put together a picture of the game, and discovered who was playing what roles.  The roles may have been a bit unbalanced, but having Khush as godfather pretty much spelled doom for the townies from Go.

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« Reply #89 on: October 31, 2008, 01:15:45 AM »
Here's the strategy I came up with for the townies today. I don't see how the mafia could've countered it (well, without talking toru into joining them :P )

The only way for the townies to stay in this game is to protect Schroeder from going over to the mafia. That means they need to vote out Lucy tonight, or play the numbers game and vote Khush out tonight, then Lucy the next night. Whenever they decide to go after Lucy, they'll need to use Schroeder and Pig-pen as their prime voters, as Schroeder is immune, and Pig-pen also has a chance of surviving. That means, there'd still be at least two townies who wouldn't make it. They'll just have to agree to take one for the team.

Day 5, tonight (7-3): Right now, townies are up 7-3 in numbers. So, if they take Khush out tonight with the vote, and the mafia hits a townie, it'd be 6-2, with Sally and Lucy left in the mafia. Actually, thinking about this more... they NEED to take Khush out tonight to get the mafia's voting numbers down so they can take out Lucy the next day.

Day 6 (6-2): the townies NEED to take out Lucy (but I don't even know if they know that GP is Lucy). They also need to count on the fact that Sally will be using her power to negate some person's vote and/or action, and accommodate for that (make sure there's an extra voter, just to make sure). That would mean 4 people - pig-pen, schroeder, townie, townie. Lucy blows up and takes half her voters with her. Let's say Lucy takes out at least 2 (but it might only be 1, honestly, if Pig-pen draws the short stick, and survives). Mafia makes a hit on a townie.

Day 7 (3-1): remaining townies vote out Sally, and win.

Oh, I was assuming that Sally will be blocking Schroeder every night... but if she doesn't for whatever reason, the townies can win some style points by Schroeder using his power to switch Sally's vote to Lucy when the time comes. She may not die from it, but there's a chance. If so, there'd be 4 or 5 townies alive at the end to celebrate. The the "townie best-case-scenario," and most certainly won't happen. :P


This was my thinking as well, but it's hard to communicate a plan with people when, 1) You're a townie and you don't know all the roles in the game, 2) Everybody else is listening to louder people and 3) Vudu doesn't reply to your PMs.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #90 on: October 31, 2008, 01:16:24 AM »
Enough talk, start a day 5 and prove you can!
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #91 on: October 31, 2008, 01:17:00 AM »
1) I realized later on that there were lots of clarifications I should've made. Some of them were about passive vs. active abilities, as I've been caling them to myself. For example, Pig-pen's ability was passive – like you said, he didn't have to activate it – it was just always on. So, no, you couldn't cancel that.

2) I thought about this later, and will make it clear in the rules threads if I ever host again. It would depend on the order the action was received. It's been handled that way in previous mafias, and it seems to make sense. Let's take your power out of the equation. Khush sent in the hit on thatguy on the same day that thatguy sent in a hit on Khush. So, who kills who? To me, it was whoever got the action in earlier. So, if thatguy had sent in the hit first, he would've killed Khush. However, with my rules about the hit and how it's carried out, thatguy would've been hit also by a remaining mafia member. So, since Khush actually sent in the hit on thatguy first, thatguy would die first. I think it makes sense that way.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #92 on: October 31, 2008, 01:17:11 AM »
2) If someone is hit, do they still get a night action?  A few nights ago, I (as Sally) negated thatguy, but he was getting hit by the mafia anyways.  I guess I assumed that if the mafia hits someone, they don't get their night action.

There's no really fair way to determine which night action came first, so both players still get a night action.
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« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2008, 01:19:03 AM »
2) I thought about this later, and will make it clear in the rules threads if I ever host again. It would depend on the order the action was received. It's been handled that way in previous mafias, and it seems to make sense. Let's take your power out of the equation. Khush sent in the hit on thatguy on the same day that thatguy sent in a hit on Khush. So, who kills who? To me, it was whoever got the action in earlier. So, if thatguy had sent in the hit first, he would've killed Khush. However, with my rules about the hit and how it's carried out, thatguy would've been hit also by a remaining mafia member. So, since Khush actually sent in the hit on thatguy first, thatguy would die first. I think it makes sense that way.

The only fair way is that they both die. I thought that's how it was always done.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2008, 01:20:33 AM »
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2008, 01:22:07 AM »
I never go by the time an action was sent in. Either Aussie players get a huge advantage or a huge disadvantage. What about Plugabugz or other European players? The time difference means they won't be on right away to send in a night action first or fastest.


I still say that if a person is killed in the day vote, they lose their night actions. Otherwise all actions carry through. So, if I sent a hit on thatguy and thatguy sent a hit on me, we both die.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2008, 01:23:17 AM »
So does this mean I actually lived THE WHOLE GAME. OMG OMG. ::celebrates:: :o
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #97 on: October 31, 2008, 01:25:11 AM »
2) I thought about this later, and will make it clear in the rules threads if I ever host again. It would depend on the order the action was received. It's been handled that way in previous mafias, and it seems to make sense. Let's take your power out of the equation. Khush sent in the hit on thatguy on the same day that thatguy sent in a hit on Khush. So, who kills who? To me, it was whoever got the action in earlier. So, if thatguy had sent in the hit first, he would've killed Khush. However, with my rules about the hit and how it's carried out, thatguy would've been hit also by a remaining mafia member. So, since Khush actually sent in the hit on thatguy first, thatguy would die first. I think it makes sense that way.

The only fair way is that they both die. I thought that's how it was always done.

Hmm... I'm pretty sure I've been in mafia games with hits carried out the way I described. But I don't know, Khush has a point – maybe I'd do it the other way in a future game. This was my first game hosting, and although I tried to cover my bases, it seems bizarre situations still crept up on me. :P
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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #98 on: October 31, 2008, 01:26:50 AM »
2) I thought about this later, and will make it clear in the rules threads if I ever host again. It would depend on the order the action was received. It's been handled that way in previous mafias, and it seems to make sense. Let's take your power out of the equation. Khush sent in the hit on thatguy on the same day that thatguy sent in a hit on Khush. So, who kills who? To me, it was whoever got the action in earlier. So, if thatguy had sent in the hit first, he would've killed Khush. However, with my rules about the hit and how it's carried out, thatguy would've been hit also by a remaining mafia member. So, since Khush actually sent in the hit on thatguy first, thatguy would die first. I think it makes sense that way.

The only fair way is that they both die. I thought that's how it was always done.

Hmm... I'm pretty sure I've been in mafia games with hits carried out the way I described. But I don't know, Khush has a point – maybe I'd do it the other way in a future game. This was my first game hosting, and although I tried to cover my bases, it seems bizarre situations still crept up on me. :P

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Re: Mafia XXIX: "It's the Great Pumpkin (Mafia), Charlie Brown" Day 4
« Reply #99 on: October 31, 2008, 01:37:49 AM »
Yeah, I was caught off gaurd my first time hosting as well. I suddenly found myself asking how do night actions take priority? After your first hosting, you are better prepared for future games.

Another reason why I abhor night actions based on time received is a dirty little secret of mine. I played a mafia game on Animecyberat's first forum. It was a gong show for many reasons. The primary reason being that he based who got their hit through first. Never did want to admit that I played there after that game but I think Vudu is the only person around who'd remember that game so I can admit it now.
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