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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 04:22:37 AM »
Now where's he going to get his deep literacy content?

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 08:20:41 AM »
This doesn't go nearly far enough...

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 09:02:29 AM »
I don't even know why he step his foot in there in the first place. That place is retarded.

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 11:38:33 AM »
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 12:05:46 PM »
Didn't he have a membership at PlanetGamecube at one time?

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 12:08:22 PM »
Maybe he left when Billy left.
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 02:02:42 PM »
Didn't he have a membership at PlanetGamecube at one time?

Perhaps  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2008, 02:19:28 PM »
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 02:34:51 PM »
Stopped posting signing in right after Twin Snakes came out? What a heartless wench
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2008, 02:39:30 PM »
Hey Ty are you going to do a solidarity perma-ban of Dyack to support GAF?

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2008, 07:32:49 PM »
He'll probably just post with his account.
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 04:05:41 AM »
So wait, wait...Did this really happen? Did Dennis Dyack actually get banned from NeoGAF?

If so...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHHA!!!

With Luc Bernard quitting gaming because of fanboy trolls it proves that we can scare game developers away if they mess with us XD .
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2008, 04:21:13 AM »
The hardcore get hardnosed.

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2008, 05:56:29 AM »
signed Gretchen?

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 03:40:02 PM »
That fake letter from Minus World is so pathetic.  Aside from being not funny, they didn't even do their research.  His wife's name is Joanna.

And yeah, Denis used to post here.  Maybe he'll come back now that he can't go to GAF.  What would you all think if the next SK game was announced for Wii and Denis started to post on NWR's forums?

I've been friends with Denis for a long time (we have a standing agreement to play Too Human together, and I know for a fact that he is playing his own game even after the reviews), but he did a lot of provoking at GAF and ultimately did a disservice to his game and all the other people who worked on it.  The tale of Too Human's development is dripping with his mistakes.
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 11:21:14 PM »
What would you all think if the next SK game was announced for Wii and Denis started to post on NWR's forums?

I'd love for any developer to come hear and show that our little voices are heard. HOTD Overkill and The Conduit are good examples of listening to the crowd.

I like what I've read from Denis. I've enjoyed Legacy of Kain, ED, and Metal Gear TS. I don't agree with his stance on a 'one console' future, but seeing how I'm not in the industry I only have as much say in the matter as what is in my wallet.

I believe though that game makers can tell interesting stories on the Wii, and have compelling art direction, and provide graphics that are clean. I'd like to think that Denis sees the potential of the Wii and is looking forward to announcing Eternal Darkness II next year exclusively for the Wii. Because story telling and gameplay do not rely on a cutting edge graphics engine.

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 01:09:50 AM »
It's too late for SK to start on a Wii game, next gen starts in just over 3 years
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 02:23:01 AM »
You mean the gen after next gen starts in ~8 years.

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 12:13:32 PM »
Still, too late.
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2008, 12:31:02 AM »
Ouch. Poor Dennis. :(

I don't care if Too Human was about nothing but stepping on kittens: Eternal Darkness was so much awesome that I'd forgive him just about anything.

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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2008, 12:52:35 AM »
That fake letter from Minus World is so pathetic.  Aside from being not funny, they didn't even do their research.  His wife's name is Joanna.

And yeah, Denis used to post here.  Maybe he'll come back now that he can't go to GAF.  What would you all think if the next SK game was announced for Wii and Denis started to post on NWR's forums?

I've been friends with Denis for a long time (we have a standing agreement to play Too Human together, and I know for a fact that he is playing his own game even after the reviews), but he did a lot of provoking at GAF and ultimately did a disservice to his game and all the other people who worked on it.  The tale of Too Human's development is dripping with his mistakes.

I remember the days in which he used to post on the IGN boards. He would come in bring updates regarding Eternal Darkness, ask for opinions and ideas and I thought it was pretty cool of him.

I honestly admire developers who take the time from their busy schedule to come and talk to fans and offer their thoughts on the game.

However, what both Dyack and Luc Bernard did wrong was challenge your potential customers step down to their level.

The reality of the situation is that many gaming forums are filled with immature pricks who do nothing but troll, and believe that when a developer visits their community they have the right to insult him or her to hell and back.

Both men did the mistake of challenging them back. If they aren't contributing to the discussion and are there to gain attention ignore them. In fact, the minute someone says "F*ck you, Dyack!" ignore it. Challenging them is stepping down to their level and you lose a lot of respect points for it.

Regarding criticism, though, they should pay attention. Its understandable that they have been working on a game for years and feel immense pride and love for it. However, you sometimes must swallow your pride and admit there's something wrong and that you are willing to change it. Accept what people are saying and keep that in mind when making the game. Saying there's nothing wrong just makes you look arrogant. It may be their game but WE are the ones that decide if its worth playing.

As cliche as it may sound humility, honesty and maturity go a long way, especially if you are talking to your customers.

I personally don't feel bad for Dyack. Yes, I loved Eternal Darkness and MGS Twin Snakes, and think Silicon Knights is a talented studio. However, they need stuff like this to make them realize who they are working for and set their priorities straight.

This has marred Dyack greatly. Even if his studio creates a masterpiece worthy of praise people will remember the "Too Human"/NeoGAF fiasco and don't give him the respect he deserves.
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2008, 02:47:11 AM »
Oh, I think SK will be just fine if their next game is awesome AND if Denis takes more care in how he promotes it.
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Re: HEADLINE: Dyack banned from GAF for being terrible at making games
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2008, 02:53:26 AM »
Oh, I think SK will be just fine if their next game is awesome AND if Denis takes more care in how he promotes it.

Yeah, but its hard to forget things on the internet :p .

But I do agree that if Dyack learns anything from all of this then it should be no problem.
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