Topic: Why Nintendo Hasn't Abandoned the Hardcore

[NWR_Lindy]

I look at Nintendo like I do Pixar.  Pixar is a brilliant company, they make great product, and I totally respect what they do.  However, do I want Pixar movies to be the only movies I can purchase for my DVD collection?  Hell no!

All I'm asking for is Nintendo to actually put some EFFORT into something other than casual games.  Making Mario 10 or Zelda 15 or Fire Emblem 6 isn't effort to me, but rather the Madden-izing of those franchises.  "Give them the same thing year after year, we barely have to tweak the formula and they'll still buy it!"  Thanks, Big N.

[vudu]

I've given Nintendo hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for their product.  In return, they give me games that I'm not remotely interested in.

Actually, Nintendo gave you the games and consoles you purchased for "hundreds upon hundreds of dollars".  The company's obligation to you ended after the warranty period for your purchases expired.

If you want to continue to give Nintendo money, be my guest.  If they come out with a game that interests you, by all means buy it.  But don't whine about games that you aren't paying for.

OFF-TOPIC:  Silks, I'd really like to see a blog post by you about recent Nintendo games that you do like and future games that excite you.  Answer this question:  why do you still work at NWR when you don't like Nintendo games anymore?

[D_Average]

I've given Nintendo hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for their product.  In return, they give me games that I'm not remotely interested in.

Actually, Nintendo gave you the games and consoles you purchased for "hundreds upon hundreds of dollars".  The company's obligation to you ended after the warranty period for your purchases expired.

If you want to continue to give Nintendo money, be my guest.  If they come out with a game that interests you, by all means buy it.  But don't whine about games that you aren't paying for.

I disagree.  Purchasing a console is a major purchase, its basically a membership or subscription fee.  Nobody purchases a console for the mere console itself, but they purchase it in the hopes they'll have many great games to spend additional $$$ on.

[vudu]

I disagree.  Purchasing a console is a major purchase, its basically a membership or subscription fee.  Nobody purchases a console for the mere console itself, but they purchase it in the hopes they'll have many great games to spend additional $$$ on.

When he says "hundreds upon hundreds of dollars" I think it's obvious he's referring to his long history of purchasing video games, not just the Wii.

Besides, considering he spent 2.5 times as much on his PS3 than he did on his Wii, it's a moot point unless he owns 2.5 times as many PS3 games (more, if you consider the fact that PS3 games cost 20% more than Wii games).

[D_Average]

I disagree.  Purchasing a console is a major purchase, its basically a membership or subscription fee.  Nobody purchases a console for the mere console itself, but they purchase it in the hopes they'll have many great games to spend additional $$$ on.

When he says "hundreds upon hundreds of dollars" I think it's obvious he's referring to his long history of purchasing video games, not just the Wii.

Besides, considering he spent 2.5 times as much on his PS3 than he did on his Wii, it's a moot point unless he owns 2.5 times as many PS3 games (more, if you consider the fact that PS3 games cost 20% more than Wii games).

Either way, a company should deliver great games should you invest in their console.  I think we can all agree that those who picked up the Virtual Boy day one got screwed, even this nice little lady.

[DAaaMan64]

I've beaten two of the 11 games on it. I think thats my best ratio of beaten/number available

[vudu]

Consoles aren't investments.

Also, Silks probably already owns more Wii games than most Wii owners will during the entire life of the system.

[Ian Sane]

Of course consoles are investments.  You buy it under the assumption it will have a steady release of games you like.  When buying a console that's something a smart shopper takes into account.

No court would rule that Nintendo owes you anything for owning a Wii but from the perspective of anyone who actually knows about videogames it's pretty cut and dry.  You buy the console you assume there will be worthwhile games for it for a couple of years.

A computer is the same type of investment.  It's just that these days it's not so risky as there aren't a dozen different formats that you hope will remain supported.

Besides when anyone evers says that Nintendo owes them something they obviously mean from a non-legal perspective.  Just because you and Nintendo don't have a contract doesn't mean you can't complain if they suddenly neglect you.  While it is certainly not illegal for a company to turn its back on its fan that doesn't make it okay.  My best friend could also one day just snub me and kick me to the curb despite over ten years of friendship.  He would still be a jerk for doing so.  Ditto Nintendo.

[D_Average]

Of course consoles are investments.  You buy it under the assumption it will have a steady release of games you like.  When buying a console that's something a smart shopper takes into account.

No court would rule that Nintendo owes you anything for owning a Wii but from the perspective of anyone who actually knows about videogames it's pretty cut and dry.  You buy the console you assume there will be worthwhile games for it for a couple of years.

A computer is the same type of investment.  It's just that these days it's not so risky as there aren't a dozen different formats that you hope will remain supported.

Besides when anyone evers says that Nintendo owes them something they obviously mean from a non-legal perspective.  Just because you and Nintendo don't have a contract doesn't mean you can't complain if they suddenly neglect you.  While it is certainly not illegal for a company to turn its back on its fan that doesn't make it okay.  My best friend could also one day just snub me and kick me to the curb despite over ten years of friendship.  He would still be a jerk for doing so.  Ditto Nintendo.

Exactly!

[NWR_Lindy]

OFF-TOPIC:  Silks, I'd really like to see a blog post by you about recent Nintendo games that you do like and future games that excite you.  Answer this question:  why do you still work at NWR when you don't like Nintendo games anymore?

OK, you got it.  I'll crank this out when I have some time.

And I actually have 19 Wii games.

[GoldenPhoenix]

OFF-TOPIC:  Silks, I'd really like to see a blog post by you about recent Nintendo games that you do like and future games that excite you.  Answer this question:  why do you still work at NWR when you don't like Nintendo games anymore?

OK, you got it.  I'll crank this out when I have some time.

And I actually have 19 Wii games.

I have over double the games you have for Wii, so Me > You. I'll be interested in reading this blog post when it debuts in 2010.

[NWR_Lindy]

[I have over double the games you have for Wii, so Me > You. I'll be interested in reading this blog post when it debuts in 2010.

Sweet Jesus, you have 40 Wii games?  I bet you can take about 20 of those and make your own little play fort of mediocrity.

[GoldenPhoenix]

[I have over double the games you have for Wii, so Me > You. I'll be interested in reading this blog post when it debuts in 2010.

Sweet Jesus, you have 40 Wii games?  I bet you can take about 20 of those and make your own little play fort of mediocrity.

Bug Island > You

[D_Average]

OFF-TOPIC:  Silks, I'd really like to see a blog post by you about recent Nintendo games that you do like and future games that excite you.  Answer this question:  why do you still work at NWR when you don't like Nintendo games anymore?

OK, you got it.  I'll crank this out when I have some time.

And I actually have 19 Wii games.

I have over double the games you have for Wii, so Me > You. I'll be interested in reading this blog post when it debuts in 2010.

Something tells me you're one of the 3 people who bought "Balls of Fury".

[NWR_insanolord]

40 Wii games isn't that crazy, if I had the money to buy every Wii game I wanted I'd have over 40.

[GoldenPhoenix]

It is kind of funny I actually have 52 Wii games and around 20-25 360 games and like 3 PS3 games.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

In other words you people are out of touch with the others who evaluate a thing called "value"?

[KDR_11k]

I think in the end it's still the buyer's fault. AFAIK Nintendo didn't promise anything we didn't get (yeah, sure, E3 reveals but you don't buy reveals anyway, you buy games when they come out). Don't go complaining because you went in expecting stuff you had no reasonable cause to expect (lol Kid Icarus sequel), perhaps you should have waited until the things you wanted are actually available instead of going for a platform with no games you like and a strategy that doesn't involve doing much to acommodate you.

[Plugabugz]

In other words you people are out of touch with the others who evaluate a thing called "value"?

These people have proved that the credit crunch is a myth.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

In other words you people are out of touch with the others who evaluate a thing called "value"?

These people have proved that the credit crunch is a myth.

Where can I get this breakfast cereal?

[Plugabugz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcuVUwh-T-8

[KnowsNothing]

Nintendo will never completely satisfy me until I get anohter Pilotwings game.  Until that point, I will continue believe that Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore.

[Ian Sane]

Couple posts late but 40 Wii games?!  I have over 40 SNES games but no other system I own could I even imagine owning so many.  Keep in mind that those SNES games cover a period of about six years and not the less than two the Wii has and that most of these games I bought ten years after they came out for less than ten bucks each.  I can't think of ANY console where in this short amount of time I could have 40 games and be happy with all of them.  No wonder these "Nintendo has abandoned core gamers" arguments don't make you guys blink, your standards are so low you don't relate.

And then someone has 52?!  FIFTY F*CKING TWO?!!

[UltimatePartyBear]

The only reason I don't have more SNES games than I do is because my parents had to pay for them.  These days I can buy every game I want.  I don't know how old you are, Ian, but personally I can't compare my game library from my childhood to my current one and make any kind of value judgement.  I'm sure other people here are in the same position.

[D_Average]

I have 14 games.  The only one I don't have which I want is Boom Blox.